Indicator Fishing & Preventing Drag with Tom Rosenbauer - The New Fly Fisher
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Date: 2022-05-15
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Comments and reviews: 8
Dan
One tiny point I'd make about your excellent video on indicator fishing, Tom, is that the water at the bottom of the water column -almost always- moves slower than the water at the top of the water column. The water on the surface isn't slowed down by the rocks on the bottom of the river whereas the water at the bottom is being slowed down and disturbed by them.
One place that the water at the bottom does move faster at the bottom of the river than at the top is in the tailout of a pool where the water shallows quickly. As the bottom rises at the tailout preceeding a rifle, that bottom current moves a lot faster than the water at the surface. Not all tailouts are like this but any of them are are shallowing absolutely are.
If you're not sure if the tailout you are looking at meets those criteria, cast a large orange nymph upstream of your indicator and watch it. You'll be amazed how much faster the bottom current will flow than the top in those conditions. You'll also catch more fish with nymphs in the tailout if you're aware this is happening. So that's one exception to an otherwise excellent rule.
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One tiny point I'd make about your excellent video on indicator fishing, Tom, is that the water at the bottom of the water column -almost always- moves slower than the water at the top of the water column. The water on the surface isn't slowed down by the rocks on the bottom of the river whereas the water at the bottom is being slowed down and disturbed by them.
One place that the water at the bottom does move faster at the bottom of the river than at the top is in the tailout of a pool where the water shallows quickly. As the bottom rises at the tailout preceeding a rifle, that bottom current moves a lot faster than the water at the surface. Not all tailouts are like this but any of them are are shallowing absolutely are.
If you're not sure if the tailout you are looking at meets those criteria, cast a large orange nymph upstream of your indicator and watch it. You'll be amazed how much faster the bottom current will flow than the top in those conditions. You'll also catch more fish with nymphs in the tailout if you're aware this is happening. So that's one exception to an otherwise excellent rule.
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Bernd
Hi Tom,
Nice video editing. But 5: 40 Pete K (unintenional) is demonstrating a nice wave in his fly-leg = a tailing loop. He then talks about -moving it in a straight line-. What is -it-? This is not correct anyway. -Stop at eye-level- Pete sais, but he demonstrates something else in the next forward cast. -Stopping the rod lower helps preventing tangles. - What tangles? And what was the cause of those tangles?
All in all a mix of unclear and partially wrong teaching of fly casting. Sorry, this is truly poor quality. Pete may want to aim for an instructor certification. I am sure he would learn a great deal about fly casting physics and how to teach properly.
Regards
Bernd
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Hi Tom,
Nice video editing. But 5: 40 Pete K (unintenional) is demonstrating a nice wave in his fly-leg = a tailing loop. He then talks about -moving it in a straight line-. What is -it-? This is not correct anyway. -Stop at eye-level- Pete sais, but he demonstrates something else in the next forward cast. -Stopping the rod lower helps preventing tangles. - What tangles? And what was the cause of those tangles?
All in all a mix of unclear and partially wrong teaching of fly casting. Sorry, this is truly poor quality. Pete may want to aim for an instructor certification. I am sure he would learn a great deal about fly casting physics and how to teach properly.
Regards
Bernd
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John
Holy cow the amount of people ticked about someone using an indicator is astounding.
Where legal use it man. There's nowhere in the states that says dry fly only.
Euro nymphing can be superior sure, but honestly I don't think I would have ever been able to learn fly fishing without an indicator rig. I personally find euronymphing ridiculous because you don't even make use of your fly line? Like why even bother fly fishing if all your casting is some leader and tippet and that's it.
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Holy cow the amount of people ticked about someone using an indicator is astounding.
Where legal use it man. There's nowhere in the states that says dry fly only.
Euro nymphing can be superior sure, but honestly I don't think I would have ever been able to learn fly fishing without an indicator rig. I personally find euronymphing ridiculous because you don't even make use of your fly line? Like why even bother fly fishing if all your casting is some leader and tippet and that's it.
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Heywood
They-re called bobbers. No matter how much you try to change the name.
People using bobbers and sinkers just like kids off a bridge.
Sorry for my cynicism but, I don-t think they should be legal. There is a reason certain systems are fly fishing only and skirting the regs will only increase pressure thus increasing future restrictions.
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They-re called bobbers. No matter how much you try to change the name.
People using bobbers and sinkers just like kids off a bridge.
Sorry for my cynicism but, I don-t think they should be legal. There is a reason certain systems are fly fishing only and skirting the regs will only increase pressure thus increasing future restrictions.
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Edward
Sheesh. what a bunch of whining -bobber- haters. Lighten TF up, when you guys make your own tutorial video's you can just not do it and or not teach it. I'm sticking with Tom and the New Fly Fisher. INDICATORS ROCK!
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Sheesh. what a bunch of whining -bobber- haters. Lighten TF up, when you guys make your own tutorial video's you can just not do it and or not teach it. I'm sticking with Tom and the New Fly Fisher. INDICATORS ROCK!
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KP
The first thing you have to do to master bobber fishing is to head down to Walmart and buy the three pack of the plastic, red and white bobbers. Of course you could just learn to cast, mend and drift properly.
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The first thing you have to do to master bobber fishing is to head down to Walmart and buy the three pack of the plastic, red and white bobbers. Of course you could just learn to cast, mend and drift properly.
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Rod
Im sorry but I always laugh how fly fishermen try to sound all sophisticated with everything, saying indicator when its literally just a bobber.
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Im sorry but I always laugh how fly fishermen try to sound all sophisticated with everything, saying indicator when its literally just a bobber.
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laurent
Using indicator for fly fishing? - really not in our fashion here in France - even forbidden by law -.
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Using indicator for fly fishing? - really not in our fashion here in France - even forbidden by law -.
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