Linux Distros - Which Ones are the Longest Running? - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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CFWhitman
Perhaps it's been mentioned already, but dpkg is (technically) Debian's package manager; Slackware's package manager is called pkgtool. Technically, Red Hat's package manager is rpm (as well as SUSE's and others). Of course most people are more familiar, or at least more directly concerned, with dependency managers like apt, yum, and zypper. Traditionally Slackware doesn't have a dependency manager, though there have been a couple that you could add to it if you wanted to.
A number of people consider Red Hat a derivative of Slackware, but I'm not sure that's clear cut. It is clear, however, that though SUSE is an older distribution than Red Hat, it took its package manager from Red Hat.
Red Hat Linux was a freely distributed version of Linux until 2003, when it was discontinued in favor of Red Hat Enterprise Linux to promote support contracts and Fedora Linux to encourage development. That is why CentOS came into existence shortly after that. Someone felt that there should still be a freely distributed version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so they made one. There was no reason for the existence of CentOS before that.
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Perhaps it's been mentioned already, but dpkg is (technically) Debian's package manager; Slackware's package manager is called pkgtool. Technically, Red Hat's package manager is rpm (as well as SUSE's and others). Of course most people are more familiar, or at least more directly concerned, with dependency managers like apt, yum, and zypper. Traditionally Slackware doesn't have a dependency manager, though there have been a couple that you could add to it if you wanted to.
A number of people consider Red Hat a derivative of Slackware, but I'm not sure that's clear cut. It is clear, however, that though SUSE is an older distribution than Red Hat, it took its package manager from Red Hat.
Red Hat Linux was a freely distributed version of Linux until 2003, when it was discontinued in favor of Red Hat Enterprise Linux to promote support contracts and Fedora Linux to encourage development. That is why CentOS came into existence shortly after that. Someone felt that there should still be a freely distributed version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so they made one. There was no reason for the existence of CentOS before that.
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Logan
Gentoo started in December 1999 (under a different name, switched to the Gentoo name in June 2000). The 1.0 release was 2002, hardly 'mid 2000s'... Also, the package manager is called Portage, not emerge. Emerge is just the most common frontend (there are others).
The install time is pretty long, but the hands-on time for the install is actually pretty average for a flexible distro (have to pick your DE, if you want systemd, and so on). Once you have your profile set up, it's a matter of -emerge -world --keep-going- and come back in a couple hours (and yes, I usually run it overnight). It actually is the most compelling on dual core laptops and other underpowered systems (I run it on a core 2 duo from 2008, that took about 16 hours to install), but only if you have a -parent- machine that can help with the compiling via distcc (it doesn't even need to run Gentoo, any -nix works). The -wall time- on install and updates is pretty long, but the stability and performance are unmatched, and the -user time- is not bad on install and trivial on updates.
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Gentoo started in December 1999 (under a different name, switched to the Gentoo name in June 2000). The 1.0 release was 2002, hardly 'mid 2000s'... Also, the package manager is called Portage, not emerge. Emerge is just the most common frontend (there are others).
The install time is pretty long, but the hands-on time for the install is actually pretty average for a flexible distro (have to pick your DE, if you want systemd, and so on). Once you have your profile set up, it's a matter of -emerge -world --keep-going- and come back in a couple hours (and yes, I usually run it overnight). It actually is the most compelling on dual core laptops and other underpowered systems (I run it on a core 2 duo from 2008, that took about 16 hours to install), but only if you have a -parent- machine that can help with the compiling via distcc (it doesn't even need to run Gentoo, any -nix works). The -wall time- on install and updates is pretty long, but the stability and performance are unmatched, and the -user time- is not bad on install and trivial on updates.
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Rajendra
for the first time i used slackware, next i used Ubuntu, later fedora. finally i end switching distros with opensuse.
the favourite feature i see in opensuse is root login with GUI. no more sudo..
Opensuse with KDE is excellent combination. you can browse using dolphin file manager at any time you press F4.
terminal will be launched in that current directory.
pacman repo can be added in zypper. because it can handle apt, yum, along with zypper.
the only intresting feature i found in arch other than opensuse is aur package manager which can download n compile packages itself. but i think you can't customise the features in that package.. so when i need customisation in sources packeges.. i prefer compile manually than with aur..
i think fedora to opensuse is a forward move.
but from open suse to fedora.... didn't find any reason.
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for the first time i used slackware, next i used Ubuntu, later fedora. finally i end switching distros with opensuse.
the favourite feature i see in opensuse is root login with GUI. no more sudo..
Opensuse with KDE is excellent combination. you can browse using dolphin file manager at any time you press F4.
terminal will be launched in that current directory.
pacman repo can be added in zypper. because it can handle apt, yum, along with zypper.
the only intresting feature i found in arch other than opensuse is aur package manager which can download n compile packages itself. but i think you can't customise the features in that package.. so when i need customisation in sources packeges.. i prefer compile manually than with aur..
i think fedora to opensuse is a forward move.
but from open suse to fedora.... didn't find any reason.
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Armed
Just recently got ubuntu with a custom kernel on the same drive as my windows. and I'm extremely new to the linux community. Honestly kinda excited to see what I can do with it. It took me forever though probably had something to do with the computer not wanting to see my sd card as an valid bootable drive so i had to manually create a boot partition on my main C: drive and just like a switch everything clicked. I can easily switch between OSes too and use touchscreen with the surface pen so thats nice. Took me like two days of fiddling around and testing dissapointingly fedora did not work booting from the sd card, although I could try again on my main boot drive but Im really not in the mood to go through the hassle of setting up a custom kernal and signing it for fedora lmao.
