I Figured Out Fantastic Four MID CREDIT Scene - Avengers: Doomsday
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Date: 2025-08-02
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DjEricSuprasl
The movie was great, i loved it! but there is few things i wasn't totaly in with:
- Pedro Pascal. too depressed version of RR, Krasiansky would have been so much better!
- CGI's on Franklin at the end need some work!
- RR being barely stretched out by galactus and about to snap was a bit ridiculous. he can't be that little elastic.
- Female Silver Surfer. only usefull for Johnny's lame plan to turn her to work, should have done a real silver surfer and work a little more on a way to turn him
- The way the time is passing. it seems that when Galactus is coming, it's just few weeks to be there as they show him directly behind Jupiter, and it looks like they build these telporting machines within weeks when it should have take years, as for galactus to come. They should have not have Sue give birth so soon and make it happened on earth while they were working on the plan to save earth.
- The Ben/teacher attempt of a story was totally useless. they didn't know what to do with Ben in this movie so they give him that love interest that went nowhere
- Johnny's plan was possible because he could translate those records (how di they ear those sounds in the first place to record them, that's a mystery) but what he translate was the SS tongue. but he aid it was the screams of all the galactus victims she sacrificed for her world. or they speak their language and it's her planet and her people, or it's not from her planet nor her tongue.
After we got amazing scenes with the silver surfer but you didn't need to take somebody famous to play that part. like any comedian doing his first movie could have done the few lines she had to say. Galactus was amazing, the action scnes were great but Sue was clearly the main character here as she's the one we saw the most of her powers, as RR can barely strech, BG just lifted a car and broke some pillars, and Johnny he flew around quite a bit but we didn't see his full powers. i felt they were all nerfed so Sue can shine. It's a team she should have been all powerfull and have their hero moment.
I like Thunderbolts better but still loved the movie. But they could have done better.
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The movie was great, i loved it! but there is few things i wasn't totaly in with:
- Pedro Pascal. too depressed version of RR, Krasiansky would have been so much better!
- CGI's on Franklin at the end need some work!
- RR being barely stretched out by galactus and about to snap was a bit ridiculous. he can't be that little elastic.
- Female Silver Surfer. only usefull for Johnny's lame plan to turn her to work, should have done a real silver surfer and work a little more on a way to turn him
- The way the time is passing. it seems that when Galactus is coming, it's just few weeks to be there as they show him directly behind Jupiter, and it looks like they build these telporting machines within weeks when it should have take years, as for galactus to come. They should have not have Sue give birth so soon and make it happened on earth while they were working on the plan to save earth.
- The Ben/teacher attempt of a story was totally useless. they didn't know what to do with Ben in this movie so they give him that love interest that went nowhere
- Johnny's plan was possible because he could translate those records (how di they ear those sounds in the first place to record them, that's a mystery) but what he translate was the SS tongue. but he aid it was the screams of all the galactus victims she sacrificed for her world. or they speak their language and it's her planet and her people, or it's not from her planet nor her tongue.
After we got amazing scenes with the silver surfer but you didn't need to take somebody famous to play that part. like any comedian doing his first movie could have done the few lines she had to say. Galactus was amazing, the action scnes were great but Sue was clearly the main character here as she's the one we saw the most of her powers, as RR can barely strech, BG just lifted a car and broke some pillars, and Johnny he flew around quite a bit but we didn't see his full powers. i felt they were all nerfed so Sue can shine. It's a team she should have been all powerfull and have their hero moment.
I like Thunderbolts better but still loved the movie. But they could have done better.
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klusm-ns4kj
What if the incursion happens between 3 universes: 818, 616, and the X-Men universe Also, Monica Rambeau is in the X-Men universe now, so she will try and research how to travel back from the X-Men universe to 616 and finds out about the incursion between 828, 616, and the X-Men universe. She tries to reach 616 to tell them what is happening but couldn't. Meanwhile, in 616, they see the F4 and Doom approaching. They think it's some bad guys and try to fight, but ultimately they find out that their universe is in danger.
