2018 / 2019 Ford F-150 Diesel Review - Downsizing the PowerStroke
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Comments and reviews: 10
John Huff
The F150 diesel is a marketing disaster. In my opinion they should have used a timing chain as a rubber belt is a weakness that no diesel engine should have to defend. They should have priced it between the 2. 7 EB and the 5. 0 V8. They should have made it available across all trim levels. Had they done those things they would not be able to make them fast enough. As it is they cant seem to push them off of the lot fast enough because the math doesnt make any sense. If I am going to spend that sort of money I may as well go ahead and get the big boy truck (3/4 ton or 1 ton) from Ford (or someone else. This power plant does absolutely nothing to justify its steep cost. I predict that Ford will drop it in a few years.
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The F150 diesel is a marketing disaster. In my opinion they should have used a timing chain as a rubber belt is a weakness that no diesel engine should have to defend. They should have priced it between the 2. 7 EB and the 5. 0 V8. They should have made it available across all trim levels. Had they done those things they would not be able to make them fast enough. As it is they cant seem to push them off of the lot fast enough because the math doesnt make any sense. If I am going to spend that sort of money I may as well go ahead and get the big boy truck (3/4 ton or 1 ton) from Ford (or someone else. This power plant does absolutely nothing to justify its steep cost. I predict that Ford will drop it in a few years.
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joe13glover
Great review. I replaced my 2015 5. 0l with the 3. 0 power stroke and do not regret it one bit. I pull a trailer regularly and have seen big fuel economy differences. The engine is very quiet in all situations. I looked at 3/4 ton cause it seemed to make sense but the ride without a payload and without a trailer is horrible compared to the f150. We tend to use this vehicle for long road trips as well so that was not an option. Could I have gotten away with the 2. 7 sure but I like what I like and I like diesel power. Its only money anyway right? You can greatly increase the power easily with a tune for cheap and be dusting gasers in power and fuel economy. I would do this purchase over again in a heartbeat.
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Great review. I replaced my 2015 5. 0l with the 3. 0 power stroke and do not regret it one bit. I pull a trailer regularly and have seen big fuel economy differences. The engine is very quiet in all situations. I looked at 3/4 ton cause it seemed to make sense but the ride without a payload and without a trailer is horrible compared to the f150. We tend to use this vehicle for long road trips as well so that was not an option. Could I have gotten away with the 2. 7 sure but I like what I like and I like diesel power. Its only money anyway right? You can greatly increase the power easily with a tune for cheap and be dusting gasers in power and fuel economy. I would do this purchase over again in a heartbeat.
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Kip Amore
As much as I love diesel, theres more reasons not to buy one. All over the midwest, diesel is. 80 to 1. 00 more. Thats HUGE. Thats goddamn 25 per tank The other is maintenance. Break down in your gasser, even a fancy twin turbo gasser, and any decent mechanic can work in it and get parts for it anywhere. With diesel, you will be MARRIED to the dealership, and remember. dealership mechanics are WORSE than independants, though you pay TWICE as much for them. The second the warranty runs out in ANY diesel, you are screwed as bad as a Sprinter owner. Add DEF and DPF problems, and unless your job is to haul 30, 000lbs every single day youd be nuts to buy the diesel. And YET I still want one.
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As much as I love diesel, theres more reasons not to buy one. All over the midwest, diesel is. 80 to 1. 00 more. Thats HUGE. Thats goddamn 25 per tank The other is maintenance. Break down in your gasser, even a fancy twin turbo gasser, and any decent mechanic can work in it and get parts for it anywhere. With diesel, you will be MARRIED to the dealership, and remember. dealership mechanics are WORSE than independants, though you pay TWICE as much for them. The second the warranty runs out in ANY diesel, you are screwed as bad as a Sprinter owner. Add DEF and DPF problems, and unless your job is to haul 30, 000lbs every single day youd be nuts to buy the diesel. And YET I still want one.
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skellington2000
I havent done the match specifically for this truck, but you are right, it rarely makes economic sense to get the diesel for any of the trucks because the total premium is usually 4-6K plus DEF fluid PLUS you are going to have to replace the DPF filter eventually, probably around the 100K miles mark and those things cost several thousand depending on the truck. The break even point for many of these trucks is going to be 100K miles or more. Of course if you tow a LOT and/or drive a ton of miles it might very well make sense. Forget about doing a DPF delete. Its illegal and those small diesel particles wreck peoples lungs.
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I havent done the match specifically for this truck, but you are right, it rarely makes economic sense to get the diesel for any of the trucks because the total premium is usually 4-6K plus DEF fluid PLUS you are going to have to replace the DPF filter eventually, probably around the 100K miles mark and those things cost several thousand depending on the truck. The break even point for many of these trucks is going to be 100K miles or more. Of course if you tow a LOT and/or drive a ton of miles it might very well make sense. Forget about doing a DPF delete. Its illegal and those small diesel particles wreck peoples lungs.
