Apple M1 vs AMD 5600X - It's not as cut and dry as you think - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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I expect that. The M1 is a revolution for mobile devices. Being a SoC is it's strength same as it's weakness. Great for mobile devices as it is very energy efficient. But you don't want a PC without the option to install a powerful dedicated GPU or without the option to upgrade memory. At least I don't want that. It's perfect for a closed source system like Apple and it will have it's place there. Qualcomm and others surely will copy some of the ideas, maybe even AMD or Intel. But the PC and console marked will stay with the X86/AM64 architecture for many more years because of its scalability and flexibility / games/software development. Overall, the M1 is overhyped imo, but it's definitely good that with apple there is new competition and movement in the market pushing the other competitors.
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I expect that. The M1 is a revolution for mobile devices. Being a SoC is it's strength same as it's weakness. Great for mobile devices as it is very energy efficient. But you don't want a PC without the option to install a powerful dedicated GPU or without the option to upgrade memory. At least I don't want that. It's perfect for a closed source system like Apple and it will have it's place there. Qualcomm and others surely will copy some of the ideas, maybe even AMD or Intel. But the PC and console marked will stay with the X86/AM64 architecture for many more years because of its scalability and flexibility / games/software development. Overall, the M1 is overhyped imo, but it's definitely good that with apple there is new competition and movement in the market pushing the other competitors.
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Mastermind12358
It is the best even though it does not feature the best raw performance, because raw performance is not the only thing that matters. only people obsessed with benchmarks think that. when you consider power usage and heat output the M1 absolutely annihilates everything AMD or Intel has to offer. A Lamborghini is not the best car in the world even though they are one of the fastest, they are in fact, insanely impractical. similarly some Intel or amd cpu, despite being more powerful are not -better- because better and performance is not the same word. It would be interested if you included pictures of the stock coolers all of those processors have.
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It is the best even though it does not feature the best raw performance, because raw performance is not the only thing that matters. only people obsessed with benchmarks think that. when you consider power usage and heat output the M1 absolutely annihilates everything AMD or Intel has to offer. A Lamborghini is not the best car in the world even though they are one of the fastest, they are in fact, insanely impractical. similarly some Intel or amd cpu, despite being more powerful are not -better- because better and performance is not the same word. It would be interested if you included pictures of the stock coolers all of those processors have.
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Johnpaul
Regardless. what I got out of this video... Apple hit it out of the park with their first chip! and I say to that... A tip of the hat to Apple this time! lol.. I cant wait for M1x or m2 to come out into the mac pro lineup!! THAT should be an interesting matchup! hopefully the price of the mac pro will drop drastically since it wont need as much cooling as either Intel or AMD.. and as a LONG time PC User.. the thought of owning a Mac Mini or an low end iMac to put into the living room for like a quick lookup sounds pretty feasible...
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Regardless. what I got out of this video... Apple hit it out of the park with their first chip! and I say to that... A tip of the hat to Apple this time! lol.. I cant wait for M1x or m2 to come out into the mac pro lineup!! THAT should be an interesting matchup! hopefully the price of the mac pro will drop drastically since it wont need as much cooling as either Intel or AMD.. and as a LONG time PC User.. the thought of owning a Mac Mini or an low end iMac to put into the living room for like a quick lookup sounds pretty feasible...
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Bavack
Apple: Control effective for performance, thermal, power efficiency & moneymaking
Microsoft: We tried Windows arm but failed
Intel AMD: x86 Windows is the last frontier
Nvidia: I buy ARM the new golden goose..
User: I love modularity & hates being stuck with some hardware
Me: If Microsoft can push developer to develop only Universal App, Windows phone/mobile could be resurrected. ARM microprocessor (not SoC) would be happy ending for Microsoft, hardware partner & user..
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Apple: Control effective for performance, thermal, power efficiency & moneymaking
Microsoft: We tried Windows arm but failed
Intel AMD: x86 Windows is the last frontier
Nvidia: I buy ARM the new golden goose..
User: I love modularity & hates being stuck with some hardware
Me: If Microsoft can push developer to develop only Universal App, Windows phone/mobile could be resurrected. ARM microprocessor (not SoC) would be happy ending for Microsoft, hardware partner & user..