Also, in the ending of Multiverse of Madness, Clea tells Dr. Strange that he caused an incursion. This is the same incursion as the doomsday one. He knows about Chavez, so Strange brings Chavez to the Avengers and finds the F4, Doom, and Avengers there. They find out Chavez can travel through the multiverse. Also, they contact Captain Marvel to tell her that the universe is in danger. She finds out about Chavez, and then they try to find Rambeau. They find Rambeau in the X-Men universe, and then the X-Men also become part of the movies.
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What if the incursion happens between 3 universes: 818, 616, and the X-Men universe Also, Monica Rambeau is in the X-Men universe now, so she will try and research how to travel back from the X-Men universe to 616 and finds out about the incursion between 828, 616, and the X-Men universe. She tries to reach 616 to tell them what is happening but couldn't. Meanwhile, in 616, they see the F4 and Doom approaching. They think it's some bad guys and try to fight, but ultimately they find out that their universe is in danger.
Also, in the ending of Multiverse of Madness, Clea tells Dr. Strange that he caused an incursion. This is the same incursion as the doomsday one. He knows about Chavez, so Strange brings Chavez to the Avengers and finds the F4, Doom, and Avengers there. They find out Chavez can travel through the multiverse. Also, they contact Captain Marvel to tell her that the universe is in danger. She finds out about Chavez, and then they try to find Rambeau. They find Rambeau in the X-Men universe, and then the X-Men also become part of the movies.
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siddsharma472
My theory about anchor being is. spiderman. more importantly peter parker. we have been told that spiderman will play an important role in secret wars. how will that happen. like he's a street level hero so how does he play an important role Answer is peter parker in the anchor being in MCU. imagine doom who has RDJs face trying to kill parker cause he's an anchor being. imagine the horror on Spider-Man. adding to it. let me remind u, no one knows who peter parker is anymore. and all the multiverse and Incursions began with spiderman spell. 2 spells. 1st one that brought the villains. not significant but the 2nd one. the onw that made everyone forget of peters identity. that spell was soo strong that it made the universe thinnk the anchor being. who is Peter Parker not spiderman. is dead hence thr Incursions. so that is how Spider-Man will play an important role in secret wars. where doom with RDJs face will hunt down peter and peter with horror that his Tomy stark is hunting him. tell me how u feel about this theory
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My theory about anchor being is. spiderman. more importantly peter parker. we have been told that spiderman will play an important role in secret wars. how will that happen. like he's a street level hero so how does he play an important role Answer is peter parker in the anchor being in MCU. imagine doom who has RDJs face trying to kill parker cause he's an anchor being. imagine the horror on Spider-Man. adding to it. let me remind u, no one knows who peter parker is anymore. and all the multiverse and Incursions began with spiderman spell. 2 spells. 1st one that brought the villains. not significant but the 2nd one. the onw that made everyone forget of peters identity. that spell was soo strong that it made the universe thinnk the anchor being. who is Peter Parker not spiderman. is dead hence thr Incursions. so that is how Spider-Man will play an important role in secret wars. where doom with RDJs face will hunt down peter and peter with horror that his Tomy stark is hunting him. tell me how u feel about this theory
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awesomedude8641
My theory:
As you said, Doom arrives at Baxter building to ask for help regarding Incursion but it isn't with Earth 616 but it is with the X men universe. Reed and Doom disagree on how to save their planet: Reed maybe suggests using the bridge the same way he planned to use to transport Earth in FFFS but Doom disagrees with him and insists on destroying the X men Earth. Hence the fight between Doom and X men. Most probably Doom succeeded and Earth 828 is saved but Incursion is a continuous process and next incursion is with Earth 616.
In my opinion this entire part will act as the same way Thanos attacked on the Asgard Ship - displaying the power of Antagonist. How doom uses his power combining magic and science to defeat the X men.
