Venomous Lionfish Oceans BBC Earth
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Date: 2020-08-24
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Midnightxi
The purpose of the video failed at the end when he said there is nothing we can do but sit back and watch.
Options: Promoting killing them and eating the safely while mentioning how great the taste is, is one of the best ways of combating them that we have available. secondly, sterilizing and releasing them back into the ocean is another option (potentially harmful in the beginning, but will subside and kill their numbers when the males shoot blanks.
Here in Minnesota, Lake Superior has a prehistoric sea lamprey that decimated fish populations like the lionfish is doing. However. We are combating and turning the tables on them. By 1. Sterilizing the males and releasing them back, 2. lampricide killing them where they spawn in shallow waterways/rivers/streams.
Think about it, we as humans can decimate any animal/fish population in a matter of days/weeks, an incentive to kill anything will bring people in droves, if we literally setup vendors along the coast paying X number of per head you capture and turn in, let alone having another vendor next to the other vendor, showing how to filet the fish safely and having a cooking demo where people can taste the fish cooked. It would be eradicated in less than a few weeks.
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The purpose of the video failed at the end when he said there is nothing we can do but sit back and watch.
Options: Promoting killing them and eating the safely while mentioning how great the taste is, is one of the best ways of combating them that we have available. secondly, sterilizing and releasing them back into the ocean is another option (potentially harmful in the beginning, but will subside and kill their numbers when the males shoot blanks.
Here in Minnesota, Lake Superior has a prehistoric sea lamprey that decimated fish populations like the lionfish is doing. However. We are combating and turning the tables on them. By 1. Sterilizing the males and releasing them back, 2. lampricide killing them where they spawn in shallow waterways/rivers/streams.
Think about it, we as humans can decimate any animal/fish population in a matter of days/weeks, an incentive to kill anything will bring people in droves, if we literally setup vendors along the coast paying X number of per head you capture and turn in, let alone having another vendor next to the other vendor, showing how to filet the fish safely and having a cooking demo where people can taste the fish cooked. It would be eradicated in less than a few weeks.
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Midnightxi
How to eradicate the lionfish:
1. Sterilization
2. Stations along the coast Paying x per head you turn in
3. Show how to catch & handle them safely
4. Demo stations showing how to filet safetly
5. Demo to taste the fileted fish
6. (optional if available) Sterilize the fish and release back
Think about it, we as humans can decimate any animal/fish population in a matter of days/weeks, an incentive to kill anything will bring people in droves, if we literally setup vendors along the coast paying X number of per head you capture and turn in, let alone having another vendor showing how to filet the fish safely and have a cooking demo where people can taste the fish cooked. It would be eradicated in less than a few weeks.
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How to eradicate the lionfish:
1. Sterilization
2. Stations along the coast Paying x per head you turn in
3. Show how to catch & handle them safely
4. Demo stations showing how to filet safetly
5. Demo to taste the fileted fish
6. (optional if available) Sterilize the fish and release back
Think about it, we as humans can decimate any animal/fish population in a matter of days/weeks, an incentive to kill anything will bring people in droves, if we literally setup vendors along the coast paying X number of per head you capture and turn in, let alone having another vendor showing how to filet the fish safely and have a cooking demo where people can taste the fish cooked. It would be eradicated in less than a few weeks.
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Pimpmastahanhduece
People have used that method before. Bringing in invasive predators almost always brings more harm than good. You have bugs so you release rodents, then you release hawks that dont migrate, then you release snakes that raid nests, then winter kills off the snakes. Not that simple. What if the snakes kill all the important native birds?
All I'm really suggesting are things like a catalyzing virus for certain behavior traits that will help out threatened native species like know their feeding habits.
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People have used that method before. Bringing in invasive predators almost always brings more harm than good. You have bugs so you release rodents, then you release hawks that dont migrate, then you release snakes that raid nests, then winter kills off the snakes. Not that simple. What if the snakes kill all the important native birds?
All I'm really suggesting are things like a catalyzing virus for certain behavior traits that will help out threatened native species like know their feeding habits.
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dttruon
i believe you when you said people can die from a lionfish sting, even if there's no reported death caused by lionfish on record. my father was a fisherman in vietnam. his fellow crewman died of a sting from a lionfish. of course, in vietnam, unlike here in america, dont keep records of fatalities due to occupation hazards; nor does it have epi-pen to be administered to prevent anaphylactic shock. please understand that vietnam is a bass-ackward country, so it falls short on medicines & records.
