Metaethics: Crash Course Philosophy #32
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Date: 2022-04-04
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max2082
Is it morally good to treat people equally? What if a group of people were mistreated and abused in the past? As a result they feel less equal than other groups of people. Even though in actuality they are currently equal. Is it than morally good to treat this group of people better than other groups of people in order make them feel equal? Even though they are equal, but they don't feel equal? Also is it morally good that people that had no participation in the suffer and abuse of this group of people in the past should suffer, and be abused themselves because they hold similar physical traits that they have no control over with the group that is responsible for the other group's abuse? At the end of the day there are only two true or false, good or bad, equal or unequal, love or hate, war or peace, destruction or creation.
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Is it morally good to treat people equally? What if a group of people were mistreated and abused in the past? As a result they feel less equal than other groups of people. Even though in actuality they are currently equal. Is it than morally good to treat this group of people better than other groups of people in order make them feel equal? Even though they are equal, but they don't feel equal? Also is it morally good that people that had no participation in the suffer and abuse of this group of people in the past should suffer, and be abused themselves because they hold similar physical traits that they have no control over with the group that is responsible for the other group's abuse? At the end of the day there are only two true or false, good or bad, equal or unequal, love or hate, war or peace, destruction or creation.
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Jeffrey
I'd love to use this video for my students. However, moral theory is generally not introduced as realism vs. antirealism, and relativism is generally not presented as a realist option. Relativism as realism is not just a minority position, but is largely untenable in philosophical ethics at large. Please consider revising this video with realism vs. relativism or universalism vs. relativism. Few philosophers, if any, find relativism plausible, and identify its metaethical shortcomings both in individual and cultural form. Please review any number of introductory textbooks such as Vaughn, Rachels, Boss, and Ellin (not in print but excellent. Thank you.
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I'd love to use this video for my students. However, moral theory is generally not introduced as realism vs. antirealism, and relativism is generally not presented as a realist option. Relativism as realism is not just a minority position, but is largely untenable in philosophical ethics at large. Please consider revising this video with realism vs. relativism or universalism vs. relativism. Few philosophers, if any, find relativism plausible, and identify its metaethical shortcomings both in individual and cultural form. Please review any number of introductory textbooks such as Vaughn, Rachels, Boss, and Ellin (not in print but excellent. Thank you.
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Mark
All minds in all possibles worlds perceive and predict based upon a causal knotion of events.
You walk across the street and get hit by bird droppings.
Was this just?
How did your actions warrant this outcome?
The perception of injustice is intuitive to all minds in all possible worlds because they form models of causality that lead to the conclusion that children in Syria did not deserve to be gassed, by poison gas
Justice and injustice is a second order property inherent for minds, to draw a conclusion about
Even sociopathic hitmen saw the injustice of the 9/11/2001 attacks and probable got angry
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All minds in all possibles worlds perceive and predict based upon a causal knotion of events.
You walk across the street and get hit by bird droppings.
Was this just?
How did your actions warrant this outcome?
The perception of injustice is intuitive to all minds in all possible worlds because they form models of causality that lead to the conclusion that children in Syria did not deserve to be gassed, by poison gas
Justice and injustice is a second order property inherent for minds, to draw a conclusion about
Even sociopathic hitmen saw the injustice of the 9/11/2001 attacks and probable got angry
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Sazib
We live in an evil world where only suffering, unfairness and death are guaranteed for sentient biological beings. I wish I could prevent all suffering, unfairness and deaths but I can't. I hate this horrific reality. I wish I were all-powerful because then I would have ensured that no one ever suffered or experienced unfairness or died. I would have made all beings equally all-powerful so no one could harm anyone because you can't harm an all-powerful being. I would have given all beings an infinite number of universes each so that no one would be poor.