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bill slabich
Im thinking about getting rid of my Toyota tundra and repreplacing it with the new Ford diesel. I drive a lot of miles. On average 45, 000-50, 000 a year. I also tow three snowmobiles behind it during the winter. So thinking that the greater mpg, the 100k mile warranty over the 60k warranty on the EcoBoost, the towing capabilities, the possible better trade in value, and hopeful longevity of the proven motor would be better for my driving style over the EcoBoost. Thoughts?
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Im thinking about getting rid of my Toyota tundra and repreplacing it with the new Ford diesel. I drive a lot of miles. On average 45, 000-50, 000 a year. I also tow three snowmobiles behind it during the winter. So thinking that the greater mpg, the 100k mile warranty over the 60k warranty on the EcoBoost, the towing capabilities, the possible better trade in value, and hopeful longevity of the proven motor would be better for my driving style over the EcoBoost. Thoughts?
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News that matter
Everything Ford does is a disaster. They dont care about quality control or ethics. They will prematurely release cars without being fully evaluated. Theyre cleaning house and getting rid of inventory. They got rid of their small car lineup and will continue to push as many products as they can to make sure they have nothing left and then will claim they no longer will make automobile sedans, crossovers and hatchbacks. oh wait, they just did.
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Everything Ford does is a disaster. They dont care about quality control or ethics. They will prematurely release cars without being fully evaluated. Theyre cleaning house and getting rid of inventory. They got rid of their small car lineup and will continue to push as many products as they can to make sure they have nothing left and then will claim they no longer will make automobile sedans, crossovers and hatchbacks. oh wait, they just did.
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Neo Craft
I went with a 2019 f250 6. 7 Diesel Lariat Crew Cab. The f150 diesels are the same price and you get a whole lot less truck (2600 lbs less to be exact) and a whole lot of nuisance (auto stop/start, trailer backup assist, too many gears not enuff power and a timing belt) when you choose the f150. Im so happy with my f250 6. 7. It has tons of power and makes my 8400 lbs truck seem like its 3500 lbs And the 6-speed torqueshift tranny is great too
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I went with a 2019 f250 6. 7 Diesel Lariat Crew Cab. The f150 diesels are the same price and you get a whole lot less truck (2600 lbs less to be exact) and a whole lot of nuisance (auto stop/start, trailer backup assist, too many gears not enuff power and a timing belt) when you choose the f150. Im so happy with my f250 6. 7. It has tons of power and makes my 8400 lbs truck seem like its 3500 lbs And the 6-speed torqueshift tranny is great too
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Jeff Hirata
Another great video The only thing you didnt really mention is reliability. There is probably no solid long term reliability data yet, but I think most 3. 0 diesel owners hope to get the million mile reliability of the old 7. 3 turbo diesel. Or at least they hope for double. If the 3. 0 lasts 500k miles and the 2. 7 is done at 250k, the numbers all add up differently.
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Another great video The only thing you didnt really mention is reliability. There is probably no solid long term reliability data yet, but I think most 3. 0 diesel owners hope to get the million mile reliability of the old 7. 3 turbo diesel. Or at least they hope for double. If the 3. 0 lasts 500k miles and the 2. 7 is done at 250k, the numbers all add up differently.
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Bobby
At current gas vs diesel prices and the up front cost of this diesel engine, you will need to drive it between 135-160, 000 miles to break even on cost. This excludes any repairs or the huge cost jump by forcing you to buy a higher trim to access the engine. Do frivolously spending platinum owners really want a significantly weaker engine to boost mpg a marginal number?
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At current gas vs diesel prices and the up front cost of this diesel engine, you will need to drive it between 135-160, 000 miles to break even on cost. This excludes any repairs or the huge cost jump by forcing you to buy a higher trim to access the engine. Do frivolously spending platinum owners really want a significantly weaker engine to boost mpg a marginal number?
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K Adam Williams
Wow Alex, Ive watched a lot and I mean, A LOT of truck videos. You did it best. Thorough, informative and accurate. Not to mention properly articulate. Nothing is more annoying than, a lazy tongued host (yes, that is weird sounding I know, let the comments fly here) when talking. Apart from above great work, liking and subscribing, dropping the TFLT folks.
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Wow Alex, Ive watched a lot and I mean, A LOT of truck videos. You did it best. Thorough, informative and accurate. Not to mention properly articulate. Nothing is more annoying than, a lazy tongued host (yes, that is weird sounding I know, let the comments fly here) when talking. Apart from above great work, liking and subscribing, dropping the TFLT folks.
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