Zagreb to Belgrade onboard Slovenian overnight train
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Date: 2024-01-09
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-Ilebuda
I had my first interrail trip (altogether five to seven summers, don't remember anymore) when i was 17 mid 80's. This would have been luxurious experience those days. Often the trains were so full that you had to stand the whole trip in the area between the coaches or use your luggage as a seat. No air conditioning except at TGV or Talgo. If you were lucky, you could stand in the corridor hanging out of the windows.
The best thing for a poor youngster was to end up in the same coach with countryside people in France, Italy or Spain. They would always fed you with their delicious food and wine. Unforgettable memories.
Probably the young people today would not even survive those trips: -)
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I had my first interrail trip (altogether five to seven summers, don't remember anymore) when i was 17 mid 80's. This would have been luxurious experience those days. Often the trains were so full that you had to stand the whole trip in the area between the coaches or use your luggage as a seat. No air conditioning except at TGV or Talgo. If you were lucky, you could stand in the corridor hanging out of the windows.
The best thing for a poor youngster was to end up in the same coach with countryside people in France, Italy or Spain. They would always fed you with their delicious food and wine. Unforgettable memories.
Probably the young people today would not even survive those trips: -)
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-tng2057
I used to travel on the Akorpolis Express between Germany and Athens in the 80s, not in one go but in separate sections. Journey time 2 days. While Yugoslavia being one country at the time certainly saved border control time, the Yugoslav Railways JZ was always not on time (ie late) big time (my Beograd to Athens journey 12 hours late when arrived at Athens) and I read on local papers about the relevant JZ staff getting communist style criticisms. DB carriages dominated the train set and it was really a scene to see DB blue and beige coaches at Athens station.
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I used to travel on the Akorpolis Express between Germany and Athens in the 80s, not in one go but in separate sections. Journey time 2 days. While Yugoslavia being one country at the time certainly saved border control time, the Yugoslav Railways JZ was always not on time (ie late) big time (my Beograd to Athens journey 12 hours late when arrived at Athens) and I read on local papers about the relevant JZ staff getting communist style criticisms. DB carriages dominated the train set and it was really a scene to see DB blue and beige coaches at Athens station.
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The new train station of Belgrade is an attempt to turn us into another North Korea with useless giant objects like this station which is in the middle of nowhere. It is inaccessible by public transport and the number of trains are permanently decreasing. That is thanks to many works on rain network renovation. oftentimes the works take years to complete and sometimes the track is just dismantled and no works commence. Few people still ride the remaining trains and theyre irregular, normally late and occasionally cancelled.
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The new train station of Belgrade is an attempt to turn us into another North Korea with useless giant objects like this station which is in the middle of nowhere. It is inaccessible by public transport and the number of trains are permanently decreasing. That is thanks to many works on rain network renovation. oftentimes the works take years to complete and sometimes the track is just dismantled and no works commence. Few people still ride the remaining trains and theyre irregular, normally late and occasionally cancelled.
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-ttrreevv
In 98 I was travelling from Vienna to Belgrade with my mum. We got detained at the hungry border for not having a visa, even though we were travelling through to Belgrade. 6 hrs later we-re on train back to Vienna and had to purchase visas which cost 1600 AUD. When we finally got to Budapest to change to the Belgrade train we had similar seat that folded together, only problem was the train was booked and legs were all over the place. Love discovering your older videos. Cheers
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In 98 I was travelling from Vienna to Belgrade with my mum. We got detained at the hungry border for not having a visa, even though we were travelling through to Belgrade. 6 hrs later we-re on train back to Vienna and had to purchase visas which cost 1600 AUD. When we finally got to Budapest to change to the Belgrade train we had similar seat that folded together, only problem was the train was booked and legs were all over the place. Love discovering your older videos. Cheers
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-RomanianMapper999
Well simplyrailway, sometimes happen train are with fat whells.
Like a lot of types.
