Intel Arc Gaming GPU Explained: What Is It? How Much Will It Cost? How Will It Compete?
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Date: 2022-03-15
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fturla
If Intel's sells their ARC GPU hardware anywhere near 600 US dollars or higher, they'll be committing suicide, since, no one wants to risk spending that much money for something they have no idea will work let alone perform at a high level. Any prices below 300 is relatively safe if Intel markets the product as their premium line up. But their budget value and entry level cards must sell at well below 200 dollars for anyone to take a risk on them. They could try to sell their next generation video card architecture for closer to the premium price levels Nvidia and AMD are marketing their products, if and only if their current offerings are successful products. If they actually want to disrupt the current marketplace, they need to sell something at under 300 dollars that perform above the RTX 3060ti, RX 6600XT, or slightly below an RTX 3070 or RX 6700XT.
What do I believe they will do? They'll try to sell something around 450 which probably will perform at RTX 3060 or RX 6600 level which is just as suicidal, and eventually, they will be forced to almost immediately discount the cards more than a hundred dollars just to get of them off the shelves. Remember, Intel is still as arrogant today as they were five years ago, so, they have the weakness of overcharging for their products and seeing if the price sticks.
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If Intel's sells their ARC GPU hardware anywhere near 600 US dollars or higher, they'll be committing suicide, since, no one wants to risk spending that much money for something they have no idea will work let alone perform at a high level. Any prices below 300 is relatively safe if Intel markets the product as their premium line up. But their budget value and entry level cards must sell at well below 200 dollars for anyone to take a risk on them. They could try to sell their next generation video card architecture for closer to the premium price levels Nvidia and AMD are marketing their products, if and only if their current offerings are successful products. If they actually want to disrupt the current marketplace, they need to sell something at under 300 dollars that perform above the RTX 3060ti, RX 6600XT, or slightly below an RTX 3070 or RX 6700XT.
What do I believe they will do? They'll try to sell something around 450 which probably will perform at RTX 3060 or RX 6600 level which is just as suicidal, and eventually, they will be forced to almost immediately discount the cards more than a hundred dollars just to get of them off the shelves. Remember, Intel is still as arrogant today as they were five years ago, so, they have the weakness of overcharging for their products and seeing if the price sticks.
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Groud
I don't mind giving Intel a shot here, even if there wasn't a shortage, but especially because there is one - one that AMD and Nvidia have taken full advantage of at the expense of their most loyal customers. A third seller in this space will be good for consumers and the more cards they sell, the more AMD and Nvidia will be on their toes. People are out here paying $600+ on a 1660ti and $1500+ on a prebuilt with a 2060. If they can at least match a 1660ti with performance for $150 - $200 or a 5700xt for $450-ish I think they will move units. Intel can afford to sell at a loss, for now, claiming the 'hero we need' title until all this dies down. I suspect they will have to price products nicely for quite some time to try to grab some market share.
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I don't mind giving Intel a shot here, even if there wasn't a shortage, but especially because there is one - one that AMD and Nvidia have taken full advantage of at the expense of their most loyal customers. A third seller in this space will be good for consumers and the more cards they sell, the more AMD and Nvidia will be on their toes. People are out here paying $600+ on a 1660ti and $1500+ on a prebuilt with a 2060. If they can at least match a 1660ti with performance for $150 - $200 or a 5700xt for $450-ish I think they will move units. Intel can afford to sell at a loss, for now, claiming the 'hero we need' title until all this dies down. I suspect they will have to price products nicely for quite some time to try to grab some market share.
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Tanmay
Intel seems like the only company that can make a GPU launch right now.
The odds are definitely stacked against them.
At this point from what I understand, moving to N6 which is more like the N7 with advances(smaller, efficient, better yields per wafer.
the shortage right now is substrates (aka the raw materials) for the chip to be build with not the manufacturing capacity.
Intel has been stockpiling the Gddr6 memory for a long time now atleast enough for their initial orders they plan to sell.
The biggest problem is the rest of the components, PCB and their raw materials are not enough the current nature of the world are getting even harder for global supply chain to source.
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Intel seems like the only company that can make a GPU launch right now.
The odds are definitely stacked against them.
At this point from what I understand, moving to N6 which is more like the N7 with advances(smaller, efficient, better yields per wafer.
the shortage right now is substrates (aka the raw materials) for the chip to be build with not the manufacturing capacity.
Intel has been stockpiling the Gddr6 memory for a long time now atleast enough for their initial orders they plan to sell.
The biggest problem is the rest of the components, PCB and their raw materials are not enough the current nature of the world are getting even harder for global supply chain to source.
