Q&A 2 - Gesture vs Proportion and Time - Proko
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Date: 2022-03-14
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Thestripper
I do a few things that has helped me greatly in gesture drawing.
1. Draw big enough - if drawing too small then you will be using the movement of your wrist rather than the big flowing movements you get from using your shoulder and elbow.
2. Use really cheap paper to avoid any trace of the need to perform masterpieces every time you draw (yes yes. you will of course produce masterpiece after masterpiece but that comes later, much later. This is just exercise remember. Use cheap newsprint paper or even food wrap paper that they sell on the supermarket in rolls.
3. Practise big shapes over and over again. Do precise freehanded circles, big and small, going both clockwise and counter clockwise, do S-shapes, C-shapes, zig-zag. (use your shoulder and elbow) Fill a paper full of beautiful shapes every day.
4. Do not use more than 40 - 60 seconds per drawing as a beginner! Use a timer! In the beginning you will not get far, and this is a good thing. You will automatically adjust your pace and this is what will yield in skill. Avoid details. Gesture the head and the longest direction through your model. Gesture the shoulders angle, hips angle, leg, leg, arm, arm. No hands feet, breasts or face features at this stage. All those things will present themselves after a while if your gesture is flowing.
Draw from an online figure drawing site such as sketch daily or quickposes. Do not use more than 60 seconds! Maybe Proko has this on his site as well?
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I do a few things that has helped me greatly in gesture drawing.
1. Draw big enough - if drawing too small then you will be using the movement of your wrist rather than the big flowing movements you get from using your shoulder and elbow.
2. Use really cheap paper to avoid any trace of the need to perform masterpieces every time you draw (yes yes. you will of course produce masterpiece after masterpiece but that comes later, much later. This is just exercise remember. Use cheap newsprint paper or even food wrap paper that they sell on the supermarket in rolls.
3. Practise big shapes over and over again. Do precise freehanded circles, big and small, going both clockwise and counter clockwise, do S-shapes, C-shapes, zig-zag. (use your shoulder and elbow) Fill a paper full of beautiful shapes every day.
4. Do not use more than 40 - 60 seconds per drawing as a beginner! Use a timer! In the beginning you will not get far, and this is a good thing. You will automatically adjust your pace and this is what will yield in skill. Avoid details. Gesture the head and the longest direction through your model. Gesture the shoulders angle, hips angle, leg, leg, arm, arm. No hands feet, breasts or face features at this stage. All those things will present themselves after a while if your gesture is flowing.
Draw from an online figure drawing site such as sketch daily or quickposes. Do not use more than 60 seconds! Maybe Proko has this on his site as well?
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MrScreamingSilence
On the timing issue. Just hide the timer somehow. I record my aweful singing sometimes in hopes of improving by listening back to it and I get very nervous when I see the recording software, but when I hide it, it removes some of the pressure and I perform better.
I do draw, but I never time anything and I don't seriously practice, but I did to gesture drawings with the help of a site I can't remember the name of and whenever the timer ran out, I just went on to the next picture and the longer I did just went it, the more loose my lines became and the faster I was done with the gestures. Since it's a gesture study, it's important to not get hung up on details
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On the timing issue. Just hide the timer somehow. I record my aweful singing sometimes in hopes of improving by listening back to it and I get very nervous when I see the recording software, but when I hide it, it removes some of the pressure and I perform better.
I do draw, but I never time anything and I don't seriously practice, but I did to gesture drawings with the help of a site I can't remember the name of and whenever the timer ran out, I just went on to the next picture and the longer I did just went it, the more loose my lines became and the faster I was done with the gestures. Since it's a gesture study, it's important to not get hung up on details
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PENCIL
Hi, am a big fun of you and am learning a lot from your tutorials, can you please do a demo on how on how to apply your skills we get to other creative areas like story boarding, character design, i mean its great to draw from observation but will it be easier to create from imagination and create a composition? I would like to see you doing something from imagination and if possible a composition scene, i know you created a monster head once but a composition would be great. THANKS!
