Kia vs Honda, Which is Better
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Date: 2019-05-28
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Ive always been impressed with how sturdy my 1991 Honda Civic was, as its chassis and rear bumper were built like a truck, which I found out about from a side-swiped collision it was in. Possibly one, of many, reasons that car dealers scrimp on warranty work: Pressure from the auto makers when it comes to reimbursements to the dealers. My brother used to work for Isuzu as a parts-and-service zone manager, where he did well in the company when it came to minimizing the dollar amounts of warranty repair claims the car dealers were making to Isuzu. Basically, part of his job was was to contend with the dealers, and customers, about the merits of warranty repair claims; as he would either approve or deny the claims. .. which meant that either Isuzu would have to pay-up, or not, to the dealers. So, with that kind of approach with looking after the financial bottom-line, dealers could likely do the warranty repairs on-the-cheap and not necessarily do it right. I can imagine that the short-term financial savings done by Isuzu, ended up with long-term ill-feelings by customers, with likely no repeat business. As an aside, my brother was working for Isuzu in 1991 when I was looking for a new car, and he could have cut me a good deal with buying their Stylus. I drove the Stylus, where I thought it was a tin-box with its three-speed auto transmission. The Honda Civic, on the other hand, felt solid, with a four-speed transmission. To say the least, my brother was miffed by my choice of the Honda over the Isuzu. But, the 235K miles I put on that Civic confirmed I made the right choice.
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Ive always been impressed with how sturdy my 1991 Honda Civic was, as its chassis and rear bumper were built like a truck, which I found out about from a side-swiped collision it was in. Possibly one, of many, reasons that car dealers scrimp on warranty work: Pressure from the auto makers when it comes to reimbursements to the dealers. My brother used to work for Isuzu as a parts-and-service zone manager, where he did well in the company when it came to minimizing the dollar amounts of warranty repair claims the car dealers were making to Isuzu. Basically, part of his job was was to contend with the dealers, and customers, about the merits of warranty repair claims; as he would either approve or deny the claims. .. which meant that either Isuzu would have to pay-up, or not, to the dealers. So, with that kind of approach with looking after the financial bottom-line, dealers could likely do the warranty repairs on-the-cheap and not necessarily do it right. I can imagine that the short-term financial savings done by Isuzu, ended up with long-term ill-feelings by customers, with likely no repeat business. As an aside, my brother was working for Isuzu in 1991 when I was looking for a new car, and he could have cut me a good deal with buying their Stylus. I drove the Stylus, where I thought it was a tin-box with its three-speed auto transmission. The Honda Civic, on the other hand, felt solid, with a four-speed transmission. To say the least, my brother was miffed by my choice of the Honda over the Isuzu. But, the 235K miles I put on that Civic confirmed I made the right choice.
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Dave Brown
Scotty, glad I found your channel, lots of good information. The Hyundai/Kia engine recall you mention is only one of their engine problems I have heard about, but it is connected to something else you complained about in another video: them catching on fire. This turned out to be a Dealer caused problem, because too many of the cars under the recall had their high pressure fuel lines damaged by the Dealer when the engines were removed/reinstalled in the car for that recall. There is now Another recall to have them check the high pressure fuel lines in every one that had the previous recall done. I have heard about bad valve guides causing oil loss, and a new program for the engine knock detector to pick up main bearing clatter, but if you maintain a car in the ways that you suggest, these problems should not be fatal. Of course, I only found out about all these issues After I bought my 2016 Optima SXT. It is the nicest car I have ever owned, hands-down, and 3/4 the price of a Lexus (or Id be driving a Lexus. I try to be a bike commuter, so only 21k miles on my Optima in 3 years, but like you, I am approaching retirement age, so well see if it holds up for 10 years like some of my previous cars. P. S.: I love the memes you put in the corner of the screen to either make the point or just to show a laugh when you guffaw at something. I dont know how you find them, and have the time to work on cars and make all these videos.
