Why Use A Tiling Window Manager? Speed, Efficiency and Customization! DistroTube
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I can do 99% of what you did, with the bland old XFCE Window Manager. I have an ultrawide monitor and even then 5 tiles is more than enough for each workspace and I can control every single one of them without touching the mouse, using a launcher and keybinds.
3: 50 Here, you're using the computer like a grandpa, saying Window Managers are inefficient, while not even trying to showcase that you can actually have tiles and control workspaces with keybinds right there.
There isn't a single convincing argument made here and only things that would push people away from it, quite frankly, from the complexity and inconvenience of the actual Tiling Window Managers setup, to the smug that this community has when it comes to over-complicating everything for no reason.
I saw another video you mentioned that you push people towards these things to -free- them from the regular Window Managers, because they are the same as if you're using Windows OS. But you fail to realize one of the principles of Linux that is freedom.
Seems like this community only cares about freedom as long as other people use what they think it's best and look down on everybody else that does something differently by choice. It's pathetic, and the most cringe-worthy circle jerk I've seen on the internet.
I absolutely love Linux, but honestly I'm gonna stick to reading documentations, because watching videos like this, with someone preaching and trying to over-compensate for something is a pure waste of time.
No wonder Linux isn't more popular.
Date: 2022-03-30
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qocu
I get the argument but many claims are at least not accurate:
- menu system; most normal wm ( or rather DE ) have launchers and shortcuts, windows have even automatic shortcuts for icons on the panel, menus are convenient when you don't know what your are looking for because some programs are used, like, once a year
- you open 12 windows and you don't know where something is; well, if you open 12 windows on tiling wm all of them are probably unusable because their are too small, they may even not display correctly ( because they are too small. on the other hand you have plugins like 'scale' in compiz and 'window wall' and such which are very vast convenient and intuitive
- keyboard shortcuts; you can do many many things in normal WMs and DEs using keyboard, actually on X you I thinkg you can do everything by keyboard and srcipts that you can do using mouse
- I would actually argue that normal floating WMs and DEs are actually more configuroble when you start to write scripts, plugins and such just because they have more components, for example in compiz you could configure all windows parameters by class, type etc
not saying tiling WMs are bad, I actually prefer hybrid aproach, but the arguments are bad
ooohhh and for hand fatigue. yeah. when you have milion shortcuts your left hand starts to look like starfish in a grinder
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I get the argument but many claims are at least not accurate:
- menu system; most normal wm ( or rather DE ) have launchers and shortcuts, windows have even automatic shortcuts for icons on the panel, menus are convenient when you don't know what your are looking for because some programs are used, like, once a year
- you open 12 windows and you don't know where something is; well, if you open 12 windows on tiling wm all of them are probably unusable because their are too small, they may even not display correctly ( because they are too small. on the other hand you have plugins like 'scale' in compiz and 'window wall' and such which are very vast convenient and intuitive
- keyboard shortcuts; you can do many many things in normal WMs and DEs using keyboard, actually on X you I thinkg you can do everything by keyboard and srcipts that you can do using mouse
- I would actually argue that normal floating WMs and DEs are actually more configuroble when you start to write scripts, plugins and such just because they have more components, for example in compiz you could configure all windows parameters by class, type etc
not saying tiling WMs are bad, I actually prefer hybrid aproach, but the arguments are bad
ooohhh and for hand fatigue. yeah. when you have milion shortcuts your left hand starts to look like starfish in a grinder
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mamamia88
Sounds cool but why not have the best of both and just use a desktop like kde where you can have keyboard shortcuts for pretty much everything and have everything a click away or a run launcher Away? Personally I tend on the philosophy that the more options I have to do the same task the greater the odds I'll manage to get it done without thinking about it. I have my most used apps as a single click on the Taskbar. But stuff I need once in a blue moon in a run launcher or desktop icon or Taskbar I icon or a pinned icon in the menu etc. You can have auto and manual tiling as well. Makes my life less stressful and the computer easier to use knowing that all roads lead to Rome
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Sounds cool but why not have the best of both and just use a desktop like kde where you can have keyboard shortcuts for pretty much everything and have everything a click away or a run launcher Away? Personally I tend on the philosophy that the more options I have to do the same task the greater the odds I'll manage to get it done without thinking about it. I have my most used apps as a single click on the Taskbar. But stuff I need once in a blue moon in a run launcher or desktop icon or Taskbar I icon or a pinned icon in the menu etc. You can have auto and manual tiling as well. Makes my life less stressful and the computer easier to use knowing that all roads lead to Rome
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Fargoth
That's cool and all but I doubt this'll work with most programs people use on a regular basis. Many programs don't allow to be resized as you wish. Either the window itself can't be made small enough or it's contents won't be displayed correctly when resized to a specific size. Some common examples: Spotify, Discord, Steam. Also what about Web browsers and Office Suites?
