How a Single Feather Changed the Course of History: How Conduction & Induction Were Discovered
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Date: 2022-12-27
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Daemon
Point of contention i noticed while re-watching and taking notes. Was there such a person such as a scientist in Newton's time? I think not. These men were Natural Philosophers. The concept of the scientist is a 20th century construct. Therefore, referring to these Natural Philosophers as scientists is a historical inaccuracy.
This is a very interesting tale as it speaks of the human nature of scientists/Natural Philosophers and how their egos can interfere with the advancement of science. And the fact that the members of the Royal Society were more concerned with this alleged force Newton discovered, I have to wonder if it wasn't driven by celebrity in some way. The Great Newton of the Institution known as The Royal Society versus some poor cloth dyer. It was likely as much a question of class as anything else swaying the minds of the Natural Philosophers of the day as they tended to be wealthy gentlemen of status themselves. The prickly Newton, says much about his lack of inner peace and to dismiss something you didn't understand as just a parlor trick, begs the question; was Newton driven by curiosity or by ego at this point in his life? For a truly curious person would be far less likely to just dismiss it. Even if driven by ego to dismiss it in public, they would in secret be curious still and carry out some investigations and then maybe even take credit for this great new discovery. But no, Newton blackballed it. It's a classic case of that Max Planck truism, for new scientific truths to take hold, old scientists have to die. Though, in this case, it was for a new scientific truth to get published an old Natural Philosopher by the name of Newton had to die.
There is this tendency today to give too much authority to institutions and institutional science. We are taught by institutions that Newton discovered the force called gravity. In truth Newton observed an effect and assumed a force due to a materialist reductionist mechanistic reasoning and provided a value that made this reasoning work called the gravitational constant. But hey, its the great Newton and his math works out, so there must be a force called gravity. Let's ignore this little parlor trick that defies gravity and causes feathers to levitate, to float, to exhibit buoyancy. Did the electric virtue change the mass of the feather so that it was lighter than air? No. So how did this little parlor trick defy great Newton's force of gravity? What possible relation is there between electric charge and the effect called gravity?
The long and constant persuasion that all the force of nature are mutually dependent having one common origin, or rather, being different manifestations of one fundamental power has often made me think on the possibility of establishing by experiment a connection between gravity and electricity. No terms could exaggerate the value of the relation they would establish. Michael Faraday
So, like the emperor proudly strutting about in his pretend outfit, modern institutional science wears a belief that gravity driven by mass rules the universe, meanwhile, in their model of the atom, 99% of mass still eludes them and they hope to find it in the Higg's Field. Or do they have faith that they will find it there? Does this not bother anyone else?
A few decades later, Coulomb would also come up with an inverse square equation for the electrostatic force similar to Newton's gravity. Einstein's equivalency equation first appeared as M=E/C2. E as energy, the ability to do work, fundamentally is the electrostatic force. It is what drives the behavior of charged particles. How do they behave? They have spin and magnetic fields. Funny that, the Earth spins and has a magnetic field. Kelvin even estimated an electrostatic potential of 300, 000 volts between the Q+ ionosphere and Q- earth. In this the ionosphere is a virtual anode to Earth's cathode producing a virtual capacitor. Atmospheric pressure and weather are effects of this electric virtue transferring between the spherical plates of this charged particle called earth. Should we also mention the polarized nature of the Van Alan Belts and how all this is engulfed by a greater magnetosphere centered on the sun?
No, I think I have said enough, but I will leave you with this. Is gravity a force as Newton assumed, a field(GR) as Einstein claims or a misunderstood effect of other known forces?
You decide.
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Point of contention i noticed while re-watching and taking notes. Was there such a person such as a scientist in Newton's time? I think not. These men were Natural Philosophers. The concept of the scientist is a 20th century construct. Therefore, referring to these Natural Philosophers as scientists is a historical inaccuracy.
