86 Cheap Intel Gaming CPU Review (Pentium G7400 Benchmarks)
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Date: 2022-04-04
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Cool
2 core processors are incredibly limited and when most people will eventually want the extra headroom a 4 core would offer. Multitasking and gaming require more cores to swap applications or even just reduce bottlenecking. The 10100f is currently no more than 100 and I wish you guys would have put it in the comparison chart but the 12100f is around 110 so 20 more for a massive performance increase is much more worth it. The notion that this would help save money should not be pushed so much given that in the past these pentium processors and even the athlon processors were 50-60 and motherboards were less than 75 . The 12th gen cheapest H board is 110 and the cheapest 10th gen board is 90 while amd's got the A520 for 75 .
Maybe amd or intel should be pushing to make cheap 4 core processors rather than cutting down to 2 but honestly if I were a ryzen 1200 owner or a 10100F owner I would be golden compared to this G7400.
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2 core processors are incredibly limited and when most people will eventually want the extra headroom a 4 core would offer. Multitasking and gaming require more cores to swap applications or even just reduce bottlenecking. The 10100f is currently no more than 100 and I wish you guys would have put it in the comparison chart but the 12100f is around 110 so 20 more for a massive performance increase is much more worth it. The notion that this would help save money should not be pushed so much given that in the past these pentium processors and even the athlon processors were 50-60 and motherboards were less than 75 . The 12th gen cheapest H board is 110 and the cheapest 10th gen board is 90 while amd's got the A520 for 75 .
Maybe amd or intel should be pushing to make cheap 4 core processors rather than cutting down to 2 but honestly if I were a ryzen 1200 owner or a 10100F owner I would be golden compared to this G7400.
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MRgreen
the first few charts arent really showing much at all. you cant tell much when 80% of the other items your reviewing against are maxed out or bottle necked. comparing this chip to older hardware would be way more useful. these charts are a bit useless. we need older high end and mid range chips. the top x58 chip and above can still game at the price of these chips. there are so many chips not being sold now that would match up to this. who would buy this chip? at this price older gear is a way better value option. i would not use this chip as a starting point at all. your limited in other workloads by its small core count. if you have something with 4 cores or above i would wait until you have the money for a more solid upgrade. im dreading seeing these chips in over priced best buy, dell, hp and walmart PCs. that is this chips purpose for intel. people that dont know anything.
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the first few charts arent really showing much at all. you cant tell much when 80% of the other items your reviewing against are maxed out or bottle necked. comparing this chip to older hardware would be way more useful. these charts are a bit useless. we need older high end and mid range chips. the top x58 chip and above can still game at the price of these chips. there are so many chips not being sold now that would match up to this. who would buy this chip? at this price older gear is a way better value option. i would not use this chip as a starting point at all. your limited in other workloads by its small core count. if you have something with 4 cores or above i would wait until you have the money for a more solid upgrade. im dreading seeing these chips in over priced best buy, dell, hp and walmart PCs. that is this chips purpose for intel. people that dont know anything.
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Project
While I know that using a 3080 for these tests is a great way to get rid of as many bottlenecks as possible to test only the CPU the best you can, I'd still like to see you test (or just have a section) where you show testing the CPU against it's relevant competitors (within 100) on a low end GPU (like a 3060 or less (or a few low end GPUs)) to see where CPU power stops being the bottle neck in a lower end GPU equipped computer. A good reason for this could be to show that you (maybe) don't need to spring for the i3/R5 or i5/R7 if the Pentium or other cheaper CPU won't bottleneck your comparatively budget GPU choice. I'm a wealthy enough person that I don't need this info, but it'd be great for someone that's trying to save every dollar to know where the diminishing returns are for a CPU to pair with their GPU,
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While I know that using a 3080 for these tests is a great way to get rid of as many bottlenecks as possible to test only the CPU the best you can, I'd still like to see you test (or just have a section) where you show testing the CPU against it's relevant competitors (within 100) on a low end GPU (like a 3060 or less (or a few low end GPUs)) to see where CPU power stops being the bottle neck in a lower end GPU equipped computer. A good reason for this could be to show that you (maybe) don't need to spring for the i3/R5 or i5/R7 if the Pentium or other cheaper CPU won't bottleneck your comparatively budget GPU choice. I'm a wealthy enough person that I don't need this info, but it'd be great for someone that's trying to save every dollar to know where the diminishing returns are for a CPU to pair with their GPU,
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smakfu
For gaming (unless we re talking lightweight or retro stuff), the era of the 2 core CPU is pretty much over and, without SMT, the results are pretty dire. That s providing the game will run at all, as 4 logical processors has been an assumption for a while. That said, you can really see how impressive the IPC throughput of the Golden Cove cores are when SMT is enabled on the Pentium. That is a lot of compute for just two CPU cores. I think Intel is being a little silly by disabling SMT on the Celeron (even if the cache is suboptimal for SMT).
Given AMD seems to have stopped shipping Athlon 3000g s (for the last few years, a fantastic low-end solution with a workable iGPU), it s nice to see Intel fill that gap. The i3 also looks like a hell of a budget option.
