The 2024 Chevy Silverado EV Is The Spendy Work Truck For The 1%
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Date: 2023-06-26
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aluisious
This truck is going to pulverize the roads with its weight, it's going to pulverize other cars in crashes, and it uses an egregious amount of limited resources to make the huge battery. If capitalism was a functional system, we'd be making small cars for people to get to work in, that were affordable, easy to charge, and conserved resources to get as many people as possible into them to lower emissions. Instead we make these monstrosities because car companies think it will make them more profit, so they will destroy our roads, kill people, and waste the resources we need.
Someone is going to go blah blah it is functional, but any system that results in its own downfall after a limited amount of time is NOT functional.
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This truck is going to pulverize the roads with its weight, it's going to pulverize other cars in crashes, and it uses an egregious amount of limited resources to make the huge battery. If capitalism was a functional system, we'd be making small cars for people to get to work in, that were affordable, easy to charge, and conserved resources to get as many people as possible into them to lower emissions. Instead we make these monstrosities because car companies think it will make them more profit, so they will destroy our roads, kill people, and waste the resources we need.
Someone is going to go blah blah it is functional, but any system that results in its own downfall after a limited amount of time is NOT functional.
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TW
Although I generally agree with the high price = DOA, one counter fact is true in this scenario. If a business buys these, they are a depreciating asset. As such, tax write-offs for the book keepers. (And, despite the MSRP price, many fleet buyers won't pay that due to volume discounts, favored pricing due to business relationships with GM, etc)
As said, I generally agree with the synopsis of few of them being sold compare to ICE models. But, say you have the customer that buys ICE for most employees and 10-20% of the fleet for the white collar supervisors. Government credits for buying green for that small percentage, tax write-offs, company environmental image. .
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Although I generally agree with the high price = DOA, one counter fact is true in this scenario. If a business buys these, they are a depreciating asset. As such, tax write-offs for the book keepers. (And, despite the MSRP price, many fleet buyers won't pay that due to volume discounts, favored pricing due to business relationships with GM, etc)
As said, I generally agree with the synopsis of few of them being sold compare to ICE models. But, say you have the customer that buys ICE for most employees and 10-20% of the fleet for the white collar supervisors. Government credits for buying green for that small percentage, tax write-offs, company environmental image. .
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APileofRocks
These EV's are nice ideas, but I think these prices are simply unsustainable. Even in America, there's a limit to how much people can or will borrow for these. This product is targeted at a market that, in the aggregate, won't spend 70k on a work truck. I don't think it's the manufacturers being ludicrous, however. It's likely the subsidies and mandates driving this demand, and these vehicles are simply expensive to manufacture. We'll likely see a market correction within 10 years if manufacturers don't prioritize making these vehicles less expensive on the lot.
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These EV's are nice ideas, but I think these prices are simply unsustainable. Even in America, there's a limit to how much people can or will borrow for these. This product is targeted at a market that, in the aggregate, won't spend 70k on a work truck. I don't think it's the manufacturers being ludicrous, however. It's likely the subsidies and mandates driving this demand, and these vehicles are simply expensive to manufacture. We'll likely see a market correction within 10 years if manufacturers don't prioritize making these vehicles less expensive on the lot.
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webcomment
Since Ford jacked up the price of the Lightning truck, there is no longer any need for GM to compete on that price.
They also will likely build them in low volume. So, Chevy EV super fans will snap up the few available even at 60k to 90K pricing.
We can also now assume that the base Cybertruck will no longer be nowhere near 40K when it gets released.
The first Cybertrucks to go on sale may only be dual and triple motor variants. So, the base single motor Cybertruck may be a few years away.
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Since Ford jacked up the price of the Lightning truck, there is no longer any need for GM to compete on that price.
They also will likely build them in low volume. So, Chevy EV super fans will snap up the few available even at 60k to 90K pricing.
We can also now assume that the base Cybertruck will no longer be nowhere near 40K when it gets released.
The first Cybertrucks to go on sale may only be dual and triple motor variants. So, the base single motor Cybertruck may be a few years away.
