Portfolio Advice for Artists - Draftsmen S1E09 - Proko
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Date: 2022-03-14
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vfxartds
Reverse image search: ain't got time for that.
An extension of the portfolio/presence talk: would you lads ever consider a podcast on convention/conference set-ups? SP, your experience in this realm is different than most, but.
On the heels of Lightbox, others over the summer. Artists face a lot of the same decisions, but the presentation is changed up. Thoughts on what you notice in the tightly packed, crowded, huckster; -) environments? Even the highest end- thinking Lightbox Expo, IlluxCon, Spectrum Live, such and what. What grabs your attention? What drives you away? How does navigating a crowd add or take from your energy/enthusiasm?
I don't know how many art directors/folks looking to hire wander the alleys (ahem, but it has to happen. Folks also need to work out managing a defined space (layout/spread/banners, the real name/company name/online name debate, should you be working diligently on pieces at your table or constantly ready to engage attendees, how to partake in panels and other offerings while maintaining a table presence, and the logistics/minutiae, etc etc etc. and do it all to stand apart from folks who, in some cases, are all 'A' Game level and can likely elevator pitch well, especially when pitching 'themselves'.
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Reverse image search: ain't got time for that.
An extension of the portfolio/presence talk: would you lads ever consider a podcast on convention/conference set-ups? SP, your experience in this realm is different than most, but.
On the heels of Lightbox, others over the summer. Artists face a lot of the same decisions, but the presentation is changed up. Thoughts on what you notice in the tightly packed, crowded, huckster; -) environments? Even the highest end- thinking Lightbox Expo, IlluxCon, Spectrum Live, such and what. What grabs your attention? What drives you away? How does navigating a crowd add or take from your energy/enthusiasm?
I don't know how many art directors/folks looking to hire wander the alleys (ahem, but it has to happen. Folks also need to work out managing a defined space (layout/spread/banners, the real name/company name/online name debate, should you be working diligently on pieces at your table or constantly ready to engage attendees, how to partake in panels and other offerings while maintaining a table presence, and the logistics/minutiae, etc etc etc. and do it all to stand apart from folks who, in some cases, are all 'A' Game level and can likely elevator pitch well, especially when pitching 'themselves'.
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Shilpa
I've got a question. How important is it to make your art account professional? I made mine when I was in college but the teachers made art accounts seem like business-like so that it looks appropriate when in time of hire, more than sharing art work that you felt or were kinda personal. What if I posted nude and erotic and gore art? Do I not share my account at all? Do they (people looking to hire) see our accounts as professional ones that expect us to be all decent, mature, etc. or give respect to our personal works of interest? Maybe we didn't add some of the works in the portfolio as it'll depend on what type of illustrator they're looking for, I'm pointing out to the ones that the social media account dedicated to art is in general.
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I've got a question. How important is it to make your art account professional? I made mine when I was in college but the teachers made art accounts seem like business-like so that it looks appropriate when in time of hire, more than sharing art work that you felt or were kinda personal. What if I posted nude and erotic and gore art? Do I not share my account at all? Do they (people looking to hire) see our accounts as professional ones that expect us to be all decent, mature, etc. or give respect to our personal works of interest? Maybe we didn't add some of the works in the portfolio as it'll depend on what type of illustrator they're looking for, I'm pointing out to the ones that the social media account dedicated to art is in general.
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Rasmus
Hey Guys. I just can't get into my head that it is not a good thing to have different styles and subject in your portfolio. AD's should be able to see all you can do, because who know what they need in the future. A good AD should then zoom in on the stuff he needs in your portfolio, and concentrate on that. How can it be bad that you can do others stuff too? I hear a lot of Americans say this, only one thing in you protfolio, but I don't think the same is true in europe. I started to limit my portfolio after I heard this advice. and started getting fewer jobs. As long as you have it catagoriced, I think different styles are good. Thanks for a great show! It is good to hear different opinions.
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Hey Guys. I just can't get into my head that it is not a good thing to have different styles and subject in your portfolio. AD's should be able to see all you can do, because who know what they need in the future. A good AD should then zoom in on the stuff he needs in your portfolio, and concentrate on that. How can it be bad that you can do others stuff too? I hear a lot of Americans say this, only one thing in you protfolio, but I don't think the same is true in europe. I started to limit my portfolio after I heard this advice. and started getting fewer jobs. As long as you have it catagoriced, I think different styles are good. Thanks for a great show! It is good to hear different opinions.
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Enzo
There's an old rule of thumb for standup comics--don't make fun of people for how they look; make fun of their choice to look that way (fashion sense, makeup, hairstyle, etc. So jokes about appearance, whether the person is old, fat, disabled, missing limbs, etc. are low hanging fruit because nobody could do about their aging, weight gain (well, this one is debatable, the color of skin, etc. STOP MAKING FUN OF MARSHALL'S AGE, YOU AGEIST! jk; ) Seriously, you'll get old too Prokkie boy. Then again, it's just light ribbing, I get that. But watching Marshall squirm or try hard to hide his reaction is also discomfiting to us viewers. Well, maybe it's just me heh
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There's an old rule of thumb for standup comics--don't make fun of people for how they look; make fun of their choice to look that way (fashion sense, makeup, hairstyle, etc. So jokes about appearance, whether the person is old, fat, disabled, missing limbs, etc. are low hanging fruit because nobody could do about their aging, weight gain (well, this one is debatable, the color of skin, etc. STOP MAKING FUN OF MARSHALL'S AGE, YOU AGEIST! jk; ) Seriously, you'll get old too Prokkie boy. Then again, it's just light ribbing, I get that. But watching Marshall squirm or try hard to hide his reaction is also discomfiting to us viewers. Well, maybe it's just me heh
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Mike
As someone who does art on the side i understand the portfolio exactly like a resume. I just started my career as a roofer 7 months ago and just switched companies for the first time. Before when i would apply for anything i would show in my resume evrything i have done. It makes sense that i was looking for acknowledgement and praise for what i have done already. This time around when applying for this second roofing company i summarized my work experience to show that they can see that i can help them. That i wouldnt be a liabiltity and that i can handle the job.