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My theory:
As you said, Doom arrives at Baxter building to ask for help regarding Incursion but it isn't with Earth 616 but it is with the X men universe. Reed and Doom disagree on how to save their planet: Reed maybe suggests using the bridge the same way he planned to use to transport Earth in FFFS but Doom disagrees with him and insists on destroying the X men Earth. Hence the fight between Doom and X men. Most probably Doom succeeded and Earth 828 is saved but Incursion is a continuous process and next incursion is with Earth 616.
In my opinion this entire part will act as the same way Thanos attacked on the Asgard Ship - displaying the power of Antagonist. How doom uses his power combining magic and science to defeat the X men.
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MerajKhan-lw5xb
Your theory is rubbish because Earth 616 will colide with the earth where Monica rambeau because that's how they'll show Avengers vs X-Men and won't ask for help he is freaking DR Doom did Thanos asked for help I mean come on it's common sense Remember the opening scene of Infinity war so I am 100% sure that Doomsday will also open more brutal and danger then that DR Doom will kidnap both Franklin and suzan and the other reed, ben and Jhonny will go in every universe and search them that's how they'll go to earth 616. Bro your theory is rubbish a 12 year old boy can make a better theory than you and yes it is marvel they have shot scene just for trailer so yes they can change the set design for one or two scene
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Your theory is rubbish because Earth 616 will colide with the earth where Monica rambeau because that's how they'll show Avengers vs X-Men and won't ask for help he is freaking DR Doom did Thanos asked for help I mean come on it's common sense Remember the opening scene of Infinity war so I am 100% sure that Doomsday will also open more brutal and danger then that DR Doom will kidnap both Franklin and suzan and the other reed, ben and Jhonny will go in every universe and search them that's how they'll go to earth 616. Bro your theory is rubbish a 12 year old boy can make a better theory than you and yes it is marvel they have shot scene just for trailer so yes they can change the set design for one or two scene
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panavsharma6068
Just a theory: I’ve been thinking what if when Mr. Fantastic teleported Galactus away from Earth, he didn’t destroy him, but instead sent him to a different Earth in the multiverse Since Galactus was weak and starving, he may have consumed that Earth to survive.
As a result, that Earth was destroyed, potentially triggering a multiversal incursion. Doctor Doom, whose Earth may have been the one lost, could have traced the event back to Mr. Fantastic’s actions. In an effort to restore his own world, Doom might have traveled to Earth-838 in search of Franklin Richards the only being powerful enough to recreate or restore universes.
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Just a theory: I’ve been thinking what if when Mr. Fantastic teleported Galactus away from Earth, he didn’t destroy him, but instead sent him to a different Earth in the multiverse Since Galactus was weak and starving, he may have consumed that Earth to survive.
As a result, that Earth was destroyed, potentially triggering a multiversal incursion. Doctor Doom, whose Earth may have been the one lost, could have traced the event back to Mr. Fantastic’s actions. In an effort to restore his own world, Doom might have traveled to Earth-838 in search of Franklin Richards the only being powerful enough to recreate or restore universes.
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canadian_lad
Here's my theory, I think DOOM of F4 universe possesses IronMan's body from that same universe, maybe cuz he looks like RDJ as well, and maybe it's crucial to do so in order to take over the 616 universe (which is the MAIN universe in the multiverse, maybe cuz IronMan was anchor being in 616 universe and without an anchor being in the MAIN universe of the multiverse, DOOM's plan would work.
And since Marvel loves to play meta, I think they're gonna reveal the real actor playing Doctor Doom is none other than the most popular fancast.
Mads Mikkelsen.
Would love to know what you think: )
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Here's my theory, I think DOOM of F4 universe possesses IronMan's body from that same universe, maybe cuz he looks like RDJ as well, and maybe it's crucial to do so in order to take over the 616 universe (which is the MAIN universe in the multiverse, maybe cuz IronMan was anchor being in 616 universe and without an anchor being in the MAIN universe of the multiverse, DOOM's plan would work.
And since Marvel loves to play meta, I think they're gonna reveal the real actor playing Doctor Doom is none other than the most popular fancast.
Mads Mikkelsen.