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Edward
I know tech tubers need something to talk about, but the pre-launch hype train over Alder Lake and Arc graphics has dragged on for months. I'll watch videos that benchmark and review actual shipping product.
These vaporware videos have already gotten extremely tiresome, and Arc graphic cards are still many months from launching before they too will be sold out and scalped.
Intel still hasn't produced working gaming drivers for the 11th gen IGP that they said would trounce AMD's IGP. Intel has been overpromising and underdelivering for so long now that it will just be amazing to see an Intel GPU running an actual video game.
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I know tech tubers need something to talk about, but the pre-launch hype train over Alder Lake and Arc graphics has dragged on for months. I'll watch videos that benchmark and review actual shipping product.
These vaporware videos have already gotten extremely tiresome, and Arc graphic cards are still many months from launching before they too will be sold out and scalped.
Intel still hasn't produced working gaming drivers for the 11th gen IGP that they said would trounce AMD's IGP. Intel has been overpromising and underdelivering for so long now that it will just be amazing to see an Intel GPU running an actual video game.
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pcworld
I have no faith in Intel or the ability to ever buy a GPU at a reasonable price again. Even when the chip shortage is over, the scumbaggery of these companies will carry on. But, IF they can make a good card, price it low, and make it easilier obtainable for the public rather than 3rd party retailers or scalpers. That would be a huge win for them. Also, Keep the GPUs outta those scumbags at Newegg's hands. I know. wishful thinking.
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I have no faith in Intel or the ability to ever buy a GPU at a reasonable price again. Even when the chip shortage is over, the scumbaggery of these companies will carry on. But, IF they can make a good card, price it low, and make it easilier obtainable for the public rather than 3rd party retailers or scalpers. That would be a huge win for them. Also, Keep the GPUs outta those scumbags at Newegg's hands. I know. wishful thinking.
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Mikael
MMS, DLSS, Ray-traycing, Fidelity FX Super Resolution, XeSS. all bull!
All technologies in all GPU's should just work.
Imagine, you would have to choose which wheels you want on your car when you bought it, the type of plastic your TV should be made of before buying it, the software in your refrigerator. It should all just work.
The PC market is still full of anachronistic shit from the 90s!
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MMS, DLSS, Ray-traycing, Fidelity FX Super Resolution, XeSS. all bull!
All technologies in all GPU's should just work.
Imagine, you would have to choose which wheels you want on your car when you bought it, the type of plastic your TV should be made of before buying it, the software in your refrigerator. It should all just work.
The PC market is still full of anachronistic shit from the 90s!
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Robert
Just like others, I'll just wait until independent reviewers like Paul, Linus, Jay, Jim and Steve provide content coverage on them. Yet I am pleased that Apple has their M1 launched, whereas I believe that they should've migrated to ARM ages ago in order to consolidate all of their solutions. In fact it would provide a bit of edutainment as I could install a ARM distro on one. ;)
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Just like others, I'll just wait until independent reviewers like Paul, Linus, Jay, Jim and Steve provide content coverage on them. Yet I am pleased that Apple has their M1 launched, whereas I believe that they should've migrated to ARM ages ago in order to consolidate all of their solutions. In fact it would provide a bit of edutainment as I could install a ARM distro on one. ;)
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TSN
What sort of compatibility are we expecting? Is this just going to work with existing and future software (e. g blender, video editors) and games out of the box, or would it be reliant on developers playing ball and releasing compatibility patches for existing software to not run like ass?
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What sort of compatibility are we expecting? Is this just going to work with existing and future software (e. g blender, video editors) and games out of the box, or would it be reliant on developers playing ball and releasing compatibility patches for existing software to not run like ass?
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Pinoynobody
Hmm. If the price is right, I might just settle for an Intel ARC GPU, I don't really need ultra-quality graphics, as long as I can run games in medium to high graphics at 60 fps for offline single-player games and 120 fps for online games without losing fps, I'm good.
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Hmm. If the price is right, I might just settle for an Intel ARC GPU, I don't really need ultra-quality graphics, as long as I can run games in medium to high graphics at 60 fps for offline single-player games and 120 fps for online games without losing fps, I'm good.
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My
I've been working with Nvidia since the early '00s and I'm an Nvidia Partner, but I'll happily try out Intel's GPUs if they do a good job and make them affordable to people. I suspect they might go with the last of the three pricing schemes you mentioned. Let's hope not.
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I've been working with Nvidia since the early '00s and I'm an Nvidia Partner, but I'll happily try out Intel's GPUs if they do a good job and make them affordable to people. I suspect they might go with the last of the three pricing schemes you mentioned. Let's hope not.
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