Small Details In The Cloverfield Paradox You Missed
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Seems like they just made this up as they went along and didn't really have a good outline of the overall Cloverfield story arch, just like the Lost and Star Wars story archs. Just jump to a new dimension, and then they can say anything goes and not have to try as hard writing a coherent and grounded story. Netflix threw money at the wall on this one, and style over substance is Abrams MO. The guy gets way too much credit for creating half-baked stories that lead nowhere. Waste of a stellar cast in my opinion and felt like a wannabe Black Mirror episode.
Date: 2020-07-14
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repzard99
I never understood why everyone freaks out bout answers, and states a film sucks since it lacked them. First of all, Abrams loves to leave things open. Look at LOST, The Star Trek Timeline wipe, Super 8, even Mission Impossible 3, they're running around to stop an enemy from getting a TOP SECRET device codenamed a Rabbit's Foot and it isn't until the very end we realized we were never told what the thing even does! and it ends on that note. Because it doesn't matter. I always thought Cloverfield would be a new story each time with little easter eggs in each. (My favorite part and its a small detail, is seeing where they put in the word cloverfield in the title, its like the 007 gunbarrel sequence, its somewhere lol. And what they did with the Dimensions plot line is this recent Paradox was brilliant since it opens up whole new possibilities of where they can take it. These franchises can work because even if you don't like one of them, you can't argue it ruined the series for ever after (which fanboys luv to say nowadays) since its something different each time. I wasn't too worried bout where the monster came from in the 1st, I liked the film characters we're going through the disaster as it unfolded from their perspective, they didn't have answers so neither did i. THAT was the fun of it, I wasn't just watching it, i was experiencing it with them. In 10C. Lane again i was just trying to figure if this guy was insane or not, and it was quite a rollercoaster of Yes and no, until holy shit something did go down, some kind of invasion maybe? and now we learn each movie is a different universe basically, its short, sweet and it works. Some people will except it and let it go, the others will call it a cheap way to get out of it. Well you know what? stop needing everything spelled out for you! Use your damn imagination!
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I never understood why everyone freaks out bout answers, and states a film sucks since it lacked them. First of all, Abrams loves to leave things open. Look at LOST, The Star Trek Timeline wipe, Super 8, even Mission Impossible 3, they're running around to stop an enemy from getting a TOP SECRET device codenamed a Rabbit's Foot and it isn't until the very end we realized we were never told what the thing even does! and it ends on that note. Because it doesn't matter. I always thought Cloverfield would be a new story each time with little easter eggs in each. (My favorite part and its a small detail, is seeing where they put in the word cloverfield in the title, its like the 007 gunbarrel sequence, its somewhere lol. And what they did with the Dimensions plot line is this recent Paradox was brilliant since it opens up whole new possibilities of where they can take it. These franchises can work because even if you don't like one of them, you can't argue it ruined the series for ever after (which fanboys luv to say nowadays) since its something different each time. I wasn't too worried bout where the monster came from in the 1st, I liked the film characters we're going through the disaster as it unfolded from their perspective, they didn't have answers so neither did i. THAT was the fun of it, I wasn't just watching it, i was experiencing it with them. In 10C. Lane again i was just trying to figure if this guy was insane or not, and it was quite a rollercoaster of Yes and no, until holy shit something did go down, some kind of invasion maybe? and now we learn each movie is a different universe basically, its short, sweet and it works. Some people will except it and let it go, the others will call it a cheap way to get out of it. Well you know what? stop needing everything spelled out for you! Use your damn imagination!
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Mrdead
Hate to be pedantic about this. Okay maybe not. They got fundamental aspects of this wrong. I know it's an alternate universe but it looks like simple physics is still somewhat intact.
If you notice on the space station some portions use centrifugal spin to simulate gravity. These units are essentially discs that spin around.
On the interior shots you can see wide rooms with low ceilings and windows on the outer curved walls. Up is the top of the flat disc while down would be the other flat side of the disc, while the outer rim of the disc is supposed to be the outer wall with windows.
But in order to take advantage of centrifugal forces they wouldn't be orientated that way. Up would actually be the center of the disc, while down would be the outer edge. As the disc spins the centrifugal force would be felt as moving outward from the center to the outer rim. They got this right in 2001 A Space Odyssey as you see Bowman jogging around the cabin, for example.
The windows would not be on the outside rim of the disc because that would be the floor. But in once scene you can clearly see Mina flying out of the window that was shot out on the outside rim of the disc. It makes no sense.
Also, the scene where Tam froze to death. The airlock filled with water and the outside lock breached. The moment that outside door lost it's seal the water would have, with great force, been forced out into the near vacuum of space where it would have done two things. First it would have explosively boiled into a gas and then it would have frozen as a vapor.
Astronauts have actually done this when they needed to urinate in spacesuits and then released it into space.
What movies like this need to do is throw a few bucks at an unemployed teacher and use them as science advisors or something.
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Hate to be pedantic about this. Okay maybe not. They got fundamental aspects of this wrong. I know it's an alternate universe but it looks like simple physics is still somewhat intact.
