Taking Into Account, Ep. 36 - Linus Interview, Linux Gaming, VMWare, SPURV, Ubuntu, Fedora DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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SebSenseGreen
About the gaming section of this video, I think what they are saying is they want the developers to use one distribution as a standard and/or a focus point for developers on which to develop.
Due to the nature of Linux, we can't expect them to be compatible with everything and anything. So by using one distribution as a basis for development, they remove a lot of development time and complications that could arise. Also, it is inconceivable for them to give support for everything that is out there. That would just be silly.
From that point, once they have a stable release of a game for example, others can then port what they have on the standard distribution to any distribution of their choosing and they also take the support for these non-standard ways on their shoulders. Win-Win for everybody.
--Edit: Typo.
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About the gaming section of this video, I think what they are saying is they want the developers to use one distribution as a standard and/or a focus point for developers on which to develop.
Due to the nature of Linux, we can't expect them to be compatible with everything and anything. So by using one distribution as a basis for development, they remove a lot of development time and complications that could arise. Also, it is inconceivable for them to give support for everything that is out there. That would just be silly.
From that point, once they have a stable release of a game for example, others can then port what they have on the standard distribution to any distribution of their choosing and they also take the support for these non-standard ways on their shoulders. Win-Win for everybody.
--Edit: Typo.
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Jason
Thanks a ton for covering my article at Forbes! I appreciated your insights, but I do want to draw something out. When you said I -Missed the point- about my 3rd proposed solution -- I did write this:
-It directly defies what makes Linux so attractive to its fans: choice. Choice in desktop environments and customization. Choice in embracing distributions that aggressively embrace open source (Pure OS, Fedora), or ones that make commercial software and non-free apps and drivers easily available. Choice in installing the distro that holds value to them for various, valid reasons.
So we'd be talking about a fundamental shift in what makes Linux so magical and appealing in the first place. Ultimately, we can't expect the entire Linux ecosystem to rally behind one -master- distribution, and yet that's what it will take.-
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Thanks a ton for covering my article at Forbes! I appreciated your insights, but I do want to draw something out. When you said I -Missed the point- about my 3rd proposed solution -- I did write this:
-It directly defies what makes Linux so attractive to its fans: choice. Choice in desktop environments and customization. Choice in embracing distributions that aggressively embrace open source (Pure OS, Fedora), or ones that make commercial software and non-free apps and drivers easily available. Choice in installing the distro that holds value to them for various, valid reasons.
So we'd be talking about a fundamental shift in what makes Linux so magical and appealing in the first place. Ultimately, we can't expect the entire Linux ecosystem to rally behind one -master- distribution, and yet that's what it will take.-
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WR3ND
18:01 Seems like they don't really understand what Linux is, thinking of it as one OS that should work the way they think it should. It isn't, it shouldn't, and there's really no need for it to.
It's like saying the embedded OS in a remote weather station should be used to run Fortnite. Yeah, it's ridiculous and pretty clueless, sorry to say.
Use whatever distros work for you and your needs and don't worry so much about the others. They're different for their own reasons and serve the needs of others.
If devs want to put games on Linux they can just put them on Debian/Ubuntu/SteamOS or whatever and we'll sort it out as needed. No worries.
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18:01 Seems like they don't really understand what Linux is, thinking of it as one OS that should work the way they think it should. It isn't, it shouldn't, and there's really no need for it to.
It's like saying the embedded OS in a remote weather station should be used to run Fortnite. Yeah, it's ridiculous and pretty clueless, sorry to say.
Use whatever distros work for you and your needs and don't worry so much about the others. They're different for their own reasons and serve the needs of others.
If devs want to put games on Linux they can just put them on Debian/Ubuntu/SteamOS or whatever and we'll sort it out as needed. No worries.
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Bad
Gaming on Linux. I agree with a few of the points made. I also agree with you that Linux is about freedom. Freedom to choose what distro, or apps that we use. Even the freedom to re-spin a distro.
Which brings me back to another video of yours where you were talking about Firefox and that in order to support free and open source and free and open net, that we had to support Firefox.
