What Android phones can learn from the iPhone XR
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Date: 2022-03-15
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Richard
This video redefines -value- to some nonsensical new meaning where a phone with clearly worse specs than other models in its range is considered better -value- because it's cheaper. Never mind that witn its latest prices (particularly if you live outside the US, Apple no longer has -any- phones in its range that could be considered good value in the normal sense of the word.
To top it off, apparently only Samsung and Google exist in the Android world according to this video, yet I'd consider none of their latest flagship phones to be particularly good value for money. Move away from those two and you suddenly see the value proposition open up with phones that have close to Samsung/Google specs, but significantly cheaper e. g. Poco F1, One Plus 6T, various Huawei models. Me? I went even lower to get maximum value - a 6GB RAM, 1080p, 64GB storage, fingerprint sensor, SD card slot (or dual SIM) phone for under $200 - beat that for -value- Apple!
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This video redefines -value- to some nonsensical new meaning where a phone with clearly worse specs than other models in its range is considered better -value- because it's cheaper. Never mind that witn its latest prices (particularly if you live outside the US, Apple no longer has -any- phones in its range that could be considered good value in the normal sense of the word.
To top it off, apparently only Samsung and Google exist in the Android world according to this video, yet I'd consider none of their latest flagship phones to be particularly good value for money. Move away from those two and you suddenly see the value proposition open up with phones that have close to Samsung/Google specs, but significantly cheaper e. g. Poco F1, One Plus 6T, various Huawei models. Me? I went even lower to get maximum value - a 6GB RAM, 1080p, 64GB storage, fingerprint sensor, SD card slot (or dual SIM) phone for under $200 - beat that for -value- Apple!
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TNM001
Ok, something i noticed in your argumentation which is quite one sided and, for me, not consistent, and very prone to opinion:
- every change from Apple that makes the phone different compared to the top tier, is -irrelevant because ppl won't care-. Quite important stuff like camera, material, screen.
- every change Android phone makers compromise on to make a cheaper phone -ppl WILL care about because its so different-
Also, price! The cheapest Iphone is what, 500+? Thats most Top-Android phones, or last gen Flagship if you buy 1 year later.
Also, you can get 250$ Android phones that you won't feel in missing out on anything for a normal workload (email, messaging, social, surfing, yt, selfies/snapshots.
There is NO OPTION in Apple for that, except used market.
But thx for your opinion i guess, i just don't agree as i'm looking at this brand agnostic.
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Ok, something i noticed in your argumentation which is quite one sided and, for me, not consistent, and very prone to opinion:
- every change from Apple that makes the phone different compared to the top tier, is -irrelevant because ppl won't care-. Quite important stuff like camera, material, screen.
- every change Android phone makers compromise on to make a cheaper phone -ppl WILL care about because its so different-
Also, price! The cheapest Iphone is what, 500+? Thats most Top-Android phones, or last gen Flagship if you buy 1 year later.
Also, you can get 250$ Android phones that you won't feel in missing out on anything for a normal workload (email, messaging, social, surfing, yt, selfies/snapshots.
There is NO OPTION in Apple for that, except used market.
But thx for your opinion i guess, i just don't agree as i'm looking at this brand agnostic.
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David
I largely agree, however in my opinion the issue is when you factor in the apple tax. The 1200$ for the iPhone XS Max isn't 1200$ of hardware that apple pays for, a quick google search estimates around 430$ in hardware. To Mike's point however, I think it would be nice for companies like Samsung or Google to do something similar in unifying their design in a more budget friendly phone without sacrificing the internal hardware too much ie budget snapdragon chipsets. He's right in that a lot of people really don't care about screen density, having six cameras on the rear, etc.
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I largely agree, however in my opinion the issue is when you factor in the apple tax. The 1200$ for the iPhone XS Max isn't 1200$ of hardware that apple pays for, a quick google search estimates around 430$ in hardware. To Mike's point however, I think it would be nice for companies like Samsung or Google to do something similar in unifying their design in a more budget friendly phone without sacrificing the internal hardware too much ie budget snapdragon chipsets. He's right in that a lot of people really don't care about screen density, having six cameras on the rear, etc.
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Guy-Robert
I'm an Android fan and I see the value in the iPhone XR but I actually have to defend the device to people around me specially iOS users whom disregard it as the next 5c, the kid version, the cheap one or -not the real deal-. Android is where it needs to be (besides that Notch copying trend, useless) since we are now seeing new categories come out: will always have the camera centric flagships, the mid range options are now more than decent and finally we are starting to see some gaming centric phones ie Asus ROG and all its accessories.
