A Tiling Desktop Environment? Introducing The Pop Shell! DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Keith
POP OS!, has to be the best thing to happen to Linux,.. I tried for many years to get into Linux,.. Used Linux Mint / plain Umbuntu and even Gentoo,. But every time I ended up going back to windows. But since going POP! I've now been using Linux for nearly a year now, and there is no way I'm going back to Windows. :) The Tiling is fantastic, ignore the negativity from this Video. Some of the things he complained about have already been fixed, like Show Active Hint. Also the new Stacking feature is really nice.. I basically have multiple Visual Studio Code's open on a stack, and for me this works way better than adding folders to the workspace in 1 instance of VS Code. If your thinking of moving to Linux try POP!, also worth a mentioning, try it as a virtual machine for a while. Another tip, and this is likely for all Linux distro's, make you have some good backup software, it's easy to kill with a bad -sudo- command you might have seen on the net. I use TimeShift for the OS, and Back In Time for my data. As a side note, I use all this on a 40inch monitor, so the tiling was a must really.
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POP OS!, has to be the best thing to happen to Linux,.. I tried for many years to get into Linux,.. Used Linux Mint / plain Umbuntu and even Gentoo,. But every time I ended up going back to windows. But since going POP! I've now been using Linux for nearly a year now, and there is no way I'm going back to Windows. :) The Tiling is fantastic, ignore the negativity from this Video. Some of the things he complained about have already been fixed, like Show Active Hint. Also the new Stacking feature is really nice.. I basically have multiple Visual Studio Code's open on a stack, and for me this works way better than adding folders to the workspace in 1 instance of VS Code. If your thinking of moving to Linux try POP!, also worth a mentioning, try it as a virtual machine for a while. Another tip, and this is likely for all Linux distro's, make you have some good backup software, it's easy to kill with a bad -sudo- command you might have seen on the net. I use TimeShift for the OS, and Back In Time for my data. As a side note, I use all this on a 40inch monitor, so the tiling was a must really.
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Cristian
Don't agree with the conclusion, many people would benefit with having some of the functionality of a window manager while preserving the ease of use of the Gnome desktop environment. I've required this for making better use of ultra-wide screens, using i3 seemed like an overkill, involved learning a lot and configuring by hand a lot of stuff, i3 didn't support external monitors out of the box which was a minus, and I really like gnome, so I ended using a simple gnome extension for this but it was very limited. Pop shell will fully solve the problem, I also use PopOS which might be a plus, and I think it will benefit many users like me.
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Don't agree with the conclusion, many people would benefit with having some of the functionality of a window manager while preserving the ease of use of the Gnome desktop environment. I've required this for making better use of ultra-wide screens, using i3 seemed like an overkill, involved learning a lot and configuring by hand a lot of stuff, i3 didn't support external monitors out of the box which was a minus, and I really like gnome, so I ended using a simple gnome extension for this but it was very limited. Pop shell will fully solve the problem, I also use PopOS which might be a plus, and I think it will benefit many users like me.
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KahrgFPV
Looks promising, but it's still no i3.
-DistroTube I think your train of thought on what a tiling manager user wants is flawed. I have been using Plasma+i3wm for over 2 years now. The beauty of a tiling WM is not ONLY simplicity, but when you combine the two you get the best of both worlds. Managing windows with i3 is suberb, Do i want to create terminals lined up on the right side of my screen without having to manually move windows all day long? Absolutely. The list of things you can do without having to fiddle with manually moving windows is fantastic.
i3 config also allows you to do some pretty interesting things.
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Looks promising, but it's still no i3.
-DistroTube I think your train of thought on what a tiling manager user wants is flawed. I have been using Plasma+i3wm for over 2 years now. The beauty of a tiling WM is not ONLY simplicity, but when you combine the two you get the best of both worlds. Managing windows with i3 is suberb, Do i want to create terminals lined up on the right side of my screen without having to manually move windows all day long? Absolutely. The list of things you can do without having to fiddle with manually moving windows is fantastic.
i3 config also allows you to do some pretty interesting things.