So, my question to you is: Is Linux about freedom and choice, or are there certain things we must adhere to in support of the free and open source and free and open net?
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Gaming on Linux. I agree with a few of the points made. I also agree with you that Linux is about freedom. Freedom to choose what distro, or apps that we use. Even the freedom to re-spin a distro.
Which brings me back to another video of yours where you were talking about Firefox and that in order to support free and open source and free and open net, that we had to support Firefox.
So, my question to you is: Is Linux about freedom and choice, or are there certain things we must adhere to in support of the free and open source and free and open net?
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Divo
Here's my idea: the big and small PC game companies + Canonical develop an Ubuntu flavor that is specifically geared to solve the three problems, let's call this game-centric Ubuntu flavor: -Gubuntu.- Now, people can double boot their main linux distro for productivity (Let's say MX Linux or Arch, or what-have-you), and boot Gubuntu if they want to play Fornite/Apex/whatever game they have in mind. People still have freedom of choice, and people can play games on Linux without the hassle. You can have your cake and eat it too =)
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Here's my idea: the big and small PC game companies + Canonical develop an Ubuntu flavor that is specifically geared to solve the three problems, let's call this game-centric Ubuntu flavor: -Gubuntu.- Now, people can double boot their main linux distro for productivity (Let's say MX Linux or Arch, or what-have-you), and boot Gubuntu if they want to play Fornite/Apex/whatever game they have in mind. People still have freedom of choice, and people can play games on Linux without the hassle. You can have your cake and eat it too =)
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bigpod
with Blizzard the problem was that many times hackers use emulated environments and well wine has some earmarks of a emulated environment as detected by Blizzards anti hacking system, so they auto banned the players because Wine emulates windows they didnt see it is linux(at normal glance) and since it showed like its emulated environment they banned them, i played quite some amount of Hearthstone and WOW on Linux didnt get banned.
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with Blizzard the problem was that many times hackers use emulated environments and well wine has some earmarks of a emulated environment as detected by Blizzards anti hacking system, so they auto banned the players because Wine emulates windows they didnt see it is linux(at normal glance) and since it showed like its emulated environment they banned them, i played quite some amount of Hearthstone and WOW on Linux didnt get banned.
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Stephen
Congrats on the new system! Hoping to see a system video tomorrow. Also, I-m looking forward to the Ubuntu flavor reviews. I stick to the LTS releases because I don-t have the time to upgrade every six months and appreciate the LTS stability, but I like seeing what-s coming in the pipeline.
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Congrats on the new system! Hoping to see a system video tomorrow. Also, I-m looking forward to the Ubuntu flavor reviews. I stick to the LTS releases because I don-t have the time to upgrade every six months and appreciate the LTS stability, but I like seeing what-s coming in the pipeline.
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Xeno
What Linux distro one uses doesn't really matter but proprietary developers should officially support Ubuntu for convenience and they should release software packages as snap or flatpak so the software easily works on any Linux distro. For games, they should obviously use Steam.
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What Linux distro one uses doesn't really matter but proprietary developers should officially support Ubuntu for convenience and they should release software packages as snap or flatpak so the software easily works on any Linux distro. For games, they should obviously use Steam.
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Mage
There is a Redox OS, written with Rust, it's awesome!
The Blizzard stuff is not true, I played a ton of SC2, WOW, Overwatch on Manjaro, and I'm still kicking.
For Android apps, the Android Studio comes with a KVM based android emulator, blazing fast.
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There is a Redox OS, written with Rust, it's awesome!
The Blizzard stuff is not true, I played a ton of SC2, WOW, Overwatch on Manjaro, and I'm still kicking.
For Android apps, the Android Studio comes with a KVM based android emulator, blazing fast.
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ritual301
Hell yeah, you ended up going for the Threadripper! Excited for you, man. Minus all the busy work of shifting around a bunch of data and reinstalling your OS, tomorrow should be a great day for you. Congrats! Look forward to vid reveal;)
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Hell yeah, you ended up going for the Threadripper! Excited for you, man. Minus all the busy work of shifting around a bunch of data and reinstalling your OS, tomorrow should be a great day for you. Congrats! Look forward to vid reveal;)
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