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For gaming (unless we re talking lightweight or retro stuff), the era of the 2 core CPU is pretty much over and, without SMT, the results are pretty dire. That s providing the game will run at all, as 4 logical processors has been an assumption for a while. That said, you can really see how impressive the IPC throughput of the Golden Cove cores are when SMT is enabled on the Pentium. That is a lot of compute for just two CPU cores. I think Intel is being a little silly by disabling SMT on the Celeron (even if the cache is suboptimal for SMT).
Given AMD seems to have stopped shipping Athlon 3000g s (for the last few years, a fantastic low-end solution with a workable iGPU), it s nice to see Intel fill that gap. The i3 also looks like a hell of a budget option.
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JB6789
I went for a XEON E5-2678v3 (12C/24T) for 85 about 4 months before the pandemic. With all core 3.3 GHz via TurboUnlock, it is a very versatile and capable platform. For the motherboard, I went with HuananZhi X99TF ( 100), which can utilize either DDR3 or DDR4. Running with 4x8GB of 1866 DDR3 Mushkin Redline desktop ram ( 120), and 1 bootable 1TB NVME m.2 with Win10 Pro. Prices have gone through the roof over the last 2 years...looks like things are starting to get back to normal , at least in the used PC parts space.
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I went for a XEON E5-2678v3 (12C/24T) for 85 about 4 months before the pandemic. With all core 3.3 GHz via TurboUnlock, it is a very versatile and capable platform. For the motherboard, I went with HuananZhi X99TF ( 100), which can utilize either DDR3 or DDR4. Running with 4x8GB of 1866 DDR3 Mushkin Redline desktop ram ( 120), and 1 bootable 1TB NVME m.2 with Win10 Pro. Prices have gone through the roof over the last 2 years...looks like things are starting to get back to normal , at least in the used PC parts space.
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mapesdhs
I was looking at entry options recently, beats me why anyone would get the G7400 when the i3 10105F is actually cheaper, with twice the cores and threads (in the UK, for example from Scan, the G7400 is 80 UKP while the 10105F is 73 UKP).
Perhaps Intel should just ditch the Pentium line entirely, given such i3s already present very good value. The G7400 is a hefty downgrade compared to the 10105F.
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I was looking at entry options recently, beats me why anyone would get the G7400 when the i3 10105F is actually cheaper, with twice the cores and threads (in the UK, for example from Scan, the G7400 is 80 UKP while the 10105F is 73 UKP).
Perhaps Intel should just ditch the Pentium line entirely, given such i3s already present very good value. The G7400 is a hefty downgrade compared to the 10105F.
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Hugo
I'd recommend any of the AMD APUs instead with the plan to then roll with no GPU until a deal can be had on one.
AMD's integrated offerings are far more capable than Intel's and allows one to better ride the current market for quite a while.
Also, saying that any dedicated gpu will be better than the integrated, remember that there are still systems shipping with the gt 710 out there.
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I'd recommend any of the AMD APUs instead with the plan to then roll with no GPU until a deal can be had on one.
AMD's integrated offerings are far more capable than Intel's and allows one to better ride the current market for quite a while.
Also, saying that any dedicated gpu will be better than the integrated, remember that there are still systems shipping with the gt 710 out there.
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DontSupportRats
I have 7 Pentium and 11 Celeron. It's worth the Pentium even in work stations. Celeron is really for browsing/emails/streaming at this point. Just an opinion from someone that has 20+ workstations. As stations are replaced they will be all Pentium class. The time saved, well, for everything you do on it, adds up. Great Review and ty for your work GN!
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I have 7 Pentium and 11 Celeron. It's worth the Pentium even in work stations. Celeron is really for browsing/emails/streaming at this point. Just an opinion from someone that has 20+ workstations. As stations are replaced they will be all Pentium class. The time saved, well, for everything you do on it, adds up. Great Review and ty for your work GN!
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Cromefire_
This or the 12100 would probably pair well with an ARC A3, if those really launch at something like 150 or with a pretty old GPU, once the market has fully settled (because you'll probably still be GPU limited in that case). The 12100 might be the better pick though, because the difference isn't much if you factor in the GPU, Mainboard, PSU, etc. cost.
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This or the 12100 would probably pair well with an ARC A3, if those really launch at something like 150 or with a pretty old GPU, once the market has fully settled (because you'll probably still be GPU limited in that case). The 12100 might be the better pick though, because the difference isn't much if you factor in the GPU, Mainboard, PSU, etc. cost.
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Gags
When you work at a FAB and nobody who works there wants the product you make. Talking Pentiums in 20222 I had to check my calendar. If these specs were at 15 Watts we could have something. How long before this thing is considered completely obsolete for a desktop? It just is not worth the money for the longevity it will provide, over 100 USD in some cases.
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When you work at a FAB and nobody who works there wants the product you make. Talking Pentiums in 20222 I had to check my calendar. If these specs were at 15 Watts we could have something. How long before this thing is considered completely obsolete for a desktop? It just is not worth the money for the longevity it will provide, over 100 USD in some cases.
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