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Scotty, glad I found your channel, lots of good information. The Hyundai/Kia engine recall you mention is only one of their engine problems I have heard about, but it is connected to something else you complained about in another video: them catching on fire. This turned out to be a Dealer caused problem, because too many of the cars under the recall had their high pressure fuel lines damaged by the Dealer when the engines were removed/reinstalled in the car for that recall. There is now Another recall to have them check the high pressure fuel lines in every one that had the previous recall done. I have heard about bad valve guides causing oil loss, and a new program for the engine knock detector to pick up main bearing clatter, but if you maintain a car in the ways that you suggest, these problems should not be fatal. Of course, I only found out about all these issues After I bought my 2016 Optima SXT. It is the nicest car I have ever owned, hands-down, and 3/4 the price of a Lexus (or Id be driving a Lexus. I try to be a bike commuter, so only 21k miles on my Optima in 3 years, but like you, I am approaching retirement age, so well see if it holds up for 10 years like some of my previous cars. P. S.: I love the memes you put in the corner of the screen to either make the point or just to show a laugh when you guffaw at something. I dont know how you find them, and have the time to work on cars and make all these videos.
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RADIN SYAH
I was a looong time Honda owner of several models. Im now driving a VW. Heres why. I had an accident with my Honda Stream when a car rear ended me when stationary. The impact was so great that my car just crashed into the SUV infront. So great, that my glasses flew off and the glove box opened itself. So great. but no airbags deployed. Hmmm I thought. Then my friend who had a Civic had a huge accident on the highway that just caved in both his front and rear. Guess what? No airbags deployed. I told him about my experience and he asked the dealer to have his car checked. Turns out, the system said airbags deployed, when in fact, they didnt. Now, we have Takata airbags in Hondas that are, ironically, too overzealous and kill people. Besides that, the airconditioning system on my Honda required some expensive parts replaced every so often that I thought these Japanese cars might be cheaper to buy but theyre kinda expensive to maintain. Last, Japanese cars feel old quickly. Screws get loose, plastics falling off, and dash squeeking here and there. You know, old. Now I drive a VW Sharan 7N1 and though its not perfect, its not quite a money pit. Plus its safer, and feels new (solid build) longer. My 2 cents.
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I was a looong time Honda owner of several models. Im now driving a VW. Heres why. I had an accident with my Honda Stream when a car rear ended me when stationary. The impact was so great that my car just crashed into the SUV infront. So great, that my glasses flew off and the glove box opened itself. So great. but no airbags deployed. Hmmm I thought. Then my friend who had a Civic had a huge accident on the highway that just caved in both his front and rear. Guess what? No airbags deployed. I told him about my experience and he asked the dealer to have his car checked. Turns out, the system said airbags deployed, when in fact, they didnt. Now, we have Takata airbags in Hondas that are, ironically, too overzealous and kill people. Besides that, the airconditioning system on my Honda required some expensive parts replaced every so often that I thought these Japanese cars might be cheaper to buy but theyre kinda expensive to maintain. Last, Japanese cars feel old quickly. Screws get loose, plastics falling off, and dash squeeking here and there. You know, old. Now I drive a VW Sharan 7N1 and though its not perfect, its not quite a money pit. Plus its safer, and feels new (solid build) longer. My 2 cents.
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Ralph
Even in SoCal, I have family and friends who purchased Kia, Toyotas, Hondas, Mazda. The Honda and Toyota dealerships service is a lot more organized with less waiting time if you schedule your appointment. Parts are readily avail like Scotty always says and cheaper. My dads Kia 2014 vehicle I took it to the Dealership because it was under warranty and the dash clock stopped working. It was a mess at the Dealership. I read reviews of two locations about being terrible. So I dropped off the vehicle they said THEY would call me. Hours passed, I called them and no answer, I show up they tell me to pick it up next day. The rep called and left me a voicemail, I called him up 20 minutes later. The secretary was um. he didnt show up today. I tell them he just left me a voicemail 20 mins ago. um hold please Then I get the rep telling me the car was already done. SMH. Toyota never had that issue. I only worry about Kia, Mazada and Subaru dealerships they are sparse compared to Toyota and Honda places.
