The Legion that invaded Rome (Full History of the 13th)
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Date: 2023-08-10
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omar
I am not sure if any of this data is real. For example we know that caesar brought the xiii at the beginning of the civil war in italy, but it is hard or imposible to say which legion was in some part in particular like the xiii and i think that part in particular about the xiii in spain with cassius is nonsense since we know that caesar took his veteran legions against pompey in greece maybe not all of them but as far as we know since pompey was the real threat it makes no sense to make a veteran legion garrison some remote province away from the real danger like spain and it was garrisoned by newly recruited and deserted legions with changed numbers. And at munda again it makes no sense since caesar had retired his soldiers with money and farmland (farmland was a slow process unlike money) we know that the 10th and 5th legion followed caesar again but the 10th was due retirement and for some reason was the only old and original legion we know that followed caesar to spain kinda unbelievable because they were supposed to be rich and retired in the same way as the 9, 8, 7, 11, 12, 13, 14 (maybe) and the 5th i don't know where the legion came from or if it was due retirement. It is true that in some part of the spanish war you read something about the 13th in pompeians hands but what are they doing there? They are italians or cilsalpined gauls not spaniards and again i think it is more likely that 13th was just other 13th since the original was disbanded or at least that's what makes more sense to me
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I am not sure if any of this data is real. For example we know that caesar brought the xiii at the beginning of the civil war in italy, but it is hard or imposible to say which legion was in some part in particular like the xiii and i think that part in particular about the xiii in spain with cassius is nonsense since we know that caesar took his veteran legions against pompey in greece maybe not all of them but as far as we know since pompey was the real threat it makes no sense to make a veteran legion garrison some remote province away from the real danger like spain and it was garrisoned by newly recruited and deserted legions with changed numbers. And at munda again it makes no sense since caesar had retired his soldiers with money and farmland (farmland was a slow process unlike money) we know that the 10th and 5th legion followed caesar again but the 10th was due retirement and for some reason was the only old and original legion we know that followed caesar to spain kinda unbelievable because they were supposed to be rich and retired in the same way as the 9, 8, 7, 11, 12, 13, 14 (maybe) and the 5th i don't know where the legion came from or if it was due retirement. It is true that in some part of the spanish war you read something about the 13th in pompeians hands but what are they doing there? They are italians or cilsalpined gauls not spaniards and again i think it is more likely that 13th was just other 13th since the original was disbanded or at least that's what makes more sense to me
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Marshall
Dude this video got a lot wrong. Calling The Battle of Ilerda a bloodless battle would be like calling Cannae a Roman victory; its just not true. Caesars legions fought multiple skirmishes and several pitch battles with the Pompeian legions under the command of Petreius and Afranius. While Caesar was able to obtain Marcus Varros surrender without bloodshed these initial engagements against the five legions under Petreius and Afranius were in no way bloodless.
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Dude this video got a lot wrong. Calling The Battle of Ilerda a bloodless battle would be like calling Cannae a Roman victory; its just not true. Caesars legions fought multiple skirmishes and several pitch battles with the Pompeian legions under the command of Petreius and Afranius. While Caesar was able to obtain Marcus Varros surrender without bloodshed these initial engagements against the five legions under Petreius and Afranius were in no way bloodless.
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Semi-Useful
Fun Fact! at 24: 01 the art shown is not of Romans, but of the Yotodai from Legend of the Five Rings, they are not Rome, but are closer to Da Qin, being founded by the rogue Kami Akodo who faked his death and took the name Conquest to make his own Empire with devoid of his sibling's weakening influences. A shame that L5R got bought by FFG before AEG could complete the storyline that would see the Yotodai and Rokugan finally clash.
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Fun Fact! at 24: 01 the art shown is not of Romans, but of the Yotodai from Legend of the Five Rings, they are not Rome, but are closer to Da Qin, being founded by the rogue Kami Akodo who faked his death and took the name Conquest to make his own Empire with devoid of his sibling's weakening influences. A shame that L5R got bought by FFG before AEG could complete the storyline that would see the Yotodai and Rokugan finally clash.
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EVANGELOSS54
I cannot find any evidence of Legio XIII and IX defecting to the Optimates during the Bullum Hispaniense. there is a single reference (in wiki) of the XIII being on Cordoba fighting against Caesar but it is not corroborated from any sources I know of. can you please mention the relevant sources for that claim?
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I cannot find any evidence of Legio XIII and IX defecting to the Optimates during the Bullum Hispaniense. there is a single reference (in wiki) of the XIII being on Cordoba fighting against Caesar but it is not corroborated from any sources I know of. can you please mention the relevant sources for that claim?
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Cow
The justified assassinations always fail because they're the ones that are always prepared for it and expect it. They know it would be justified to kill them and that they have often made many enemies, so their guard is always up. It is the unjustified ones that often succeed because they never see it coming.
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The justified assassinations always fail because they're the ones that are always prepared for it and expect it. They know it would be justified to kill them and that they have often made many enemies, so their guard is always up. It is the unjustified ones that often succeed because they never see it coming.
