
Types of Passenger Cars Part 2: Train Talk Ep. 27
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Date: 2020-04-15
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Dave
One slight correction to your Viewliner 1 commentary. One of the prototype cars was a diner. All production Viewliner 1's were sleepers. Another one off design not mentioned are the single level cars built by Mafersa for VRE (Virginia Railway Express) and now are in service on CDOT (Connecticut Dept. of Transportation) trains. Another commuter design are the electric MU's used by Metra Electric and The South Shore (Chicago, South Shore and South Bend. The South Shore also has single level electric mu's (a one off design) with electric traction motors and car bodies similar to the MARC Nippon Sharyo cars but with doors at both ends and the middle with cabs at each car end (each car is bi-directional. Both of the aforementioned Chicago, South Shore and South Bend car designs were built by Nippon Sharyo.
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One slight correction to your Viewliner 1 commentary. One of the prototype cars was a diner. All production Viewliner 1's were sleepers. Another one off design not mentioned are the single level cars built by Mafersa for VRE (Virginia Railway Express) and now are in service on CDOT (Connecticut Dept. of Transportation) trains. Another commuter design are the electric MU's used by Metra Electric and The South Shore (Chicago, South Shore and South Bend. The South Shore also has single level electric mu's (a one off design) with electric traction motors and car bodies similar to the MARC Nippon Sharyo cars but with doors at both ends and the middle with cabs at each car end (each car is bi-directional. Both of the aforementioned Chicago, South Shore and South Bend car designs were built by Nippon Sharyo.
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Dave
Great video! Only nit I have to pick is that GO Transit is not just Toronto but most of the Greater Toronto Area (GTA, with routes north to Barrie on Lake Simcoe, northwest to Guelph, and west to Hamilton and around Lake Ontario with the summer Bike Train to Niagara Falls. Service is further expanded by the various bus routes that GO also runs. Yes, I know that a number of the routes are only single track, and only run multiple trains into the city in the morning and then out of the city in the evenings, but GO is currently working on double-tracking most of the lines - the Lakeshore lines already being multi-track, with plans to expand part of Lakeshore East to four tracks to increase headway times.
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Great video! Only nit I have to pick is that GO Transit is not just Toronto but most of the Greater Toronto Area (GTA, with routes north to Barrie on Lake Simcoe, northwest to Guelph, and west to Hamilton and around Lake Ontario with the summer Bike Train to Niagara Falls. Service is further expanded by the various bus routes that GO also runs. Yes, I know that a number of the routes are only single track, and only run multiple trains into the city in the morning and then out of the city in the evenings, but GO is currently working on double-tracking most of the lines - the Lakeshore lines already being multi-track, with plans to expand part of Lakeshore East to four tracks to increase headway times.
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mark
Biased opinion- the California Double level cars are the best for comfort. I LOATHED taking the Amfleet trains when they operated on the Pacific Surfliner or California capitol corridor trains. The surfliner cars had more amenities, easier to get on and off the train, had more comfrotable seats, foot rests (nice to have when 6 feet tall, power supply at your seat, the cafe car had big large tables to sit at with friends/or room to play cars, and NEVER felt as if it were full. An Amfleet car will feel full very quickly, but the surfliner trains with the bi-level design made it feel less crowded.
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Biased opinion- the California Double level cars are the best for comfort. I LOATHED taking the Amfleet trains when they operated on the Pacific Surfliner or California capitol corridor trains. The surfliner cars had more amenities, easier to get on and off the train, had more comfrotable seats, foot rests (nice to have when 6 feet tall, power supply at your seat, the cafe car had big large tables to sit at with friends/or room to play cars, and NEVER felt as if it were full. An Amfleet car will feel full very quickly, but the surfliner trains with the bi-level design made it feel less crowded.
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Jacob
Thanks Mike, my boys (4yo and 22mo) were captivated; me too. We are here in Seattle and we of course have seen the Talgos and ridden them up North. We live a few blocks away from King Street station and see Amtrak, Sounder BNSF freight and LINK light rail, or some combination at least a couple times a week. Golden Gardens beach park is also a favorite spot to trainspot and can sometimes see (or used to see) 737 fuselages coming down from Everett to the Renton Boeing plant. Anyway thanks for the great content!
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Thanks Mike, my boys (4yo and 22mo) were captivated; me too. We are here in Seattle and we of course have seen the Talgos and ridden them up North. We live a few blocks away from King Street station and see Amtrak, Sounder BNSF freight and LINK light rail, or some combination at least a couple times a week. Golden Gardens beach park is also a favorite spot to trainspot and can sometimes see (or used to see) 737 fuselages coming down from Everett to the Renton Boeing plant. Anyway thanks for the great content!