This is a very interesting tale as it speaks of the human nature of scientists/Natural Philosophers and how their egos can interfere with the advancement of science. And the fact that the members of the Royal Society were more concerned with this alleged force Newton discovered, I have to wonder if it wasn't driven by celebrity in some way. The Great Newton of the Institution known as The Royal Society versus some poor cloth dyer. It was likely as much a question of class as anything else swaying the minds of the Natural Philosophers of the day as they tended to be wealthy gentlemen of status themselves. The prickly Newton, says much about his lack of inner peace and to dismiss something you didn't understand as just a parlor trick, begs the question; was Newton driven by curiosity or by ego at this point in his life? For a truly curious person would be far less likely to just dismiss it. Even if driven by ego to dismiss it in public, they would in secret be curious still and carry out some investigations and then maybe even take credit for this great new discovery. But no, Newton blackballed it. It's a classic case of that Max Planck truism, for new scientific truths to take hold, old scientists have to die. Though, in this case, it was for a new scientific truth to get published an old Natural Philosopher by the name of Newton had to die.
There is this tendency today to give too much authority to institutions and institutional science. We are taught by institutions that Newton discovered the force called gravity. In truth Newton observed an effect and assumed a force due to a materialist reductionist mechanistic reasoning and provided a value that made this reasoning work called the gravitational constant. But hey, its the great Newton and his math works out, so there must be a force called gravity. Let's ignore this little parlor trick that defies gravity and causes feathers to levitate, to float, to exhibit buoyancy. Did the electric virtue change the mass of the feather so that it was lighter than air? No. So how did this little parlor trick defy great Newton's force of gravity? What possible relation is there between electric charge and the effect called gravity?
The long and constant persuasion that all the force of nature are mutually dependent having one common origin, or rather, being different manifestations of one fundamental power has often made me think on the possibility of establishing by experiment a connection between gravity and electricity. No terms could exaggerate the value of the relation they would establish. Michael Faraday
So, like the emperor proudly strutting about in his pretend outfit, modern institutional science wears a belief that gravity driven by mass rules the universe, meanwhile, in their model of the atom, 99% of mass still eludes them and they hope to find it in the Higg's Field. Or do they have faith that they will find it there? Does this not bother anyone else?
A few decades later, Coulomb would also come up with an inverse square equation for the electrostatic force similar to Newton's gravity. Einstein's equivalency equation first appeared as M=E/C2. E as energy, the ability to do work, fundamentally is the electrostatic force. It is what drives the behavior of charged particles. How do they behave? They have spin and magnetic fields. Funny that, the Earth spins and has a magnetic field. Kelvin even estimated an electrostatic potential of 300, 000 volts between the Q+ ionosphere and Q- earth. In this the ionosphere is a virtual anode to Earth's cathode producing a virtual capacitor. Atmospheric pressure and weather are effects of this electric virtue transferring between the spherical plates of this charged particle called earth. Should we also mention the polarized nature of the Van Alan Belts and how all this is engulfed by a greater magnetosphere centered on the sun?
No, I think I have said enough, but I will leave you with this. Is gravity a force as Newton assumed, a field(GR) as Einstein claims or a misunderstood effect of other known forces?
You decide.
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Daemon
I would love to have access to your sources, you pull up some doozy information. This point about Newton and his ilk not having anything to do with silly parlor tricks as they were more interested in this alleged force called gravity for which Newton had no mechanism pricked up my ears. Did Newton discover a force called gravity or did he discover an effect called gravity?
How is gravity a real force when it cannot be metered like electricity and magnetism? If you want to know what gravity is, understand the cause of the gravitational constant, the first god of modern science.
It is a curious thing that throughout the history of science, what would often start off as a silly trick with no meaning at all according to the intelligentsia of the day often ends up having profound consequences for the journey of science at a later date.
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I would love to have access to your sources, you pull up some doozy information. This point about Newton and his ilk not having anything to do with silly parlor tricks as they were more interested in this alleged force called gravity for which Newton had no mechanism pricked up my ears. Did Newton discover a force called gravity or did he discover an effect called gravity?
How is gravity a real force when it cannot be metered like electricity and magnetism? If you want to know what gravity is, understand the cause of the gravitational constant, the first god of modern science.
It is a curious thing that throughout the history of science, what would often start off as a silly trick with no meaning at all according to the intelligentsia of the day often ends up having profound consequences for the journey of science at a later date.
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jvsnyc
I was distracted by your saying PRINS ih-pa, maybe he is pedantic by when Neil DeGrasse Tyson refers to his favorite book (which he did on a program about Great Books) he always said prin KIP i-a.
anyway, the timeline sounds seriously wrong near the beginning. The stuff about Charles I and II is quite correct, but things seem to go off when you say 25 years after 1687. you didn't mean 1712, did you? Anyway, overall, fascinating, and included stuff I did NOT know that is important. I just think the timeline got warped a bit in the first half. yikes, that was meant to apply to the prior video.