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Keith
I've watched lots of your videos, usually very well balanced. But sorry, in this video you have come across as a bit of Linux Snob, and that's a shame. Please don't go that way, lets just hope you had a bad day on this one. I'm a coder, and window management is a pain in the but, I've a 40in 4K screen, and windows built in window manger is a joke. The POP OS! one is really nice, and with the virtual displays & now it doing tiling, I just feel like I'm making much more use of that 40in monitor. Try and see this as a windows manager for people who also use a mouse. :)
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I've watched lots of your videos, usually very well balanced. But sorry, in this video you have come across as a bit of Linux Snob, and that's a shame. Please don't go that way, lets just hope you had a bad day on this one. I'm a coder, and window management is a pain in the but, I've a 40in 4K screen, and windows built in window manger is a joke. The POP OS! one is really nice, and with the virtual displays & now it doing tiling, I just feel like I'm making much more use of that 40in monitor. Try and see this as a windows manager for people who also use a mouse. :)
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Stefan
Desktop Linux user here, I switched from Ubuntu GNOME to Pop!_OS (to avoid mandatory snap apps) and never found a reason to use the Pop-Shell tiling mode. As a desktop user, you don't have this workflow very often. Maybe in a university or science environment you can have both - -desktop tasks- and -manage several things in small windows in parallel tasks-. Nevermind, I left Pop!_OS after a month because I was annoyed be the changed window control shortcuts also in floating mode and moved on to Manjaro (which is -Arch for mortals-).
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Desktop Linux user here, I switched from Ubuntu GNOME to Pop!_OS (to avoid mandatory snap apps) and never found a reason to use the Pop-Shell tiling mode. As a desktop user, you don't have this workflow very often. Maybe in a university or science environment you can have both - -desktop tasks- and -manage several things in small windows in parallel tasks-. Nevermind, I left Pop!_OS after a month because I was annoyed be the changed window control shortcuts also in floating mode and moved on to Manjaro (which is -Arch for mortals-).
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Racle
Just out of curiosity, why woulnd't you want to minimize window?
I upgraded to pop_os 20.04 and using auto tiling I sometimes minimize window to hide it from screen, so I can have more screen space for my other stuff what I have. And I can alt+tab and get that minimized window visible again when I need that.
What would be -right- workflow to this?
And I like this tiling manager. Hassle free and works with keyboard and mouse.
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Just out of curiosity, why woulnd't you want to minimize window?
I upgraded to pop_os 20.04 and using auto tiling I sometimes minimize window to hide it from screen, so I can have more screen space for my other stuff what I have. And I can alt+tab and get that minimized window visible again when I need that.
What would be -right- workflow to this?
And I like this tiling manager. Hassle free and works with keyboard and mouse.
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csreindeer
There are some things I miss about tiling functionality (like when I'm programming) but also found myself super distracted in a tilingwm (not tilingwm managers fault btw, mine) so this kind of Is a happy medium for me and i cant wait for fedoras next release to implement it in my workflow.
It's not for everybody but I think that is okay. But for myself and some others this Is awesome
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There are some things I miss about tiling functionality (like when I'm programming) but also found myself super distracted in a tilingwm (not tilingwm managers fault btw, mine) so this kind of Is a happy medium for me and i cant wait for fedoras next release to implement it in my workflow.
It's not for everybody but I think that is okay. But for myself and some others this Is awesome
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Nebucatnetzer
If I could've the tiling from i3 or Qtile in Gnome Desktop I would do so instantly. While I really like how the tiling WM work there is just too much missing. Stuff like docking etc. just works better on Gnome than on i3. Sure I could use both at the same time but that feels basically like dual booting which is annoying at best.
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If I could've the tiling from i3 or Qtile in Gnome Desktop I would do so instantly. While I really like how the tiling WM work there is just too much missing. Stuff like docking etc. just works better on Gnome than on i3. Sure I could use both at the same time but that feels basically like dual booting which is annoying at best.
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Not
tbh I have several computers both running bspwm but what I'm really looking for is a big dumb 90s hackers the movie type DE, like some peanut linux type of ugly, or a functional lcars wm. I want my DE to look like a cosmic bowling alley on pride day but ive yet to find the people who share my aesthetic inclinations (or lack thereof)
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tbh I have several computers both running bspwm but what I'm really looking for is a big dumb 90s hackers the movie type DE, like some peanut linux type of ugly, or a functional lcars wm. I want my DE to look like a cosmic bowling alley on pride day but ive yet to find the people who share my aesthetic inclinations (or lack thereof)
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Noob
Switchin between floating mode and tiling mode on desktops independently would be awesome. I like a DE. But a DE that will tile when I want it to would be pretty sweet. Material Shell does this and I use it. Despite the hate, its effective. Until pop decides to implement this. I will be using material shell.
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Switchin between floating mode and tiling mode on desktops independently would be awesome. I like a DE. But a DE that will tile when I want it to would be pretty sweet. Material Shell does this and I use it. Despite the hate, its effective. Until pop decides to implement this. I will be using material shell.
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