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We live in an evil world where only suffering, unfairness and death are guaranteed for sentient biological beings. I wish I could prevent all suffering, unfairness and deaths but I can't. I hate this horrific reality. I wish I were all-powerful because then I would have ensured that no one ever suffered or experienced unfairness or died. I would have made all beings equally all-powerful so no one could harm anyone because you can't harm an all-powerful being. I would have given all beings an infinite number of universes each so that no one would be poor.
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UsotheMarshmallow
I consider myself a utilitarian, and definitely think that the most ethical thing to do is whatever gives the greatest total amount of happiness or pleasure between all people, though I do think that judging others based on intention can be productive in that it will encourage others to act based on such assumptions. The goal of the utilitarianist isn't to convince others of utilitarianism, just to help encourage behaviours that act in accordance with utilitarianism
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I consider myself a utilitarian, and definitely think that the most ethical thing to do is whatever gives the greatest total amount of happiness or pleasure between all people, though I do think that judging others based on intention can be productive in that it will encourage others to act based on such assumptions. The goal of the utilitarianist isn't to convince others of utilitarianism, just to help encourage behaviours that act in accordance with utilitarianism
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Paulthored
Without looking. A Christian answer to the Burglary question.
Even though the wanna be criminal intended to do Evil, God brought it about for Good.
The burglar still committed Evil, but I'm sure that it can be forgiven. Which is also Good.
The law's on the matter, have no ability to decide that this was totally Good or Evil.
Just how much the burglar is eventually punished, if he is not forgiven.
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Without looking. A Christian answer to the Burglary question.
Even though the wanna be criminal intended to do Evil, God brought it about for Good.
The burglar still committed Evil, but I'm sure that it can be forgiven. Which is also Good.
The law's on the matter, have no ability to decide that this was totally Good or Evil.
Just how much the burglar is eventually punished, if he is not forgiven.
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Stella
Religion as a whole is whole is flawed. We used to not have science so we felt we needed a god to explain what we couldn't but now we know how gravity works and that there is no thunder god and that thunder is a natural phenomenon. I just don't feel we need organized religion anymore. It has started so many wars and oppressed so many people over the years. We are trying to move forward as a society, not backwards.
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Religion as a whole is whole is flawed. We used to not have science so we felt we needed a god to explain what we couldn't but now we know how gravity works and that there is no thunder god and that thunder is a natural phenomenon. I just don't feel we need organized religion anymore. It has started so many wars and oppressed so many people over the years. We are trying to move forward as a society, not backwards.
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Derp
Honestly, the first example (the one with the burglar and the old woman) there isn't any gray area. He, with his intentions, doesn't show any moral action; happenstance isn't moral practice. Even doing something without knowing the moral understanding but still doing good or appearing as a morally driven person, doesn't make you a morally guided being.
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Honestly, the first example (the one with the burglar and the old woman) there isn't any gray area. He, with his intentions, doesn't show any moral action; happenstance isn't moral practice. Even doing something without knowing the moral understanding but still doing good or appearing as a morally driven person, doesn't make you a morally guided being.
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ninad
There are no good or bad doing.
There are just good feelings and bad feeling.
People give birth or do anything else just because it feels good, there is no good or bad in giving birth, it is just an emotions that drives you. BTW people often change their emotions just because outcomes were not as expected.
Thanks team Crash course.
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There are no good or bad doing.
There are just good feelings and bad feeling.
People give birth or do anything else just because it feels good, there is no good or bad in giving birth, it is just an emotions that drives you. BTW people often change their emotions just because outcomes were not as expected.
Thanks team Crash course.
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Comrade
I feel like I fall in the center.
Example that burgler problem.
His actions DID lead to a better outcome, but his INTENTIONS were to do harm.
So I would say he did a good thing, it was a good action. BUT he is not a good person (or at least in that moment without ANY other added info.
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I feel like I fall in the center.
Example that burgler problem.
His actions DID lead to a better outcome, but his INTENTIONS were to do harm.
So I would say he did a good thing, it was a good action. BUT he is not a good person (or at least in that moment without ANY other added info.
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