The myth of Hades and Persephone - Iseult Gillespie
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Date: 2022-04-14
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Charlie
Persephone was NOT hopeless in all this.
Her mother was controlling and kept her hidden in her garden. Hades was loving and treated her as his equal in every version I've read.
There are many different versions of this myth and none of them keep Persephone hopeless, they always add that she was a badass in Hades (the underworld. Guiding the dead, creating new realms.
Also, as a goddess she wouldn't need food for sustinence and wouldn't have eaten the pomegranate seeds without knowing full well what that would mean.
Many versions show she ate the seeds on purpose in order to stay with her loving husband who gave her freedom.
Some say Hades tricked her, or even Hermes did, but I don't think so. She'd know what eating food from the underworld would do.
This is a very very very basic retelling of the myth and leaves out a lot. If even say gets some of the details wrong.
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Persephone was NOT hopeless in all this.
Her mother was controlling and kept her hidden in her garden. Hades was loving and treated her as his equal in every version I've read.
There are many different versions of this myth and none of them keep Persephone hopeless, they always add that she was a badass in Hades (the underworld. Guiding the dead, creating new realms.
Also, as a goddess she wouldn't need food for sustinence and wouldn't have eaten the pomegranate seeds without knowing full well what that would mean.
Many versions show she ate the seeds on purpose in order to stay with her loving husband who gave her freedom.
Some say Hades tricked her, or even Hermes did, but I don't think so. She'd know what eating food from the underworld would do.
This is a very very very basic retelling of the myth and leaves out a lot. If even say gets some of the details wrong.
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JellyfishInATeacup
while I love the animation and narration, this story is a very modern and untrue version of the story. in original texts as told by Homer, Hades and persefonies marriage was basically an arranged marriage as Zeus the father gave permission. and while at first she objected, persephoni saw that Hades was hardworking and faithful and chose to remain in the underworld willingly for half the year (winter. this can be evidenced by the fact that persephonoes name has been found in micanain inscriptions ( the predaceccor to aincent greece) and she was described as dread persephonoes basically a full on underworld goddess. so in short, she was not dragged to the underworld and forced to stay, she chose to stay as Hades was basically the best person for her, being faithfull for their marriage (unlike EVERY OTHER GOD)
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while I love the animation and narration, this story is a very modern and untrue version of the story. in original texts as told by Homer, Hades and persefonies marriage was basically an arranged marriage as Zeus the father gave permission. and while at first she objected, persephoni saw that Hades was hardworking and faithful and chose to remain in the underworld willingly for half the year (winter. this can be evidenced by the fact that persephonoes name has been found in micanain inscriptions ( the predaceccor to aincent greece) and she was described as dread persephonoes basically a full on underworld goddess. so in short, she was not dragged to the underworld and forced to stay, she chose to stay as Hades was basically the best person for her, being faithfull for their marriage (unlike EVERY OTHER GOD)
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AzraelWolf
Here s my theory:
At first, Persephone angry at Hades for taking her away from her mother Demeter.
Time went by, little by little Persephone understands of Hades s actions and his heart. She grew to fell in love with him, but she still love her mother. Persephone was in a conflict between love of her mother or Hades.
Hades realize Persephone missed her mother Demeter so he give her a free will choice is to return her mother and never see him again or eat the fruit to stay in the Underworld with him. Persephone eat the fruit to be with him.
Zeus has an idea: Persephone can be with Hades only on fall and winter. She be with her mother Demeter only on spring and summer.
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Here s my theory:
At first, Persephone angry at Hades for taking her away from her mother Demeter.
Time went by, little by little Persephone understands of Hades s actions and his heart. She grew to fell in love with him, but she still love her mother. Persephone was in a conflict between love of her mother or Hades.
Hades realize Persephone missed her mother Demeter so he give her a free will choice is to return her mother and never see him again or eat the fruit to stay in the Underworld with him. Persephone eat the fruit to be with him.
Zeus has an idea: Persephone can be with Hades only on fall and winter. She be with her mother Demeter only on spring and summer.
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Panda
This is a heavily edited version of the tale. Hades asked for her hand in marriage from her father Zeus as a show of respect to both of them, it was Zeus that said hey, um, Demeter is a bit of a helicopter parent so. yeah you have my go ahead, just grab her when her mother isn't around. Persephone and Hades actually got along and had the best relationship among the gods.
If anything Demeter was in charge of the seasons, She made the plants grow out of happiness when her daughter came back. Persephone's one and only true role is the ruler of the underworld alongside Hades. Her full title is Kora before marriage (meaning maiden) and Dread Persephone after marriage.
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This is a heavily edited version of the tale. Hades asked for her hand in marriage from her father Zeus as a show of respect to both of them, it was Zeus that said hey, um, Demeter is a bit of a helicopter parent so. yeah you have my go ahead, just grab her when her mother isn't around. Persephone and Hades actually got along and had the best relationship among the gods.