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I'm an Android fan and I see the value in the iPhone XR but I actually have to defend the device to people around me specially iOS users whom disregard it as the next 5c, the kid version, the cheap one or -not the real deal-. Android is where it needs to be (besides that Notch copying trend, useless) since we are now seeing new categories come out: will always have the camera centric flagships, the mid range options are now more than decent and finally we are starting to see some gaming centric phones ie Asus ROG and all its accessories.
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morlium
OnePlus 6T, Pocophone F1 are both excellent values and there are plenty of value-driven Android phones. That's not my point here. What I want to see is a Pixel or Galaxy S phone that gives customers a real alternative to the premium tier phones. I understand the diff between OLED, HD, etc, and the iPhone XR isn't cheap by any stretch, but it's Apple cheap. It's giving customers a real alternative to the XS, not just a cut-rate one. You're all saying you wouldn't want a $500 Galaxy S10 that follows the same philosophy of the XR?
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OnePlus 6T, Pocophone F1 are both excellent values and there are plenty of value-driven Android phones. That's not my point here. What I want to see is a Pixel or Galaxy S phone that gives customers a real alternative to the premium tier phones. I understand the diff between OLED, HD, etc, and the iPhone XR isn't cheap by any stretch, but it's Apple cheap. It's giving customers a real alternative to the XS, not just a cut-rate one. You're all saying you wouldn't want a $500 Galaxy S10 that follows the same philosophy of the XR?
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pr0xZen
What is this guy smoking? A big display doesn't equal value. Big, reasonable quality displays are fairly cheap. 750USD is -definitely- not a good value smartphone. Especially not for the customer group he points out. With Samsung as an example (because their models are fairly easily available -everywhere-): The Galaxy S line is their flagship line. The Galaxy A line is their value oriented models.
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What is this guy smoking? A big display doesn't equal value. Big, reasonable quality displays are fairly cheap. 750USD is -definitely- not a good value smartphone. Especially not for the customer group he points out. With Samsung as an example (because their models are fairly easily available -everywhere-): The Galaxy S line is their flagship line. The Galaxy A line is their value oriented models.
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john
LCD vs OLED - How many consumers you talk of have tested both and say they dont care?
Its fair to say people -DONT KNOW-
Considering consumers are going less for + sizes i dont see your point being fair.
Hopefully people will question -how is it possible to have a bigger screen in a cheaper phone-
This video is not fair, its subjective. It excludes too many people
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LCD vs OLED - How many consumers you talk of have tested both and say they dont care?
Its fair to say people -DONT KNOW-
Considering consumers are going less for + sizes i dont see your point being fair.
Hopefully people will question -how is it possible to have a bigger screen in a cheaper phone-
This video is not fair, its subjective. It excludes too many people
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cooljay21
This is like the Verge build a PC. this guy is living on US and phones there are pretty expensive and more of apple, we are lucky here in Asia we have a lot of options of products with value. there are Snapdragon 845 6 to 10GB RAM from Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Poco, Honor, Oneplus etc. that makes that XR you are bragging is trash and irrelevant here.
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This is like the Verge build a PC. this guy is living on US and phones there are pretty expensive and more of apple, we are lucky here in Asia we have a lot of options of products with value. there are Snapdragon 845 6 to 10GB RAM from Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Poco, Honor, Oneplus etc. that makes that XR you are bragging is trash and irrelevant here.
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xbx2207
Still didn't get your point. If I want to buy an iPhone I will buy the R cuz of the color choices and will not a buy an x or Xs or max cuz they are expensive overpriced from my point.
I had an iPhone b4 and never bought one again cuz Noting unique about it and I have two sims to use.
So buying two iPhones is a waste of money.
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Still didn't get your point. If I want to buy an iPhone I will buy the R cuz of the color choices and will not a buy an x or Xs or max cuz they are expensive overpriced from my point.
I had an iPhone b4 and never bought one again cuz Noting unique about it and I have two sims to use.
So buying two iPhones is a waste of money.
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Romeu
On Android you don't pay less and receive more because it's competition on iPhones they make sub fHD phones and charge 750 with bigger bezels how much Inch's the screen it's personal choice what's Mather is the % of screen, the resolution and color reproduction the oneplus 6T is bether in any aspect and its 549
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On Android you don't pay less and receive more because it's competition on iPhones they make sub fHD phones and charge 750 with bigger bezels how much Inch's the screen it's personal choice what's Mather is the % of screen, the resolution and color reproduction the oneplus 6T is bether in any aspect and its 549
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