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Paul
Try doing a bake off of real world applications. I think once you compare video clip rendering and small numbers of audio streams you will see how it out performs. It will not beat AMD with more memory or on multiple streams yet, but this is the M1 not the M10. I think that if this first iteration is this good the gauntlet has been thrown down. Personally I think that the writing is on the wall for X86, aple did not go to al this effort to install a slower processor in its machines.
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Try doing a bake off of real world applications. I think once you compare video clip rendering and small numbers of audio streams you will see how it out performs. It will not beat AMD with more memory or on multiple streams yet, but this is the M1 not the M10. I think that if this first iteration is this good the gauntlet has been thrown down. Personally I think that the writing is on the wall for X86, aple did not go to al this effort to install a slower processor in its machines.
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Danny
after watching your video and others I still cannot decide, So based on your personal opinion, if you were going to be doing just light video editing (4k if that) and the majority of my 'photo' editing is just HDR merges, i find my current i7 6th gen just a tad too slow, (not unbearably just it takes time)
So i can pick up a ryzen 5600x for about the same price as the M1, both with 16gb
The ryzen system is with a 3060
which would you get?
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after watching your video and others I still cannot decide, So based on your personal opinion, if you were going to be doing just light video editing (4k if that) and the majority of my 'photo' editing is just HDR merges, i find my current i7 6th gen just a tad too slow, (not unbearably just it takes time)
So i can pick up a ryzen 5600x for about the same price as the M1, both with 16gb
The ryzen system is with a 3060
which would you get?
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SMJ
The biggest problem with Apple M1 is that it's not yet compatible with many apps. That's probably why benchmarks give confusing results. I'm a video editor. I can easily edit 8K footage on M1 with Davinci Resolve but the same 8K footage performs a little lagging when it comes to editing with Premiere Pro. This clearly indicates that it's not the M1 that has problem with processing 8K videos but the apps are not yet fully compatible with it.
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The biggest problem with Apple M1 is that it's not yet compatible with many apps. That's probably why benchmarks give confusing results. I'm a video editor. I can easily edit 8K footage on M1 with Davinci Resolve but the same 8K footage performs a little lagging when it comes to editing with Premiere Pro. This clearly indicates that it's not the M1 that has problem with processing 8K videos but the apps are not yet fully compatible with it.
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Akashdeep
Bro it is the best performance per watt cpu ever for tasks frequently needed to be done like video editing and as you showed yourself photo editing..don-t ignore the whole expertise of aapl from building custom silicon for iPads etc...so the whole point of Amy RISC machine is to have compute tasks divided into corresponding hardware aka shorter or reduced instruction set to get each task done...!
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Bro it is the best performance per watt cpu ever for tasks frequently needed to be done like video editing and as you showed yourself photo editing..don-t ignore the whole expertise of aapl from building custom silicon for iPads etc...so the whole point of Amy RISC machine is to have compute tasks divided into corresponding hardware aka shorter or reduced instruction set to get each task done...!
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itech
Why are you comparing a desktop chip to a mobile one? I think that TDP
difference between them is far greater than performance difference. The
Ryzen 5800U is a real competitor for the M1
Go RISK! Go heterogeneous computing architecture!
It's the future, and future of Linux as well.
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Why are you comparing a desktop chip to a mobile one? I think that TDP
difference between them is far greater than performance difference. The
Ryzen 5800U is a real competitor for the M1
Go RISK! Go heterogeneous computing architecture!
It's the future, and future of Linux as well.
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Joedy
What's the price difference between a 5600x and an m1 chip? I would imagine the Price Per Performance is better on the m1. Just a thought. I know for $700 I don't think I can get anything close to the performance of the Mac mini.
Now let me find a damn keyboard the works well on this Mac...
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What's the price difference between a 5600x and an m1 chip? I would imagine the Price Per Performance is better on the m1. Just a thought. I know for $700 I don't think I can get anything close to the performance of the Mac mini.
Now let me find a damn keyboard the works well on this Mac...
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