Interesting that i just figured this out and i saw this video a week later
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As someone who does art on the side i understand the portfolio exactly like a resume. I just started my career as a roofer 7 months ago and just switched companies for the first time. Before when i would apply for anything i would show in my resume evrything i have done. It makes sense that i was looking for acknowledgement and praise for what i have done already. This time around when applying for this second roofing company i summarized my work experience to show that they can see that i can help them. That i wouldnt be a liabiltity and that i can handle the job.
Interesting that i just figured this out and i saw this video a week later
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Shane
Stan. I-m on Marshall-s side and I-m feeling CONVICTED that I don-t do this enough. Ask yourself, how often do you check your Instagram or Pinterest in line for your coffee and see an awesome piece and then you put your phone down, order your coffee and that image gets bumped off your feed. If you can-t rediscover that artist in under 90 seconds. you-ll probably forget about it OR DISCOVER ANOTHER ARTIST in the time it takes to find the one that originally grabbed your attention. If that-s my piece I might-ve just lost an opportunity to another (lesser) artist who watermarks his/her work with an Instagram page or something
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Stan. I-m on Marshall-s side and I-m feeling CONVICTED that I don-t do this enough. Ask yourself, how often do you check your Instagram or Pinterest in line for your coffee and see an awesome piece and then you put your phone down, order your coffee and that image gets bumped off your feed. If you can-t rediscover that artist in under 90 seconds. you-ll probably forget about it OR DISCOVER ANOTHER ARTIST in the time it takes to find the one that originally grabbed your attention. If that-s my piece I might-ve just lost an opportunity to another (lesser) artist who watermarks his/her work with an Instagram page or something
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LaynArt
i've posted my artwork online for more than 10 years. Marshall is not wrong in saying that you should put it in pixels. I don't agree on putting your whole contact info, no, (ok maybe it's safe to put your email too) but your social media link and/or alias. Do that and put your email on your social media pages so people can reach you. Posting your artwork without anything is dangerous especially nowadays where artists' works get stolen every single second. Art Directors might found your art in some reposter's twitter and not know who the original artist is. Even with google reverse search. seriously i tried many times.
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i've posted my artwork online for more than 10 years. Marshall is not wrong in saying that you should put it in pixels. I don't agree on putting your whole contact info, no, (ok maybe it's safe to put your email too) but your social media link and/or alias. Do that and put your email on your social media pages so people can reach you. Posting your artwork without anything is dangerous especially nowadays where artists' works get stolen every single second. Art Directors might found your art in some reposter's twitter and not know who the original artist is. Even with google reverse search. seriously i tried many times.
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Chayemor
To the person who made the call, I suggest reading a book titled -The science of why we sleep-. Being sleepy is the sign of something you need to figure out (lack of sleep, lack of hydration, lack of food, could be you are a night owl personality where your circadian rhythm is tuned into the night, etc. Adding caffeine to it is like trying to fix the crack in a damn with scotch tape. You are putting a band aid on it, instead of looking into the root problem.
Sleep is incredibly important and something we don't take care of enough.
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To the person who made the call, I suggest reading a book titled -The science of why we sleep-. Being sleepy is the sign of something you need to figure out (lack of sleep, lack of hydration, lack of food, could be you are a night owl personality where your circadian rhythm is tuned into the night, etc. Adding caffeine to it is like trying to fix the crack in a damn with scotch tape. You are putting a band aid on it, instead of looking into the root problem.
Sleep is incredibly important and something we don't take care of enough.
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Genesis224
meme in 45: 04
yeah you're right. I don't listen to art podcasts, let alone ANY podcast except draftsmen! its my first time to listen to a podcast, which is Draftsmen, and i am absolutely enjoying every second of it!
there's so much to learn from in each and every minute of each video, specially when you're a beginner artist, which i no doubtingly am!
so yeah. keep it up! this podcast's awesome (btw im taking notes every podcast, cuz holy shit there's alot of good info)
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meme in 45: 04
yeah you're right. I don't listen to art podcasts, let alone ANY podcast except draftsmen! its my first time to listen to a podcast, which is Draftsmen, and i am absolutely enjoying every second of it!
there's so much to learn from in each and every minute of each video, specially when you're a beginner artist, which i no doubtingly am!
so yeah. keep it up! this podcast's awesome (btw im taking notes every podcast, cuz holy shit there's alot of good info)
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Yotrymp
Marshall is completely right about losing attention when not putting your name on an image that goes viral. Yeah there's reverse image search and people may be even pointing out your name, but very few people are going to care to put the time into that. Hate to say it but I'm surprised to hear the boomer be way wiser in this situation. A tiny name should be the standard. Maybe a website or instagram (or other social media) handle is smarter and a much more modern contact method.
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Marshall is completely right about losing attention when not putting your name on an image that goes viral. Yeah there's reverse image search and people may be even pointing out your name, but very few people are going to care to put the time into that. Hate to say it but I'm surprised to hear the boomer be way wiser in this situation. A tiny name should be the standard. Maybe a website or instagram (or other social media) handle is smarter and a much more modern contact method.
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