Would love to know what you think: )
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canadian_lad
I think doom is trying to get frankil richards to heal his face. And it is still disfigured.
Ik healing his face in the beginning of the movie itself seems bad. But it could be that he tries and he coudnt. And later in the movie when franklin gets more control of his powers then he heals it giving full RDJ look. It could even be that RDJs face isnt Dooms actual face but which he gets from franklin when he reaches earth 616.
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I think doom is trying to get frankil richards to heal his face. And it is still disfigured.
Ik healing his face in the beginning of the movie itself seems bad. But it could be that he tries and he coudnt. And later in the movie when franklin gets more control of his powers then he heals it giving full RDJ look. It could even be that RDJs face isnt Dooms actual face but which he gets from franklin when he reaches earth 616.
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kausaru. _
I love your vids Lad, just sorry to say but the thumbnail is a bit. you know, i saw it minute before i enter the theater ro watch F4, I'm not really pissed tho but i know some people out there may. so i guess it's good for you and for us to not. spoil it as the thumbnail, better just put spoiler alert as the thumbnail and let the video title tell us what it is.
Sorry for my bad english, love you Canadian Lads
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I love your vids Lad, just sorry to say but the thumbnail is a bit. you know, i saw it minute before i enter the theater ro watch F4, I'm not really pissed tho but i know some people out there may. so i guess it's good for you and for us to not. spoil it as the thumbnail, better just put spoiler alert as the thumbnail and let the video title tell us what it is.
Sorry for my bad english, love you Canadian Lads
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FlamingoKicker
What do you make of Latveria's empty UN chair in the early shot where they are remembering the time Sue negotiated the peace treaty with the Subterraneans I wouldn't expect to actually see Doom himself sitting in that seat anyway but why woud they completely not attend Maybe I wasn't that surprised to see Doom mysef because they have been talking about him doing this verty thing for over a year.
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What do you make of Latveria's empty UN chair in the early shot where they are remembering the time Sue negotiated the peace treaty with the Subterraneans I wouldn't expect to actually see Doom himself sitting in that seat anyway but why woud they completely not attend Maybe I wasn't that surprised to see Doom mysef because they have been talking about him doing this verty thing for over a year.
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ferarias1up
What if Read is the one behind the cloak And he’s from another dimension escaped from doom and took his outfit and came into this version of he’s son’s world. That’s why he’s touching his face, but he’s from a different dimension where his son and his wife are under control and he knows that this version of his son has the power he needs to help them or was sent to retrieve him for doom.
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What if Read is the one behind the cloak And he’s from another dimension escaped from doom and took his outfit and came into this version of he’s son’s world. That’s why he’s touching his face, but he’s from a different dimension where his son and his wife are under control and he knows that this version of his son has the power he needs to help them or was sent to retrieve him for doom.
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canadian_lad
man i feel you are in the wrong direction,
i guess that sue and franklin would end up getting kidnapped by doom or manipulated and they end up in the x-men universe and the remaining family of reed, jonny n ben comes to earth 616 and then there is xmen vs avengers
doom also manipulates the xmen or somehow convense them by telling destroying earth 616 would save their universe.
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man i feel you are in the wrong direction,
i guess that sue and franklin would end up getting kidnapped by doom or manipulated and they end up in the x-men universe and the remaining family of reed, jonny n ben comes to earth 616 and then there is xmen vs avengers
doom also manipulates the xmen or somehow convense them by telling destroying earth 616 would save their universe.
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hk8060
makes sense and it would be a perfect place to establish backstory with reed and viktor. The only thing different I would add is that the final incursion is between 616 and 10005. So maybe they go to 616, the heroes trust doom since he has the same face as tony and than they go to 10005 from there to stop the incursion. Thats when doom screws them over in the fight and kidnaps franklin
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makes sense and it would be a perfect place to establish backstory with reed and viktor. The only thing different I would add is that the final incursion is between 616 and 10005. So maybe they go to 616, the heroes trust doom since he has the same face as tony and than they go to 10005 from there to stop the incursion. Thats when doom screws them over in the fight and kidnaps franklin
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floydboi96
My idea is this isn't OUR Fantastic Four, they are going to join forces with Doom to fight our MCU, hence all the OP characters we got and forgot. This FF will be in 2-3 more movies. Sue will become Malice, Reed will become his evil version. Franklin will age up and stop them for the greater good. And an adult actor will join our MCU and disappear for like 10 years.