Always my favourite train in italy,
Is frecciargento etr485.
Well pretty hard the laugnage, you know SNCF depart from French to Italy.
Soo. most comfort class is 1 or executive, Or business the 1st class.
Slovenia trains have fat whells,
Pretty loud, but More expensive flight is from Slovenia to Argentina i think.
Well, i hope good flight, byee.
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Well simplyrailway, sometimes happen train are with fat whells.
Like a lot of types.
Always my favourite train in italy,
Is frecciargento etr485.
Well pretty hard the laugnage, you know SNCF depart from French to Italy.
Soo. most comfort class is 1 or executive, Or business the 1st class.
Slovenia trains have fat whells,
Pretty loud, but More expensive flight is from Slovenia to Argentina i think.
Well, i hope good flight, byee.
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-tihosesar
Yugoslavia had business class trains then with all the comforts and speed; onboard music or tv, stewards who-d bring you food and drink (all included in the price of the ticket) hot towels, etc.
The train was called Sava Express and would only make 3 stops between Belgrade and Ljubljana: Vinkovci, slavonski brod, and Zagreb.
It would leave Belgrade at 15: 05, arrive in Zagreb at 18: 00 and Ljubljana at 20: 00.
Those were the times!
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Yugoslavia had business class trains then with all the comforts and speed; onboard music or tv, stewards who-d bring you food and drink (all included in the price of the ticket) hot towels, etc.
The train was called Sava Express and would only make 3 stops between Belgrade and Ljubljana: Vinkovci, slavonski brod, and Zagreb.
It would leave Belgrade at 15: 05, arrive in Zagreb at 18: 00 and Ljubljana at 20: 00.
Those were the times!
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-brugnadeiro
I took an overnight train from Ljubljana to Belgrade in 2010 (train n. 315, Lj 21: 15 -> Beograd 06: 19) and it was made by Serbian cars. There was at least a couchette car, I remember a japanese man that went to my compartment without a ticket and with croatian kunas only and I borrowed 5-. He paid 5- to the conductor to the Zagreb-Beograd trip in couchette (I'm not sure it was an official ticket or if he just took money.
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I took an overnight train from Ljubljana to Belgrade in 2010 (train n. 315, Lj 21: 15 -> Beograd 06: 19) and it was made by Serbian cars. There was at least a couchette car, I remember a japanese man that went to my compartment without a ticket and with croatian kunas only and I borrowed 5-. He paid 5- to the conductor to the Zagreb-Beograd trip in couchette (I'm not sure it was an official ticket or if he just took money.
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-naruciakk
I must say that your ticket habits are quite- interesting. I mean, I'd buy my ticket for such ride online as soon as possible and online. Ok, it's not always possible, but I wouldn't feel safe without the ticket first xD
BTW, have you checked an offer called Balkan Railpass? I used it for a travel on route Beograd-Thessaloniki-Athens and also for many trains inside Greece, it's really nice.
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I must say that your ticket habits are quite- interesting. I mean, I'd buy my ticket for such ride online as soon as possible and online. Ok, it's not always possible, but I wouldn't feel safe without the ticket first xD
BTW, have you checked an offer called Balkan Railpass? I used it for a travel on route Beograd-Thessaloniki-Athens and also for many trains inside Greece, it's really nice.
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-mdemb7928
We took this train from Slovenia few years back, overall it was ok. Saddly we chise the wrong day to travel as on some days they have actual sleepers. Nevertheless. We've got mugged when the train eas in Serbia(i was not all that surprised having experienced quiet a lot of eastern europe railway before) toilets were ba health hazard, but i live that u can ooen the window on those trains
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We took this train from Slovenia few years back, overall it was ok. Saddly we chise the wrong day to travel as on some days they have actual sleepers. Nevertheless. We've got mugged when the train eas in Serbia(i was not all that surprised having experienced quiet a lot of eastern europe railway before) toilets were ba health hazard, but i live that u can ooen the window on those trains
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I used to carry a stack of US $1 bills for situations like with the Serbian conductor. Last time I used them was around 1990, when Yugoslavia was still one country. Today I would also carry some 5 Euro notes, especially in Serbia. Settles minor difficult payment issues, no questions asked. Being a little generous helps. Suggestion: -Toilet Time-, not -Toilets Time-.