If you notice on the space station some portions use centrifugal spin to simulate gravity. These units are essentially discs that spin around.
On the interior shots you can see wide rooms with low ceilings and windows on the outer curved walls. Up is the top of the flat disc while down would be the other flat side of the disc, while the outer rim of the disc is supposed to be the outer wall with windows.
But in order to take advantage of centrifugal forces they wouldn't be orientated that way. Up would actually be the center of the disc, while down would be the outer edge. As the disc spins the centrifugal force would be felt as moving outward from the center to the outer rim. They got this right in 2001 A Space Odyssey as you see Bowman jogging around the cabin, for example.
The windows would not be on the outside rim of the disc because that would be the floor. But in once scene you can clearly see Mina flying out of the window that was shot out on the outside rim of the disc. It makes no sense.
Also, the scene where Tam froze to death. The airlock filled with water and the outside lock breached. The moment that outside door lost it's seal the water would have, with great force, been forced out into the near vacuum of space where it would have done two things. First it would have explosively boiled into a gas and then it would have frozen as a vapor.
Astronauts have actually done this when they needed to urinate in spacesuits and then released it into space.
What movies like this need to do is throw a few bucks at an unemployed teacher and use them as science advisors or something.
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SkyH
I'm gonna throw my theory here before watching the video. It will be short. Here we go:
I believe there are 3 earths in 3 different realities. Earth 1, from 2008, Earth 2 from 2016 and Earth 3 from 2018. I think the strange series of events that were happening to the crew was the universe trying to fix itself by killing them. I think the crew from earth 3 got sent into earth 1 after activating the machine. But in earth 1, the crew was already dead (The scene from movie 1 where a spaceship crashed into the ocean) So think of it like this: A simple glass is earth/universe, that glass is filled with water, the water is all things and events that happened in earth 1. All the people, objects, animals, all the stars, all the atoms and planets. Now think of the crew as milk. So when the crew from earth 3 arrived in earth 1. All the milk and water got mixed up, all the atoms and particles were messed up. So the glass/water tries to get rid of the milk to rebalance everything again. Idk, just my thought i didnt take timeline and real science into consideration.
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I'm gonna throw my theory here before watching the video. It will be short. Here we go:
I believe there are 3 earths in 3 different realities. Earth 1, from 2008, Earth 2 from 2016 and Earth 3 from 2018. I think the strange series of events that were happening to the crew was the universe trying to fix itself by killing them. I think the crew from earth 3 got sent into earth 1 after activating the machine. But in earth 1, the crew was already dead (The scene from movie 1 where a spaceship crashed into the ocean) So think of it like this: A simple glass is earth/universe, that glass is filled with water, the water is all things and events that happened in earth 1. All the people, objects, animals, all the stars, all the atoms and planets. Now think of the crew as milk. So when the crew from earth 3 arrived in earth 1. All the milk and water got mixed up, all the atoms and particles were messed up. So the glass/water tries to get rid of the milk to rebalance everything again. Idk, just my thought i didnt take timeline and real science into consideration.
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BIOSHOCKFOXX
The falling object seen on Cloverfield can't be the same escape pod/shuttle from station, since in Paradox the monster shows up right next to it after the pod dived in the clouds, and if that monster is so much bigger, that it reaches above clouds, and if it would have been the same pod, we would have been able to see really, really huge ass monster at the beach, but it was nowhere to be seen.
Best theory yet, that explains why we haven't seen stuff that ties to each movie directly, is that each movie takes place in their own alternative universe, the 2008 Cloverfield might be the one showing the universe that happened on the alternative Earth where original Sheppard station traveled to, the one where their Sheppard station got sabotaged. Or the third universe from where Mundy's hand was being controlled, since that wasn't same universe with the one to which station traveled to.
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The falling object seen on Cloverfield can't be the same escape pod/shuttle from station, since in Paradox the monster shows up right next to it after the pod dived in the clouds, and if that monster is so much bigger, that it reaches above clouds, and if it would have been the same pod, we would have been able to see really, really huge ass monster at the beach, but it was nowhere to be seen.
Best theory yet, that explains why we haven't seen stuff that ties to each movie directly, is that each movie takes place in their own alternative universe, the 2008 Cloverfield might be the one showing the universe that happened on the alternative Earth where original Sheppard station traveled to, the one where their Sheppard station got sabotaged. Or the third universe from where Mundy's hand was being controlled, since that wasn't same universe with the one to which station traveled to.
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Brodiiie
My theory is that the other movies were caused by this movie. The guy being interviewed said that they open portals to other dimensions at different times in history. So in Cloverfeild, they opened a portal several thousand years in the past on earth, and the baby Clover got through. It then hibernated until it was awoken by the oil plant in 2008. 10 Cloverfeild Lane sends the Robot/Aliens to a dimension in 2014. And in The Cloverfeild Paradox, they send an adult Clover to their dimension in the movies present (2028. Hamiltons husband sees a Clover in the film, but it is much smaller than the one we see at the end; this means there are multiple Clovers in this dimension. Or it could mean that Clovers grow incredibly fast, or the Clover we see at the end brought its children with it.