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My idea is this isn't OUR Fantastic Four, they are going to join forces with Doom to fight our MCU, hence all the OP characters we got and forgot. This FF will be in 2-3 more movies. Sue will become Malice, Reed will become his evil version. Franklin will age up and stop them for the greater good. And an adult actor will join our MCU and disappear for like 10 years.
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billyhorn7886
Since the mid credits scene is 5 years from the start of the movie(which is 4 years from when they got their power) it’s possible they’re already in the early 70s so it’s possible they also had the orange color theme to go with that decades decorom on top of the points you listed. All that’s missing is wood paneling walls lol
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Since the mid credits scene is 5 years from the start of the movie(which is 4 years from when they got their power) it’s possible they’re already in the early 70s so it’s possible they also had the orange color theme to go with that decades decorom on top of the points you listed. All that’s missing is wood paneling walls lol
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ZenoxPlayz1009
13: 02 I just hope they don't incorporate iron man in doomsday. I want a movie about Dr doom not iron man. As much as i love iron man, I'd very much want to see doctor doom as just, doctor doom. I don't want him to be a variant of tony, i don't want him to be a different timeline version of tony i just want victor von doom.
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13: 02 I just hope they don't incorporate iron man in doomsday. I want a movie about Dr doom not iron man. As much as i love iron man, I'd very much want to see doctor doom as just, doctor doom. I don't want him to be a variant of tony, i don't want him to be a different timeline version of tony i just want victor von doom.
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jordangalle1751
2: 15 I agree. People love to forget that Johnny is more than a ladies' man hothead, that Ben was the pilot for a reason. Seeing Johnny being incredibly intelligent felt more honorable to his comic origins. Seeing Ben fly that ship with such precision AND seeing him fully accepting of what he has become.
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2: 15 I agree. People love to forget that Johnny is more than a ladies' man hothead, that Ben was the pilot for a reason. Seeing Johnny being incredibly intelligent felt more honorable to his comic origins. Seeing Ben fly that ship with such precision AND seeing him fully accepting of what he has become.
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MrHR36
Discussion Oh my god, we can't think what Russo Brother's gonna make RDJr as big-bad in Doom's Day. I wonder about other versions of Doom might come in Sacred timeline and fight themselves. Or may be our RDJr has already fought them and now he is the only one Doom remains to fight with Avengers.
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Discussion Oh my god, we can't think what Russo Brother's gonna make RDJr as big-bad in Doom's Day. I wonder about other versions of Doom might come in Sacred timeline and fight themselves. Or may be our RDJr has already fought them and now he is the only one Doom remains to fight with Avengers.
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tyrionstark
1: 41 is why we really lile it. Marvel started losing it with the jokes and trying to be funny in every single movie after Endgame. We, as fans, don't want nor need to cheap jokes. Give us great cinema. That's it. Don't ever bring Taika Waititi or anyone like him back again.
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1: 41 is why we really lile it. Marvel started losing it with the jokes and trying to be funny in every single movie after Endgame. We, as fans, don't want nor need to cheap jokes. Give us great cinema. That's it. Don't ever bring Taika Waititi or anyone like him back again.
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HunterTheHero
For me, if Galactus returns in Doomsday, I imagine that Doom is going finally exchange Franklin to him, and use the baby's powers to turn Galactus' ship into a universe-destroying superweapon. The plot would not only be a race against time, but a race to rescue Franklin.
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For me, if Galactus returns in Doomsday, I imagine that Doom is going finally exchange Franklin to him, and use the baby's powers to turn Galactus' ship into a universe-destroying superweapon. The plot would not only be a race against time, but a race to rescue Franklin.
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