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I used to carry a stack of US $1 bills for situations like with the Serbian conductor. Last time I used them was around 1990, when Yugoslavia was still one country. Today I would also carry some 5 Euro notes, especially in Serbia. Settles minor difficult payment issues, no questions asked. Being a little generous helps. Suggestion: -Toilet Time-, not -Toilets Time-.
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-tapatazapata5970
To me it looks like a steal. 10 Euro and a bit of change for almost 400 km, one night in a hotel saved, an empty compartment, a chill conductor that spared you the consequences for the class upgrade and for the missing ticket. The coach is old, but didn't look that bad.
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To me it looks like a steal. 10 Euro and a bit of change for almost 400 km, one night in a hotel saved, an empty compartment, a chill conductor that spared you the consequences for the class upgrade and for the missing ticket. The coach is old, but didn't look that bad.
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-InterRegios
And the main tip is: book your ticket in advance, especially if you're travelling between no Schengen/EU countries. Happened to me the same whilst travelling to Romania, being awake twice in the middle of the night is quite annoying
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And the main tip is: book your ticket in advance, especially if you're travelling between no Schengen/EU countries. Happened to me the same whilst travelling to Romania, being awake twice in the middle of the night is quite annoying
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-stephenharper9961
You said worst journey but everything seemed fine, the guard didn't have to let you off with the fare, and the toilet didn't look overly bad to be honest and you did only pay little fare so really shouldn't complain
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You said worst journey but everything seemed fine, the guard didn't have to let you off with the fare, and the toilet didn't look overly bad to be honest and you did only pay little fare so really shouldn't complain
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-fresagrus4490
I took this train. It was a return Belgrade - Zagreb - Belgrade trip. Back then, 2017, there were couchettes, I took one of them. No issues with the ticket because I bought the entire trip in Belgrade
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I took this train. It was a return Belgrade - Zagreb - Belgrade trip. Back then, 2017, there were couchettes, I took one of them. No issues with the ticket because I bought the entire trip in Belgrade
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-ronik24
Hi,
Nice video! :-)
I can tell you how it was in Europe before Schengen, at least in sleeper/couchette cars you handed your passport to the car attendant and he handled it for you. Comfy: 0)
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Hi,
Nice video! :-)
I can tell you how it was in Europe before Schengen, at least in sleeper/couchette cars you handed your passport to the car attendant and he handled it for you. Comfy: 0)
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-johnmiller5679
I used to drive from Belgrade to Zagreb in less time then your trip was. That-s Eastern Europe which is completely different the. The rail most people think of when they think of Europe.
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I used to drive from Belgrade to Zagreb in less time then your trip was. That-s Eastern Europe which is completely different the. The rail most people think of when they think of Europe.
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-IvanaSantic
I always have fun in this train. It is the only thing that is left from ex Yugoslavia. (they couldn't kill the train paths) No Dayton needed. So, is it running in the coronavirus time?
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I always have fun in this train. It is the only thing that is left from ex Yugoslavia. (they couldn't kill the train paths) No Dayton needed. So, is it running in the coronavirus time?
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-tombombadil9123
you paid 11. 75 eur for the whole trip Zagreb-Belgrade? that's cheep -
an adventure the kind of like you couldn't possibly experience in Germany or France -
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you paid 11. 75 eur for the whole trip Zagreb-Belgrade? that's cheep -
an adventure the kind of like you couldn't possibly experience in Germany or France -
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-stein999999999
Nice trip. Sadly as far as I can find out, the service now terminates in Slavonski Brod, so you cant actually get to Belgrade via train from the north.