If anything Demeter was in charge of the seasons, She made the plants grow out of happiness when her daughter came back. Persephone's one and only true role is the ruler of the underworld alongside Hades. Her full title is Kora before marriage (meaning maiden) and Dread Persephone after marriage.
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Vesperbelle
Going to join the general Chorus here and say that I prefer versions of this story that acknowledge that - while their relationship doesn't meet modern standards of consent - Hades and Persephone are by far the happiest and healthiest couple of the Olympians. Persephone was a co-regent with Hades, respected and recognized as the Queen of the Underworld, a position she preferred to being the idealized perfect child of an overbearing mother.
She is Fairest Persephone come Beltane, Dread Persephone come Samhain, and of these two roles she greatly prefers the latter.
Overly Sarcastic Productions does this story and their relationship much better.
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Going to join the general Chorus here and say that I prefer versions of this story that acknowledge that - while their relationship doesn't meet modern standards of consent - Hades and Persephone are by far the happiest and healthiest couple of the Olympians. Persephone was a co-regent with Hades, respected and recognized as the Queen of the Underworld, a position she preferred to being the idealized perfect child of an overbearing mother.
She is Fairest Persephone come Beltane, Dread Persephone come Samhain, and of these two roles she greatly prefers the latter.
Overly Sarcastic Productions does this story and their relationship much better.
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Rodiacreed
This has to be the first time that I have a problem with TED-ED video. Hades is actually one of the few greek gods that is good. He never causes drama like Zeus does and is willing to help heroes if they prove themsleves and doesn't punish mortals for no reason. The kidnapping aside he treated Persephone well and was generous with her and he agreed to send her to her mother and offered her the pomegranate which she ate it willingly to prove to him that she would return.
Also Hades has a beautiful palace in the Underworld with halls full of gold and gems, it certainly isn't a bleak and depressing place like you guys are depicting here.
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This has to be the first time that I have a problem with TED-ED video. Hades is actually one of the few greek gods that is good. He never causes drama like Zeus does and is willing to help heroes if they prove themsleves and doesn't punish mortals for no reason. The kidnapping aside he treated Persephone well and was generous with her and he agreed to send her to her mother and offered her the pomegranate which she ate it willingly to prove to him that she would return.
Also Hades has a beautiful palace in the Underworld with halls full of gold and gems, it certainly isn't a bleak and depressing place like you guys are depicting here.
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Eowyn
Persephone actually fell in love with Hades after a while and she likes being a queen of death (who wouldn't like it? Your partner is god king of cool edgy place, he never ever cheats on you (in contrast any other god is cheating on their partner. Usually with mortals. coughing Zeus coughing, he admires and loves you and he has cute sweet puppy named Spot (yes Cerberus in Greek means Spot)
Persephone actually has eaten the pomegranate because she wants to be with him, but her mother wants to be with her daughter so Hades agreed on therms of half and half year to be ok with his mother in law.
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Persephone actually fell in love with Hades after a while and she likes being a queen of death (who wouldn't like it? Your partner is god king of cool edgy place, he never ever cheats on you (in contrast any other god is cheating on their partner. Usually with mortals. coughing Zeus coughing, he admires and loves you and he has cute sweet puppy named Spot (yes Cerberus in Greek means Spot)
Persephone actually has eaten the pomegranate because she wants to be with him, but her mother wants to be with her daughter so Hades agreed on therms of half and half year to be ok with his mother in law.
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Nirmit
Might I add that if anyone is to blame, it is Zeus since he was approached by a lovelorn Hades and willingly granted Hades permission to marry Persephone, as well as the fact that she was gifted a pomegranate by Hades who told her not to be sorrowful as she was about to depart back to Demeter, since they had grown to love each other during her time in the underworld. This is one of the few relationships in Greek Mythology that actually did work out, so it annoys me when I see a bastardised version of Hades according to Christian belief.
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Might I add that if anyone is to blame, it is Zeus since he was approached by a lovelorn Hades and willingly granted Hades permission to marry Persephone, as well as the fact that she was gifted a pomegranate by Hades who told her not to be sorrowful as she was about to depart back to Demeter, since they had grown to love each other during her time in the underworld. This is one of the few relationships in Greek Mythology that actually did work out, so it annoys me when I see a bastardised version of Hades according to Christian belief.
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Dorothy
. the amount of people who have read the internet version of the myth. Like. real quick guys. Whose ancient author says they were in love in the end?
Bc the rereading of those myths i believe genuinely love to focus on love and whatever and tend to forget that this myth is first and foremost about the traumatic experience of the separations between a mother and daughter in the ancient world. But I wonder why the most popular reading makes it all about the man in the story being a nice guy actually.
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. the amount of people who have read the internet version of the myth. Like. real quick guys. Whose ancient author says they were in love in the end?
Bc the rereading of those myths i believe genuinely love to focus on love and whatever and tend to forget that this myth is first and foremost about the traumatic experience of the separations between a mother and daughter in the ancient world. But I wonder why the most popular reading makes it all about the man in the story being a nice guy actually.
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