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Malifestro
Meanwhile the average buyer still hasn't had a huge pay increase and continues to shop in the sub 40k range. I can't help but to notice an increase in sedans on the road again in my area. Used car volumes still outpace new by a factor of 3x at least. And used car average prices are around 30k or less. There is a massive divide between this vehicle and the avg consumer. Certainly a vehicle for the 1%.
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Meanwhile the average buyer still hasn't had a huge pay increase and continues to shop in the sub 40k range. I can't help but to notice an increase in sedans on the road again in my area. Used car volumes still outpace new by a factor of 3x at least. And used car average prices are around 30k or less. There is a massive divide between this vehicle and the avg consumer. Certainly a vehicle for the 1%.
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alliejr
I don t know what kind of commercial customer Chevy surveyed for this work truck, but it s no fleet customer I ve ever known. A fleet truck driving >100 miles per day is rare and certainly nothing close to 400 miles. Maybe they are thinking of the battery as a power generator on site, but the battery (and therefore price) are still probably 2X what vast majority of fleet customers require.
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I don t know what kind of commercial customer Chevy surveyed for this work truck, but it s no fleet customer I ve ever known. A fleet truck driving >100 miles per day is rare and certainly nothing close to 400 miles. Maybe they are thinking of the battery as a power generator on site, but the battery (and therefore price) are still probably 2X what vast majority of fleet customers require.
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Jason
The only person with a fleet account that will buy one of these is the owner of the company. Did these companies do ANY market research? They had to, right? Like a bunch of truck designers called actual business owners that buy their fleet vehicles and simply asked what the business owner wants in a work truck? I'm sure it wasn't something that costs 2x as much and requires special fueling.
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The only person with a fleet account that will buy one of these is the owner of the company. Did these companies do ANY market research? They had to, right? Like a bunch of truck designers called actual business owners that buy their fleet vehicles and simply asked what the business owner wants in a work truck? I'm sure it wasn't something that costs 2x as much and requires special fueling.
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MrBankRelations
Folks are dumb for supporting the ev bs, we as a country can t physically produce the amount of electricity for all these cars without mass pollution. They also are not practical for most folks and they don t work in all situations. Once this fad dies off we can get back to just folks that want to drive em not endless model discontinuations over it.
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Folks are dumb for supporting the ev bs, we as a country can t physically produce the amount of electricity for all these cars without mass pollution. They also are not practical for most folks and they don t work in all situations. Once this fad dies off we can get back to just folks that want to drive em not endless model discontinuations over it.
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Erick
77k? Well, i think its time people start bud lighting these astronomical prices. They only charge it because people with disposable income are buying them. If they really want joe average to buy these, then they need to price it to be competitive. Work truck starting price is higher then higher trim levels on ICE trucks. Take a long walk off a short pier.
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77k? Well, i think its time people start bud lighting these astronomical prices. They only charge it because people with disposable income are buying them. If they really want joe average to buy these, then they need to price it to be competitive. Work truck starting price is higher then higher trim levels on ICE trucks. Take a long walk off a short pier.
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finalmage6
I'm very concerned with the overall increase in automobile prices, much less 60K+ trucks that are less convenient than their ICE counterparts. I don't know if it's average wages not keeping up, or manufacture prices going up, or some combination of both, but the everyday person is getting squeezed out of even being able to afford a new vehicle.
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I'm very concerned with the overall increase in automobile prices, much less 60K+ trucks that are less convenient than their ICE counterparts. I don't know if it's average wages not keeping up, or manufacture prices going up, or some combination of both, but the everyday person is getting squeezed out of even being able to afford a new vehicle.
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Delta
Everything looked great until price. When the 40K becomes 50K plus and it's really about 77K. I think the Chevy may be better than the Ford, but I won't be buying either.
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Everything looked great until price. When the 40K becomes 50K plus and it's really about 77K. I think the Chevy may be better than the Ford, but I won't be buying either.
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Green&Blue
Wait has the Hummer BEV gone up in price? Because if it has not doubled in price why buy the shilverodo BEV over the Hummer Truck?
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Wait has the Hummer BEV gone up in price? Because if it has not doubled in price why buy the shilverodo BEV over the Hummer Truck?
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George
Way too expensive. Either a lot of people have money to waste, or else people are taking on loans they will never be able to pay back.
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Way too expensive. Either a lot of people have money to waste, or else people are taking on loans they will never be able to pay back.
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