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i believe you when you said people can die from a lionfish sting, even if there's no reported death caused by lionfish on record. my father was a fisherman in vietnam. his fellow crewman died of a sting from a lionfish. of course, in vietnam, unlike here in america, dont keep records of fatalities due to occupation hazards; nor does it have epi-pen to be administered to prevent anaphylactic shock. please understand that vietnam is a bass-ackward country, so it falls short on medicines & records.
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Pimpmastahanhduece
To me, when we might develop a virus to engineer life, I feel that its the right vector to do simple things like make the native fish adapt to avoiding invasive species. I really dont think we can stop invasive species but if we can cull and act, we can buy ecosystems time to adapt with emphasis and priority on cornerstone species. Give civilization another thousand years, life will adapt perfectly to us, it just depends on us how many species are preserved to fill those new niches.
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To me, when we might develop a virus to engineer life, I feel that its the right vector to do simple things like make the native fish adapt to avoiding invasive species. I really dont think we can stop invasive species but if we can cull and act, we can buy ecosystems time to adapt with emphasis and priority on cornerstone species. Give civilization another thousand years, life will adapt perfectly to us, it just depends on us how many species are preserved to fill those new niches.
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Amarix89
Funny thing is, that wasn't a lie. Trust me, I'm not one to go lurking on Youtube and make smartass remarks to look cool (and I'm not implying that is what you are doing, either. Perhaps he did go into anaphylactic shock; I had nothing to do with the matter, considering I was working more in the rodent isle in the store at that time, so all I saw was the sting and the DOA record. So no, I'm not lying; so, try not to be so brusque. And compared to a beesting? . Right.
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Funny thing is, that wasn't a lie. Trust me, I'm not one to go lurking on Youtube and make smartass remarks to look cool (and I'm not implying that is what you are doing, either. Perhaps he did go into anaphylactic shock; I had nothing to do with the matter, considering I was working more in the rodent isle in the store at that time, so all I saw was the sting and the DOA record. So no, I'm not lying; so, try not to be so brusque. And compared to a beesting? . Right.
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dttruon
but i am curious as to how you ever saw that doa record? did the coroner/paramedic sign the certificate & handed it to just any employee instead of the owner/father of the victim? did the owner pass it around and/or parade it? please clarify this. i just find it hard to imagine how insensitive the people involved were. considering the fact that you write in perfect english, that tells me you're from an advanced western country, i. e. us, england, canada, etc.
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but i am curious as to how you ever saw that doa record? did the coroner/paramedic sign the certificate & handed it to just any employee instead of the owner/father of the victim? did the owner pass it around and/or parade it? please clarify this. i just find it hard to imagine how insensitive the people involved were. considering the fact that you write in perfect english, that tells me you're from an advanced western country, i. e. us, england, canada, etc.
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Bob
You know what we can do about it - ask for it on menus, the world is such that it can be caught in the Caribbean and within 24hrs be on a plate in a UK restaurant. The more we do to encourage the consumption of a very widely available invasive species the better the management of that population becomes, we make a lot of the overfishing of cod for example, how about we make a lot of the under-utilisation of a good eating fish!
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You know what we can do about it - ask for it on menus, the world is such that it can be caught in the Caribbean and within 24hrs be on a plate in a UK restaurant. The more we do to encourage the consumption of a very widely available invasive species the better the management of that population becomes, we make a lot of the overfishing of cod for example, how about we make a lot of the under-utilisation of a good eating fish!
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Amarix89
2: 02 That fool better not stick his hands in its face like that. I used to work in a pet store that sold actual lionfish, and one of the owners' sons was stung by lionfish and didn't realize it. The store carried antidote, but the kid didn't think to take it. About 10 minutes after that sting he dropped dead, and this guy sticks his hand down in there with no fear, lmao.
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2: 02 That fool better not stick his hands in its face like that. I used to work in a pet store that sold actual lionfish, and one of the owners' sons was stung by lionfish and didn't realize it. The store carried antidote, but the kid didn't think to take it. About 10 minutes after that sting he dropped dead, and this guy sticks his hand down in there with no fear, lmao.
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kalliyah
to engineer life. that sounds like a very good idea. but couldn't we just take predators of the lion fish or invading species, adapt them to them environment and release them. in the hopes that they breed and mostly kill off the loin fish/invasive species? though there are many what ifs, it could work. sorry for spelling I'm only 12
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to engineer life. that sounds like a very good idea. but couldn't we just take predators of the lion fish or invading species, adapt them to them environment and release them. in the hopes that they breed and mostly kill off the loin fish/invasive species? though there are many what ifs, it could work. sorry for spelling I'm only 12
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