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Even in SoCal, I have family and friends who purchased Kia, Toyotas, Hondas, Mazda. The Honda and Toyota dealerships service is a lot more organized with less waiting time if you schedule your appointment. Parts are readily avail like Scotty always says and cheaper. My dads Kia 2014 vehicle I took it to the Dealership because it was under warranty and the dash clock stopped working. It was a mess at the Dealership. I read reviews of two locations about being terrible. So I dropped off the vehicle they said THEY would call me. Hours passed, I called them and no answer, I show up they tell me to pick it up next day. The rep called and left me a voicemail, I called him up 20 minutes later. The secretary was um. he didnt show up today. I tell them he just left me a voicemail 20 mins ago. um hold please Then I get the rep telling me the car was already done. SMH. Toyota never had that issue. I only worry about Kia, Mazada and Subaru dealerships they are sparse compared to Toyota and Honda places.
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Conan Harris
The one thing I dont like about Honda is the timing belt. I will never buy a car with a timing belt. The time I had a Honda I had the timing belt changed and month later the belt broke destroying the engine. I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata with 64, 000 miles on it. I had to get the trunk latch replaced and the sway bars replaced under warranty. I also had a 2013 Toyota Camry with 40, 000 miles on it and had throttle problems. I would drive it for 3 hrs and the car would just stop. I had to pull over on the side of the highway. The engine was running but there was no throttle response. I took it to the dealer several times and they couldnt find the problem. When I almost got in an accident because of the throttle problem I got rid of it. My Hyundai may have giving me minor problems, but I didnt leave me stranded like the Honda and the Toyota.
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The one thing I dont like about Honda is the timing belt. I will never buy a car with a timing belt. The time I had a Honda I had the timing belt changed and month later the belt broke destroying the engine. I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata with 64, 000 miles on it. I had to get the trunk latch replaced and the sway bars replaced under warranty. I also had a 2013 Toyota Camry with 40, 000 miles on it and had throttle problems. I would drive it for 3 hrs and the car would just stop. I had to pull over on the side of the highway. The engine was running but there was no throttle response. I took it to the dealer several times and they couldnt find the problem. When I almost got in an accident because of the throttle problem I got rid of it. My Hyundai may have giving me minor problems, but I didnt leave me stranded like the Honda and the Toyota.
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Bailey M
Ok, I had both. I first had a Civic and it had 450, 000 miles and then got stolen in 2012. Parts ripped out, it was a shame because engine and transmission where going strong. So I went to look to buy 2012 Accord but during that time, you needed to buy the EX-L (top of line) to have hands free Bluetooth and satellite radio. They also were expensive, 30K. So I got a Hyundai Sonata, they had a base car with leather (they were trying a local company) and it came standard with Bluetooth and satellite for only 21, 700. I drove a lot, a year ago I took my car in for taillight issue and just mentioned that engine ran rough at times but rare. They ended changing my engine out under warranty even though I had 118, 000 miles at no cost I got a great deal with both cars so I dont think you could go wrong based on my years of experience with both brands.
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Ok, I had both. I first had a Civic and it had 450, 000 miles and then got stolen in 2012. Parts ripped out, it was a shame because engine and transmission where going strong. So I went to look to buy 2012 Accord but during that time, you needed to buy the EX-L (top of line) to have hands free Bluetooth and satellite radio. They also were expensive, 30K. So I got a Hyundai Sonata, they had a base car with leather (they were trying a local company) and it came standard with Bluetooth and satellite for only 21, 700. I drove a lot, a year ago I took my car in for taillight issue and just mentioned that engine ran rough at times but rare. They ended changing my engine out under warranty even though I had 118, 000 miles at no cost I got a great deal with both cars so I dont think you could go wrong based on my years of experience with both brands.