TWMs might work great with text based programs but I can smell the compatibility issues already when used with GUI heavy programs, especially ones that don't use the native window manager frames or what it's called.
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That's cool and all but I doubt this'll work with most programs people use on a regular basis. Many programs don't allow to be resized as you wish. Either the window itself can't be made small enough or it's contents won't be displayed correctly when resized to a specific size. Some common examples: Spotify, Discord, Steam. Also what about Web browsers and Office Suites?
TWMs might work great with text based programs but I can smell the compatibility issues already when used with GUI heavy programs, especially ones that don't use the native window manager frames or what it's called.
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RedGeoBlaze
I need to reach full linux Neckbeard power.
That means I have to install Gentoo, screech in fear at systemd, Use the terminal for everything including browsing the internet, and never even think about running even a single line of non-open source code on my system even if I'll never actually read through the source code for anything.
Tiling Window Managers are the next step to go even further beyond.
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I need to reach full linux Neckbeard power.
That means I have to install Gentoo, screech in fear at systemd, Use the terminal for everything including browsing the internet, and never even think about running even a single line of non-open source code on my system even if I'll never actually read through the source code for anything.
Tiling Window Managers are the next step to go even further beyond.
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Puzzlers100
I hate having wasted space on my screen, so even in windows I always snap my windows to the halfscreen and quarter screen portions, but that is really inefficient. I don't know if a completly tiling window manager is for me, I've played around with I3wm and BSPwm before, though I really like everything that comes with KDE, so I've been using KDE + Bismuth which adds a lot of tiling functionality into KDE.
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I hate having wasted space on my screen, so even in windows I always snap my windows to the halfscreen and quarter screen portions, but that is really inefficient. I don't know if a completly tiling window manager is for me, I've played around with I3wm and BSPwm before, though I really like everything that comes with KDE, so I've been using KDE + Bismuth which adds a lot of tiling functionality into KDE.
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Ph-m
I used tiling windows manager and it's not bad at all but now I use kde plasma. KDE plasma is a desktop enviroment but it's even consuming less ram than Qtile somehow, they're both highly customizable (but kde is easier, efficiency is all about your taste but you can be equal or even more efficient than tiling wm.
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I used tiling windows manager and it's not bad at all but now I use kde plasma. KDE plasma is a desktop enviroment but it's even consuming less ram than Qtile somehow, they're both highly customizable (but kde is easier, efficiency is all about your taste but you can be equal or even more efficient than tiling wm.
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Omega
If you wanna try out a tiling window manager but you dont wanna learn key combinations and you like window decorations and to use your mouse, install an extension like gnomesome for Gnome to get the tiling functionality and keep the rest of the desktop the same
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If you wanna try out a tiling window manager but you dont wanna learn key combinations and you like window decorations and to use your mouse, install an extension like gnomesome for Gnome to get the tiling functionality and keep the rest of the desktop the same
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chocolate
Was hoping to hear some objective info about TWM and how it might be better in some ways. I couldn't get past the first couple minutes though because it's just a load of hate speech on traditional WMs. Most of which is just an opinion espoused as fact.
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Was hoping to hear some objective info about TWM and how it might be better in some ways. I couldn't get past the first couple minutes though because it's just a load of hate speech on traditional WMs. Most of which is just an opinion espoused as fact.
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