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My theory is that the other movies were caused by this movie. The guy being interviewed said that they open portals to other dimensions at different times in history. So in Cloverfeild, they opened a portal several thousand years in the past on earth, and the baby Clover got through. It then hibernated until it was awoken by the oil plant in 2008. 10 Cloverfeild Lane sends the Robot/Aliens to a dimension in 2014. And in The Cloverfeild Paradox, they send an adult Clover to their dimension in the movies present (2028. Hamiltons husband sees a Clover in the film, but it is much smaller than the one we see at the end; this means there are multiple Clovers in this dimension. Or it could mean that Clovers grow incredibly fast, or the Clover we see at the end brought its children with it.
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snakeobias
no film should have to rely on easter eggs to be considered good. you dont have to remove this movie too far from the cloverfield universe to realise that it was a poorly constructed film. I agree that watching this video makes sense, but thats like saying the film makers are making idiots out of all of those who dont go nerd digging to find out tiny details in spin off games and inactive twitter accounts etc.
I can imagine some up and coming new generation hipster director with no real talent or genuine vision (like Abrams) making a prequel of The Godfather shot in the entire perspective the orange salesman on the street, forcing us to read cannon to connect it to the the Corleone universe.
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no film should have to rely on easter eggs to be considered good. you dont have to remove this movie too far from the cloverfield universe to realise that it was a poorly constructed film. I agree that watching this video makes sense, but thats like saying the film makers are making idiots out of all of those who dont go nerd digging to find out tiny details in spin off games and inactive twitter accounts etc.
I can imagine some up and coming new generation hipster director with no real talent or genuine vision (like Abrams) making a prequel of The Godfather shot in the entire perspective the orange salesman on the street, forcing us to read cannon to connect it to the the Corleone universe.
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TH3C001
It was alright, but all things Cloverfield felt tacked on. Mostly because they were. I was expecting more with the monsters, but I'm not surprised there was so little of the monster since this was originally its own movie that was kidnapped and hijacked and passed off as something else. The original Cloverfield should've honestly been left on its own. Any sequel should've been a direct, specific sequel explaining the monster or defeating it and saving the world. We didn't really need two more, beating-around-the-bush, half-hearted, -loosely-connected movies that barely had anything at all to do with the original.
I liked this movie, but it could've had a little more to do with the original.
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It was alright, but all things Cloverfield felt tacked on. Mostly because they were. I was expecting more with the monsters, but I'm not surprised there was so little of the monster since this was originally its own movie that was kidnapped and hijacked and passed off as something else. The original Cloverfield should've honestly been left on its own. Any sequel should've been a direct, specific sequel explaining the monster or defeating it and saving the world. We didn't really need two more, beating-around-the-bush, half-hearted, -loosely-connected movies that barely had anything at all to do with the original.
I liked this movie, but it could've had a little more to do with the original.
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Yokie
Not hating on the video, but some of the things stated here sounds a little inaccurate. The object falling at the end of Cloverfield 08 was already revealed to be the ChimapnzIII satellite created by the Bold Futura company, which is a subsidiary of Tagruato. It's a nod to Howard's background as a satellite tech for the Navy. But ultimately all these movies are taking place within separate dimensions showcasing various effects of the particle accelerator having on those dimensions. We've seen a total of four different versions of Earth in these films and they are almost always effected by the accelerator in different ways, at different points in time.
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Not hating on the video, but some of the things stated here sounds a little inaccurate. The object falling at the end of Cloverfield 08 was already revealed to be the ChimapnzIII satellite created by the Bold Futura company, which is a subsidiary of Tagruato. It's a nod to Howard's background as a satellite tech for the Navy. But ultimately all these movies are taking place within separate dimensions showcasing various effects of the particle accelerator having on those dimensions. We've seen a total of four different versions of Earth in these films and they are almost always effected by the accelerator in different ways, at different points in time.
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Hate
It made me a bit angry, as it messed with the established lore from the ARG, and then used a cop out explanation of they're all different dimensions, and it affected time too, so now they can just do whatever they want without having to actually explain anything. That's simply lazy storytelling, especially from a franchise we have seen such great storytelling from. As far as a standalone movie it was ok. IMO it would have been better if they just left the cloverfield part out of it, and it was it's own thing. Wouldn't have been great, but fans of the franchise would not have had such high expectations, only to be let down.
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It made me a bit angry, as it messed with the established lore from the ARG, and then used a cop out explanation of they're all different dimensions, and it affected time too, so now they can just do whatever they want without having to actually explain anything. That's simply lazy storytelling, especially from a franchise we have seen such great storytelling from. As far as a standalone movie it was ok. IMO it would have been better if they just left the cloverfield part out of it, and it was it's own thing. Wouldn't have been great, but fans of the franchise would not have had such high expectations, only to be let down.
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