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Just recently got ubuntu with a custom kernel on the same drive as my windows. and I'm extremely new to the linux community. Honestly kinda excited to see what I can do with it. It took me forever though probably had something to do with the computer not wanting to see my sd card as an valid bootable drive so i had to manually create a boot partition on my main C: drive and just like a switch everything clicked. I can easily switch between OSes too and use touchscreen with the surface pen so thats nice. Took me like two days of fiddling around and testing dissapointingly fedora did not work booting from the sd card, although I could try again on my main boot drive but Im really not in the mood to go through the hassle of setting up a custom kernal and signing it for fedora lmao.
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zaivala
You totally missed Mandrake/Mandriva. And if you want Gentoo for your home computer, you should check out Sabayon -- no complling, but it does take longer than most other distros. Even so, it is just so CUTE it is almost unbearable, and uses Entropy package manager instead of Portage (although you can use Portage if you really want to, just don't mix the two). I'm a distrohopper, with podcasts Distrohoppers' Digest and mintCast. I run Mint on everything, Bodhi on some things, and then it depends on how much I want to partition my disk what else I have on it.
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You totally missed Mandrake/Mandriva. And if you want Gentoo for your home computer, you should check out Sabayon -- no complling, but it does take longer than most other distros. Even so, it is just so CUTE it is almost unbearable, and uses Entropy package manager instead of Portage (although you can use Portage if you really want to, just don't mix the two). I'm a distrohopper, with podcasts Distrohoppers' Digest and mintCast. I run Mint on everything, Bodhi on some things, and then it depends on how much I want to partition my disk what else I have on it.
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Andreas
I don't get why you dismiss Gentoo for -special projects-. I use my Desktop 8h per day, 5 days per week just for work alone, and investing some hours to have the system customized exactly how I want it by tailoring a Gentoo system is totally worth it. Also Gentoo is super robust and has all the tools required to avoid clutter and stay clean, so it never needs a reinstall, which is where you get the time you used for customizing the system the way you want it back. I would say it overall requires even less time because of that.
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I don't get why you dismiss Gentoo for -special projects-. I use my Desktop 8h per day, 5 days per week just for work alone, and investing some hours to have the system customized exactly how I want it by tailoring a Gentoo system is totally worth it. Also Gentoo is super robust and has all the tools required to avoid clutter and stay clean, so it never needs a reinstall, which is where you get the time you used for customizing the system the way you want it back. I would say it overall requires even less time because of that.
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Ben
Been using Linux since Mandrake Linux free CD on linux magazine days!! ...openSUSE with MATE desktop is a worthy contender even though I personally use UBUNTU derivatives dependant on machine architecture just for convenience, LTS and familiar CLI/update practices rather than distro hopping and reacquainting with Yum/rpms/zipper etc since most Linux OS's get the job done so it seems to be mind time-efficient at least for now to stick with one environment although Fedora and OpenSUSE always seem attractive and TUX FOMO creeps in.
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Been using Linux since Mandrake Linux free CD on linux magazine days!! ...openSUSE with MATE desktop is a worthy contender even though I personally use UBUNTU derivatives dependant on machine architecture just for convenience, LTS and familiar CLI/update practices rather than distro hopping and reacquainting with Yum/rpms/zipper etc since most Linux OS's get the job done so it seems to be mind time-efficient at least for now to stick with one environment although Fedora and OpenSUSE always seem attractive and TUX FOMO creeps in.
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samljer
started on ubuntu, didnt like it at all, this was before i learned to customize shit. (still dont really like it to be honest)
Moved on to mint, but its not stable or very good at anything out of the box (not sure why beginners are recommended this distro)
then moved to zorin, been on it ever since, its fantastic. (honestly, zorin should be recommended over mint for newbies)
its setup to run windows stuff out of the box, its more stable, and does shit faster, and all else is equal, /shrug
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started on ubuntu, didnt like it at all, this was before i learned to customize shit. (still dont really like it to be honest)
Moved on to mint, but its not stable or very good at anything out of the box (not sure why beginners are recommended this distro)
then moved to zorin, been on it ever since, its fantastic. (honestly, zorin should be recommended over mint for newbies)
its setup to run windows stuff out of the box, its more stable, and does shit faster, and all else is equal, /shrug
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Johan
About 10-11 years ago after being tired of ubuntu and fedora I installed Crux, it was a pain in the ---, and so I found Gentoo. Fantastic! I have fallen to ubuntu a short while when I didnt know how to smoothly run my (nvidia) graphic drivers but after a while I have always come back to gentoo. Sure it might take a while to compile sometimes and it has a higher learning curve, at least for running gentoo smoothly which takes routine. but damn it is rewarding ;-)
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About 10-11 years ago after being tired of ubuntu and fedora I installed Crux, it was a pain in the ---, and so I found Gentoo. Fantastic! I have fallen to ubuntu a short while when I didnt know how to smoothly run my (nvidia) graphic drivers but after a while I have always come back to gentoo. Sure it might take a while to compile sometimes and it has a higher learning curve, at least for running gentoo smoothly which takes routine. but damn it is rewarding ;-)
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DEV
My Daily Driver is EndeavourOS, an arch based distribution, that some also refer as Arch installer, because the installer is pretty simple and the installed system has nearly nothing installed but the default DE Applications, Firefox and a tiny set of useful tools made by the distribution developers.
But no Office, no Steam, No thunderbird. YOU are the one to decide what to you want to use and how to customize the System.
I love this Conzept
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My Daily Driver is EndeavourOS, an arch based distribution, that some also refer as Arch installer, because the installer is pretty simple and the installed system has nearly nothing installed but the default DE Applications, Firefox and a tiny set of useful tools made by the distribution developers.
But no Office, no Steam, No thunderbird. YOU are the one to decide what to you want to use and how to customize the System.
I love this Conzept
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