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I was distracted by your saying PRINS ih-pa, maybe he is pedantic by when Neil DeGrasse Tyson refers to his favorite book (which he did on a program about Great Books) he always said prin KIP i-a.
anyway, the timeline sounds seriously wrong near the beginning. The stuff about Charles I and II is quite correct, but things seem to go off when you say 25 years after 1687. you didn't mean 1712, did you? Anyway, overall, fascinating, and included stuff I did NOT know that is important. I just think the timeline got warped a bit in the first half. yikes, that was meant to apply to the prior video.
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BRJ
Hi Kathy. It is an interesting thought that insulators like silk etc can hold a static charge but a metal wire can not. Also Interesting that an insulator can not only hold a static charge but can also conduct that charge along its length. Hmm! So an insulator can be a conductor of a static charge. Where do I stop with this? Am I going to suggest that static electricity is a different form of electricity to electricity that flows in a wire? well that's a logical conclusion but I know it cant be correct. Please tell. Bran Plummer in New Zealand
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Hi Kathy. It is an interesting thought that insulators like silk etc can hold a static charge but a metal wire can not. Also Interesting that an insulator can not only hold a static charge but can also conduct that charge along its length. Hmm! So an insulator can be a conductor of a static charge. Where do I stop with this? Am I going to suggest that static electricity is a different form of electricity to electricity that flows in a wire? well that's a logical conclusion but I know it cant be correct. Please tell. Bran Plummer in New Zealand
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Robin
I have a workshop for repairing electric bicycles and scooters in the garage.
In our home we have a bird cage with two budgies. During the dry winter months, the small budgie feathers stick to my clothing, and then to the plastic of the electric scooters.
But, my wife is at least happy that I am out of the house, and out of her hair.
If I stay in my garage, then she will stay in her kitchen.
And we have been happy together for 43 years.
As long as I don't trample birdie feathers into the house.
: -)
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I have a workshop for repairing electric bicycles and scooters in the garage.
In our home we have a bird cage with two budgies. During the dry winter months, the small budgie feathers stick to my clothing, and then to the plastic of the electric scooters.
But, my wife is at least happy that I am out of the house, and out of her hair.
If I stay in my garage, then she will stay in her kitchen.
And we have been happy together for 43 years.
As long as I don't trample birdie feathers into the house.
: -)
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Da
0: 28 - Wikipedia has his named spelled Stephen Gray.
For a person who has done so much for humanity, it would be good if we could get onto the same page about how he spelled his first name.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. How is it that I have lived so many decades of my life without having learned about the Father of Electricity. He and his story should be known by everyone. Everyone who uses anything electrical. Which is just about everyone.
Brilliant series! This is blowing my mind with each episode.
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0: 28 - Wikipedia has his named spelled Stephen Gray.
For a person who has done so much for humanity, it would be good if we could get onto the same page about how he spelled his first name.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. How is it that I have lived so many decades of my life without having learned about the Father of Electricity. He and his story should be known by everyone. Everyone who uses anything electrical. Which is just about everyone.
Brilliant series! This is blowing my mind with each episode.
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SCFRHC
Please forgive me if I am being slow and obtuse but I am unclear how charges were being created to be studied. The impression I get is that someone is rubbing some amber furiously with some woolen material while somehow transferring the static charge elsewherebut that is probably from your first video and I have missed the jump to suspended youngsters being statically charged for public entertainment
Which isnt to say that I am not learning a lot and find you and your work entertaining so thanks!
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Please forgive me if I am being slow and obtuse but I am unclear how charges were being created to be studied. The impression I get is that someone is rubbing some amber furiously with some woolen material while somehow transferring the static charge elsewherebut that is probably from your first video and I have missed the jump to suspended youngsters being statically charged for public entertainment
Which isnt to say that I am not learning a lot and find you and your work entertaining so thanks!
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Timothy
Was he an associate of Nikola Tesla where I should say was Nikola Tesla associate of him?
I never heard this story very interesting also very interesting to hear about the competition in the gatekeeping going on in the scientific community I guess the people with the money have always controlled the flow of information who gets credited who controls the narrative thanks for bringing this all to the front for all of us to see thank you
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Was he an associate of Nikola Tesla where I should say was Nikola Tesla associate of him?