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metronorth6131
YOU MEAN EGG SHAPED. AMFLEETS LOOK LIKE EGGS. Also Amfleet IIs are not uncommon on the Empire Service. And if you go on river rail photo on Instagram, there is a pic of a view liner combo. The Superliner diners can be seen also in Philadelphia and oddly once seen being pulled behind a City Sprinter. DID YOU SEE ME ON METRO NORTH WHILE YOU WERE ON THE EAST COAST(if you know what I mean. Also which of my sister shorelines did you see. The Shoreliner I cars have names.
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YOU MEAN EGG SHAPED. AMFLEETS LOOK LIKE EGGS. Also Amfleet IIs are not uncommon on the Empire Service. And if you go on river rail photo on Instagram, there is a pic of a view liner combo. The Superliner diners can be seen also in Philadelphia and oddly once seen being pulled behind a City Sprinter. DID YOU SEE ME ON METRO NORTH WHILE YOU WERE ON THE EAST COAST(if you know what I mean. Also which of my sister shorelines did you see. The Shoreliner I cars have names.
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ffairlane57
The Bombardier Multi-Level is my favorite car. Used by NJ Transit, MARC, and Montreal commuter. Seats are pretty decent. I love sitting in the lower level because of less rocking, and they offer slightly more privacy because of the seat height and ceiling height. You can snuggle in your seat and read a book. They are 2X2 seating, so you never have to deal with the dreaded middle seat.
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The Bombardier Multi-Level is my favorite car. Used by NJ Transit, MARC, and Montreal commuter. Seats are pretty decent. I love sitting in the lower level because of less rocking, and they offer slightly more privacy because of the seat height and ceiling height. You can snuggle in your seat and read a book. They are 2X2 seating, so you never have to deal with the dreaded middle seat.
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Riyan
The Talgo cars' trucks are the same design as the new Acela's for the same reason. The only difference is that the trucks have two wheels but they share two cars. EDIT: Those Briteline cars are coming to Amtrak! I can't wait! Also, Amtrak has seemed to make friends with Siemens lately with the ACS-64 and SC-44. Also, thx for adding the MBTA cars at the end I'm a MA kid: )
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The Talgo cars' trucks are the same design as the new Acela's for the same reason. The only difference is that the trucks have two wheels but they share two cars. EDIT: Those Briteline cars are coming to Amtrak! I can't wait! Also, Amtrak has seemed to make friends with Siemens lately with the ACS-64 and SC-44. Also, thx for adding the MBTA cars at the end I'm a MA kid: )
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Chris
Love the Kawasaki MARC III sets. They started service when I was commuting to work in DC and I spent a lot of time on them on the MARC Penn Line. Now, MARC is also using the same newer Bombardier Bilevel cars, a few years after NJ Transit started using them. I'm not as much of a fan. The stairways between levels are narrower than on the Kawasaki sets, as are the seats.
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Love the Kawasaki MARC III sets. They started service when I was commuting to work in DC and I spent a lot of time on them on the MARC Penn Line. Now, MARC is also using the same newer Bombardier Bilevel cars, a few years after NJ Transit started using them. I'm not as much of a fan. The stairways between levels are narrower than on the Kawasaki sets, as are the seats.
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Equestrian
Great Video! i just wanted to point out a couple things you missed, 1, the bombardier coaches now have two types of cab car, and 2 you left out the Silverliner electric fleet used on SEPTA Denver RTD and the Colorado Railcar coaches on WES, just letting you know, great video still! i always enjoy your train talks
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Great Video! i just wanted to point out a couple things you missed, 1, the bombardier coaches now have two types of cab car, and 2 you left out the Silverliner electric fleet used on SEPTA Denver RTD and the Colorado Railcar coaches on WES, just letting you know, great video still! i always enjoy your train talks
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Guest
I believe the plan for the Viaggios in California is to have them form 7-car trainsets and replace the comet sets (14 cars) and have the rest replace Amtrak borrowed cars ( Surfliner Amfleet set) and to have the rest displace California Cars and send the California Cars to the Surfliner, to increase service levels.
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I believe the plan for the Viaggios in California is to have them form 7-car trainsets and replace the comet sets (14 cars) and have the rest replace Amtrak borrowed cars ( Surfliner Amfleet set) and to have the rest displace California Cars and send the California Cars to the Surfliner, to increase service levels.
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