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Hi, am a big fun of you and am learning a lot from your tutorials, can you please do a demo on how on how to apply your skills we get to other creative areas like story boarding, character design, i mean its great to draw from observation but will it be easier to create from imagination and create a composition? I would like to see you doing something from imagination and if possible a composition scene, i know you created a monster head once but a composition would be great. THANKS!
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Jordan
What do you do in between -studies-? I'm a beginner and I find myself unmotivated to draw anything that's not a study or a memory drawing of what I was studying the last time I drew. If i want to draw something -fun- it's just frustrating because I haven't learned enough to execute it. And it's not that I don't enjoy the studies because it can be great, it just feels a bike with no wheels. You've said yourself that it takes years to get proficient in any one thing.
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What do you do in between -studies-? I'm a beginner and I find myself unmotivated to draw anything that's not a study or a memory drawing of what I was studying the last time I drew. If i want to draw something -fun- it's just frustrating because I haven't learned enough to execute it. And it's not that I don't enjoy the studies because it can be great, it just feels a bike with no wheels. You've said yourself that it takes years to get proficient in any one thing.
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drawing
I tend to separate both and spend time on each instead of trying to do both at once because my brain just breaks. Just bean, then just measuring, then just gesture. Then I try a longer pose with no timing and see if I improve.
I do a bit. The only initial proportion rule I start with is dividing the body in half at the crotch.
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I tend to separate both and spend time on each instead of trying to do both at once because my brain just breaks. Just bean, then just measuring, then just gesture. Then I try a longer pose with no timing and see if I improve.
I do a bit. The only initial proportion rule I start with is dividing the body in half at the crotch.
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Schemilix
I draw well enough to get paid for it yet I still regularly watch and rewatch these videos. They're helpful, positive, and inspiring. They're also a great jumping off point when I want to fix up how I draw a piece of anatomy in particular, since they sorta prime your eye to what it's looking for.
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I draw well enough to get paid for it yet I still regularly watch and rewatch these videos. They're helpful, positive, and inspiring. They're also a great jumping off point when I want to fix up how I draw a piece of anatomy in particular, since they sorta prime your eye to what it's looking for.
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Pj
I enjoyed this as always. But, ugh. that -model- guy in the chair was really quite unpleasant to look at, to say the least. .I know. forgive me, people. But, true, practice is the key that unlocks frustrations of mistakes even after years of it.
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I enjoyed this as always. But, ugh. that -model- guy in the chair was really quite unpleasant to look at, to say the least. .I know. forgive me, people. But, true, practice is the key that unlocks frustrations of mistakes even after years of it.
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Kashish
Thank you so much!
you are a great teacher. The concepts are really easy to understand when i am looking up to your videos: )
If i get stuck i watch it over and over and finally get relieved.
Thanx for teaching art beautifully
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Thank you so much!
you are a great teacher. The concepts are really easy to understand when i am looking up to your videos: )
If i get stuck i watch it over and over and finally get relieved.
Thanx for teaching art beautifully
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Darko
Does the face have gesture? Can we use gesture when drawing portraits and faces? Because Andrew Loomis talks about it in his books, but I can't seem to grasp how can you find gesture in a place where there is so much bone and static parts.
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Does the face have gesture? Can we use gesture when drawing portraits and faces? Because Andrew Loomis talks about it in his books, but I can't seem to grasp how can you find gesture in a place where there is so much bone and static parts.
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The
Also how can you enjoy the process, if what you came for in art is to make beautiful drawings? This is what motivated you in the first place. And if you make crappy drawings for a long time, how is one to enjoy this?
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Also how can you enjoy the process, if what you came for in art is to make beautiful drawings? This is what motivated you in the first place. And if you make crappy drawings for a long time, how is one to enjoy this?
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