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Patrick
I was a huge admirer of the legions until I read of the fall of Jerusalem where the legions found civilians hiding in the drainage system and slaughtered them all. Would a discussion of this give you the basis for a programme? You would obviously do it justice.
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I was a huge admirer of the legions until I read of the fall of Jerusalem where the legions found civilians hiding in the drainage system and slaughtered them all. Would a discussion of this give you the basis for a programme? You would obviously do it justice.
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Dan
Fun fact! I live in Alba Iulia (former Apulum) and I did my military service in the 136th Combat Engineer Batalion, stationed in the same town, and my batalion bears the honorary name Gemina, in rememberance of the Legio XIII Gemina. Thank you for this video!
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Fun fact! I live in Alba Iulia (former Apulum) and I did my military service in the 136th Combat Engineer Batalion, stationed in the same town, and my batalion bears the honorary name Gemina, in rememberance of the Legio XIII Gemina. Thank you for this video!
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Timo
(science fiction)
Timotheus centurionis ad milites dixit
- Legio IX, in Ucrainam ibimus. Tueri.
Est procul, Tim.
- Scio. Totum subsidium lineae annis futuris facere debemus.
Hoc decies centena milia Cestertiues constant.
- Scio.
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(science fiction)
Timotheus centurionis ad milites dixit
- Legio IX, in Ucrainam ibimus. Tueri.
Est procul, Tim.
- Scio. Totum subsidium lineae annis futuris facere debemus.
Hoc decies centena milia Cestertiues constant.
- Scio.
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Interrupting
Caught in a storm which sunk his ship, his gold and himself. They were never found.
A perfect way of saying he was pursued, killed and his gold confiscated then everyone on cassius side was killed and the ship sunk to erase all evidence.
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Caught in a storm which sunk his ship, his gold and himself. They were never found.
A perfect way of saying he was pursued, killed and his gold confiscated then everyone on cassius side was killed and the ship sunk to erase all evidence.
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Timo
Thank you for correcting the historical facts. I know that for many it would not make much difference what Roman Legion did and when. To me it is important.
Centurione dico: Legio IX in aeternum!
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Thank you for correcting the historical facts. I know that for many it would not make much difference what Roman Legion did and when. To me it is important.
Centurione dico: Legio IX in aeternum!
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Martin
Some hot Takes:
- Caesar did nothing wrong!
- The Optimates deserved their fate.
- Labienus would be remembered If He Had stayed true to Caesar
- Gauls deserved it.
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Some hot Takes:
- Caesar did nothing wrong!
- The Optimates deserved their fate.
- Labienus would be remembered If He Had stayed true to Caesar
- Gauls deserved it.
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Fan
The 13th legion which Agrippa used for Battle of Naulochus is the new 13th raised by Octavian, instead of the one which accompanied Caesar all these years, correct?
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The 13th legion which Agrippa used for Battle of Naulochus is the new 13th raised by Octavian, instead of the one which accompanied Caesar all these years, correct?
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Kaiser
Incredible how those men fought got glory among other things more than 2000 years ago but are still remembered today! They truly achieved immortality in a way.
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Incredible how those men fought got glory among other things more than 2000 years ago but are still remembered today! They truly achieved immortality in a way.
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Witomys
Filaxim Historia - 21: 46. it would be hard to guard rhine while being in pannonia. i think you meant danube. great video as always; ) keep up good work!
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Filaxim Historia - 21: 46. it would be hard to guard rhine while being in pannonia. i think you meant danube. great video as always; ) keep up good work!
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austin
Sounds to me like maybe perhaps the 13th fell in love with hispania and felt some wholehearted obligation to defend it. probably why they fought so hard
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Sounds to me like maybe perhaps the 13th fell in love with hispania and felt some wholehearted obligation to defend it. probably why they fought so hard
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Murilo
According to Tacitus, The third eagle from the Teutoburg Forest battle was returned to the Romans in AD 41 during negotiations with the Chauci tribe
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According to Tacitus, The third eagle from the Teutoburg Forest battle was returned to the Romans in AD 41 during negotiations with the Chauci tribe
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Lets
They say legion as if its powerful? sometimes more is not beneficial but is weakness. especially when dealing with Rome. But Im just blind
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They say legion as if its powerful? sometimes more is not beneficial but is weakness. especially when dealing with Rome. But Im just blind
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OneMagazine
Can you please do a video about the Roman senate? How it worked, the legislative process, how senators were elected and so on: )
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Can you please do a video about the Roman senate? How it worked, the legislative process, how senators were elected and so on: )
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alexander
This video series makes me feel patriotic about a nation that no longer exists. Really good writing and powerful source material!
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This video series makes me feel patriotic about a nation that no longer exists. Really good writing and powerful source material!
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Piotr
0: 16 of video - there is something very wrong with this symbol, I may be wrong but Roman 14 should look like XIV (not like XIIII)
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0: 16 of video - there is something very wrong with this symbol, I may be wrong but Roman 14 should look like XIV (not like XIIII)
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