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browneye
I used to think that Koreans cars have stepped up tremendously and could compete or become better that the Japanese cars. They havent. I have a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe which is only slightly over 100, 000km. One day when I was driving long distance, the Water Pump failed and the whole engine burned up. Whats worse was the Temperature Indicator didnt indicate any rise of temperature until just before the car switched off. My wife and I even noticed a krek-krek sound from the engine before any Indicator warning. It cost me a freaking 16 thousand to fix and overhaul the engine. Im just saying that if its a Toyota or Honda or Nissan, the Water Pump is highly unlikely to break down at 100, 000km. I have lost my confidence in Korean cars and I dont think I would ever be able to look at them the same way I did
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I used to think that Koreans cars have stepped up tremendously and could compete or become better that the Japanese cars. They havent. I have a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe which is only slightly over 100, 000km. One day when I was driving long distance, the Water Pump failed and the whole engine burned up. Whats worse was the Temperature Indicator didnt indicate any rise of temperature until just before the car switched off. My wife and I even noticed a krek-krek sound from the engine before any Indicator warning. It cost me a freaking 16 thousand to fix and overhaul the engine. Im just saying that if its a Toyota or Honda or Nissan, the Water Pump is highly unlikely to break down at 100, 000km. I have lost my confidence in Korean cars and I dont think I would ever be able to look at them the same way I did
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FDGREBEL
Ive owned an 02 HONDA CRV for a year now. I bought it off my ma because I overheard our local mechanic asking her to sell it to him. He said he wanted it as a run around because its so easy to fix. Its on 90, 000 miles and has never broken down. Just service every year - never over 300 at worst. At best 200 per service but thats not bad for once a year. Before this magical beast I had a Renault Clio in the shop for 300 a month. Piece of commie French garbage. Now the gas mileage is was like 22mpg but I cleaned the air filters and had the oil changed and now Im getting 30 mpg which is alright for its size. but it will never let you down. Its a crossover suv but is so spacious. Enormous trunk for moving stuff around. Best car Ive ever owned because its so practical.
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Ive owned an 02 HONDA CRV for a year now. I bought it off my ma because I overheard our local mechanic asking her to sell it to him. He said he wanted it as a run around because its so easy to fix. Its on 90, 000 miles and has never broken down. Just service every year - never over 300 at worst. At best 200 per service but thats not bad for once a year. Before this magical beast I had a Renault Clio in the shop for 300 a month. Piece of commie French garbage. Now the gas mileage is was like 22mpg but I cleaned the air filters and had the oil changed and now Im getting 30 mpg which is alright for its size. but it will never let you down. Its a crossover suv but is so spacious. Enormous trunk for moving stuff around. Best car Ive ever owned because its so practical.
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DOHC 106
Both Honda and Kia have had their set of problems and recalls. Engines, transmissions, and suspensions for example. I had a 1997 Honda civic - bad transmission, cooling, and motor mount problems. 2007 kia Optima - suspension, fuel, electrical, and ac problems. All these problems happened before 100, 000 miles. The Honda was wash up at that point but the kia power train outlasted it. Go figure. Certain models years of cars are better than others and if you take care of your car that matters too. I think Scotty has a point with pricing though. I cant see myself buying a kia sorento over a Honda pilot. The kias are over priced and dont ride as well, but both of them are better than Nissan though. I owned one and never again.
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Both Honda and Kia have had their set of problems and recalls. Engines, transmissions, and suspensions for example. I had a 1997 Honda civic - bad transmission, cooling, and motor mount problems. 2007 kia Optima - suspension, fuel, electrical, and ac problems. All these problems happened before 100, 000 miles. The Honda was wash up at that point but the kia power train outlasted it. Go figure. Certain models years of cars are better than others and if you take care of your car that matters too. I think Scotty has a point with pricing though. I cant see myself buying a kia sorento over a Honda pilot. The kias are over priced and dont ride as well, but both of them are better than Nissan though. I owned one and never again.
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