Genetics and The Modern Synthesis: Crash Course History of Science #35
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Date: 2022-04-04
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Not sure I believe the apolitical statement, sometimes you aren't informed enough to take a political stance on any given topic, acknowledging that isn't pro-status quo so much as an admittance of your weakness in that area. It's definitely possible to do scientific research absense of political agenda (though obvious bias might still play in) and that absense of agenda is what people mean when they say that their research is bipartisan or apolitical, and the idea that the truth is politically motivated is often used to dismiss it in the cases of climate change and evolution.
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Not sure I believe the apolitical statement, sometimes you aren't informed enough to take a political stance on any given topic, acknowledging that isn't pro-status quo so much as an admittance of your weakness in that area. It's definitely possible to do scientific research absense of political agenda (though obvious bias might still play in) and that absense of agenda is what people mean when they say that their research is bipartisan or apolitical, and the idea that the truth is politically motivated is often used to dismiss it in the cases of climate change and evolution.
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Alex
Science is political due to some non-scientists is high positions who fervently deny empirical observation in favour of an encompassing ideological framework. To disagree with such a framework automatically make one's studies contentious to _some_ degree, even if only perceived to be in opposition. Vavilov was seen as a threat to the inflexible Stalinist dogma because he seemed to disagree with the ideals of Marx despite the real observations of his work.
Science is therefore forced to be political in opposition to the force of anti-intellectualism.
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Science is political due to some non-scientists is high positions who fervently deny empirical observation in favour of an encompassing ideological framework. To disagree with such a framework automatically make one's studies contentious to _some_ degree, even if only perceived to be in opposition. Vavilov was seen as a threat to the inflexible Stalinist dogma because he seemed to disagree with the ideals of Marx despite the real observations of his work.
Science is therefore forced to be political in opposition to the force of anti-intellectualism.
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Anton
My great-grandfather was a soviet geneticist and Morgan's student. He was against Lysenko and after he wrote an article for an international scientific magazine telling that Lysenko is not a real scientist he was fired and put through sham trials and courts. He had to hide from NKVD in Moscow and died soon of a heart attack. True story. I still have his old microscope.
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My great-grandfather was a soviet geneticist and Morgan's student. He was against Lysenko and after he wrote an article for an international scientific magazine telling that Lysenko is not a real scientist he was fired and put through sham trials and courts. He had to hide from NKVD in Moscow and died soon of a heart attack. True story. I still have his old microscope.
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Liping
We should be grateful to Lysenko as he very clearly crippled Soviet agriculture. This single act has been though of by many historians to have doomed the Soviet Union from the 30s and 40s onward. The Soviets were always obliged to buy a large part of their agricultural needs from the international market, a situation worse than even under the Czars.
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We should be grateful to Lysenko as he very clearly crippled Soviet agriculture. This single act has been though of by many historians to have doomed the Soviet Union from the 30s and 40s onward. The Soviets were always obliged to buy a large part of their agricultural needs from the international market, a situation worse than even under the Czars.
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Nathan
While lamarkian genetics are not correct in that they prioritize environment and experience over selection and of course know nothing of modern genetics, it is true that through DNA methylation experience can account for some phenotypic variation. Not defending any of the theories or practices presented, just an interesting note I thought.
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While lamarkian genetics are not correct in that they prioritize environment and experience over selection and of course know nothing of modern genetics, it is true that through DNA methylation experience can account for some phenotypic variation. Not defending any of the theories or practices presented, just an interesting note I thought.
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Christopher
I would very much like to know more about the three physicists who spoke out against lysenkoism in the Soviet Union. Who were they? how did they do it? Was their plea scientific or political?
This could be a valuable example in how to effect meaningful change from evidence based knowledge.
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I would very much like to know more about the three physicists who spoke out against lysenkoism in the Soviet Union. Who were they? how did they do it? Was their plea scientific or political?
This could be a valuable example in how to effect meaningful change from evidence based knowledge.
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Linda
Amazing to have a list that looks like this: The Modern Synthesizers composed of EB Ford published in 1931 Mendelism and Evolution, Thomas Hunt Morgan -director of the Fly Room from 911-1928, T. Dobzhansky published Genetics and the Origin of Species in 1937. who wants to add on to the list?
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Amazing to have a list that looks like this: The Modern Synthesizers composed of EB Ford published in 1931 Mendelism and Evolution, Thomas Hunt Morgan -director of the Fly Room from 911-1928, T. Dobzhansky published Genetics and the Origin of Species in 1937. who wants to add on to the list?
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Tfin
But. there ARE racial differences in humans that matter scientifically. Diseases are science, race is genetic, genes present in certain races affect susceptibility to certain disease.
That's -disease- in the sense of dis-ease, for those that want to pick apart the meaning of the word.
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But. there ARE racial differences in humans that matter scientifically. Diseases are science, race is genetic, genes present in certain races affect susceptibility to certain disease.
That's -disease- in the sense of dis-ease, for those that want to pick apart the meaning of the word.
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Torbj-rn
I am glad you brought up social construction in this. Many who practice natural science, and most uneducated people (atleast in the west, are either forgetful or ignorant of this.
Essentialism is a bad seed that still linger within the human mind.
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I am glad you brought up social construction in this. Many who practice natural science, and most uneducated people (atleast in the west, are either forgetful or ignorant of this.
Essentialism is a bad seed that still linger within the human mind.
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Sean
-now, all systems of science are political, saying they are apolitical just means you're for the status quo, but lysenkoism wasn't even science anymore-
excuse me crash course but what politics does climate change or chemical evolution support?
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-now, all systems of science are political, saying they are apolitical just means you're for the status quo, but lysenkoism wasn't even science anymore-
excuse me crash course but what politics does climate change or chemical evolution support?
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