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Nice trip. Sadly as far as I can find out, the service now terminates in Slavonski Brod, so you cant actually get to Belgrade via train from the north.
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-Mew178
Yeah welcome to the massive disappointment that is HZ. At least they're finally after 30 years of super neglect, nepotism and corruption trying to fix it.
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Yeah welcome to the massive disappointment that is HZ. At least they're finally after 30 years of super neglect, nepotism and corruption trying to fix it.
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-andersonwilson730
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Nice video but I don't really need this because I let my expert trader handle my trades and make me profits. Mr. Alexander therfan
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Demanding a couchette WITHOUT bothering to buy ticket or reservation is unheard of in UK and Western Europe. Why unfairly blame Balkan rails?
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Demanding a couchette WITHOUT bothering to buy ticket or reservation is unheard of in UK and Western Europe. Why unfairly blame Balkan rails?
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-Openbaarmaker
Imagine how comfortable the journey must've been before the breakup of Yugoslavia. No border controls and no international tickets.
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Imagine how comfortable the journey must've been before the breakup of Yugoslavia. No border controls and no international tickets.
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-divox9pqr
You seem to make the repeated mistake of assuming the ticket offices will be open at odd times. Why not check earlier to determine this?
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You seem to make the repeated mistake of assuming the ticket offices will be open at odd times. Why not check earlier to determine this?
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-SandraWuerthner
I can remember at the sleeper the conductor take your passport with your ticket - you got it back, when breakfast was served.
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I can remember at the sleeper the conductor take your passport with your ticket - you got it back, when breakfast was served.
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-NerdX151
A night train does not always mean couchettes and sleeping cars. A lot of night trains in Europe only offer seating options.
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A night train does not always mean couchettes and sleeping cars. A lot of night trains in Europe only offer seating options.
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-BB-yg2qp
You have also in Europe the overnight trains without sleeping car or with couchette this is not only in the Balkan Peninsula
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You have also in Europe the overnight trains without sleeping car or with couchette this is not only in the Balkan Peninsula
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-Nightraven26
Fun fact, the route goes through Slavonski Brod, where Agatha Christie-s Murder on the Orient Express takes place
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Fun fact, the route goes through Slavonski Brod, where Agatha Christie-s Murder on the Orient Express takes place
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-5mnz7fg
Very sad to witness these silly border controls between small countries which once were part of a greater Yugoslavia.
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Very sad to witness these silly border controls between small countries which once were part of a greater Yugoslavia.
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-angloengland559
Although annoying, border points helped vastly with controlling many negative aspects that today flow freely
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Although annoying, border points helped vastly with controlling many negative aspects that today flow freely
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-gpeg10462
The first sign this was probably not going to be a good ride was when you saw graffiti on the side of the train.
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The first sign this was probably not going to be a good ride was when you saw graffiti on the side of the train.
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-chavandposh
I was on same train just diffrent direction back in November 2006, it looked exactly same back then and now.
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I was on same train just diffrent direction back in November 2006, it looked exactly same back then and now.
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-tehangrybird345
I highly request you do an Amtrak Acela review, they are going to be replaced soon and I loved my trip!
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I highly request you do an Amtrak Acela review, they are going to be replaced soon and I loved my trip!
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-YaoboyExperiences
Slovenian and Serbian railways uses locos that is based on the SJ class RC4, as shown in the video.
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Slovenian and Serbian railways uses locos that is based on the SJ class RC4, as shown in the video.
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Maybe he excepted 1, 75 Euros for the -Ticket- in Serbia. BECAUSE 1, 75- ARE ABOUT 200 DINAR. But a great Video
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Maybe he excepted 1, 75 Euros for the -Ticket- in Serbia. BECAUSE 1, 75- ARE ABOUT 200 DINAR. But a great Video
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