I never heard this story very interesting also very interesting to hear about the competition in the gatekeeping going on in the scientific community I guess the people with the money have always controlled the flow of information who gets credited who controls the narrative thanks for bringing this all to the front for all of us to see thank you
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John
As an electrician currently learning things like Ohm's Law and such in apprentice classes, I found this very enlightening. Never heard of Gray in my classes.
As a man with a juvenile mind, all I could think was So, he stroked something to learn something, and then started choking chickens. Sorry, natural progression of a delinquent.
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As an electrician currently learning things like Ohm's Law and such in apprentice classes, I found this very enlightening. Never heard of Gray in my classes.
As a man with a juvenile mind, all I could think was So, he stroked something to learn something, and then started choking chickens. Sorry, natural progression of a delinquent.
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Robert
OMG Kathy another super video, many thanks! You really have done your research, I had never heard of Steven Gray until you enlightened me! Also, Newton - smart guy but what a. We can only wonder at how much science he stifled through his jealous mean spirit.
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OMG Kathy another super video, many thanks! You really have done your research, I had never heard of Steven Gray until you enlightened me! Also, Newton - smart guy but what a. We can only wonder at how much science he stifled through his jealous mean spirit.
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Ashutosh
Nice video.
I believe u were using a pvc pipe and rubbing it with ur bare hand (dry weather, I guess) to charge it? Also, what kind of thread did u use and what kind of thread can work for this demo. cotton sewing thread. jute thread?
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Nice video.
I believe u were using a pvc pipe and rubbing it with ur bare hand (dry weather, I guess) to charge it? Also, what kind of thread did u use and what kind of thread can work for this demo. cotton sewing thread. jute thread?
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DaddyFlip
I thought this was going to be about Forrest Gump, who changed more history with a feather in his life and made more money than all of the folks mentioned in this video combined. And that's all I have to say about that.
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I thought this was going to be about Forrest Gump, who changed more history with a feather in his life and made more money than all of the folks mentioned in this video combined. And that's all I have to say about that.
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James
If this lady isn't a college professor then she should be. I had a biology instructor in college who was so enthusiastic about his subject he made me interested. Same deal here. Well done, Kathy!
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If this lady isn't a college professor then she should be. I had a biology instructor in college who was so enthusiastic about his subject he made me interested. Same deal here. Well done, Kathy!
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Pixxel
I can ask any question? Any question? Ok, who killed JR? But seriously, this is all brand new information to me. I love physics and history too, but I had no idea about any of this. Thank you!
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I can ask any question? Any question? Ok, who killed JR? But seriously, this is all brand new information to me. I love physics and history too, but I had no idea about any of this. Thank you!
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esecallum
you would get more views and clicks and money if you applied makeup and looked presentable instead of this i just got up from bed plain jane look. you might even get marriage proposals.
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you would get more views and clicks and money if you applied makeup and looked presentable instead of this i just got up from bed plain jane look. you might even get marriage proposals.
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Robert
What you say here implies that von Guernicke never figured anything had flowed between his stinky ball and the light objects that started being repelled by instead of attracted to it.
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What you say here implies that von Guernicke never figured anything had flowed between his stinky ball and the light objects that started being repelled by instead of attracted to it.
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Raphael
I am in love with Kathy's videos. I just started watching them. I feel like I discovered a treasure. Amazing stories, connections and interpretation. Thank you. raphael nyc
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I am in love with Kathy's videos. I just started watching them. I feel like I discovered a treasure. Amazing stories, connections and interpretation. Thank you. raphael nyc
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Robert
Not only are your videos interesting by combining the history and evolution of the science, you have a fun side to you that is not too much, nor too little. Thank you.
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Not only are your videos interesting by combining the history and evolution of the science, you have a fun side to you that is not too much, nor too little. Thank you.
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Animalntelligence
Seems like they must have been close to a prototype telegraph although it would still take a century before a practical telegraph was invented.
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Seems like they must have been close to a prototype telegraph although it would still take a century before a practical telegraph was invented.
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Dana
Loved it! I liked to learn that Newton had his faults too.
I will share this with my science students: do not revere persons, only science!
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Loved it! I liked to learn that Newton had his faults too.
I will share this with my science students: do not revere persons, only science!
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