
Linux Rules 2021 - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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Miika
Well, I've been -computing-, since the early 80's... I think my first computer was Mattel Aquarius... But enough of that ;)
At 90's I tried Linux distros in about 2 year cycles... Never really used them for long.
Then I just stopped, couldn't be bothered.
About a week ago, I was looking some Linux stuff, for some reason on YT. Saw Garuda and I'm kinda bored... You see, I maybe like to tinker more, that actually USE things...
Like games, I spend more time to get old games beefed up and tweak the hell out of new games. And when I get them to be/run perfect, I don't play them! xD
So, I got some kind of madness stroke. I have watched a million YT videos of Linux distros etc.
Got ahead and installed newest Mint Cinnamon on my old T61, dualbooting with Win10. Tweaked things, messed-up while tweaking some HDD-settings (used . instead of ,). It made X not to start and had to log in TTY1. Drive(s) were in read only mode. Solved that in about 2 hours. Enjoyed the problem solving, actually! xD
I have already downloaded the Garuda distro and ordered a new NVME-drive to my main computer.
Gonna install Garuda there, where I can also game (T61 with Intel GPU, cannot...)
Won't multiboot, but going to use UEFI-boot selector to select between W10 and Garuda.
Is Linux ever going to be as -mainstream- as Windows?
I don't believe it will, but I might be wrong also ;)
Whatever, I'll have much tinkering in my future and I actually am looking towards it, with a big smile on my face :D
Keep safe, everyone. And be nice to each other ;)
One thing I remember about Linux community, back at the day. It was kinda toxic to newbies... And I believe, at least some people, are still like it ;)
Cheers!
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Well, I've been -computing-, since the early 80's... I think my first computer was Mattel Aquarius... But enough of that ;)
At 90's I tried Linux distros in about 2 year cycles... Never really used them for long.
Then I just stopped, couldn't be bothered.
About a week ago, I was looking some Linux stuff, for some reason on YT. Saw Garuda and I'm kinda bored... You see, I maybe like to tinker more, that actually USE things...
Like games, I spend more time to get old games beefed up and tweak the hell out of new games. And when I get them to be/run perfect, I don't play them! xD
So, I got some kind of madness stroke. I have watched a million YT videos of Linux distros etc.
Got ahead and installed newest Mint Cinnamon on my old T61, dualbooting with Win10. Tweaked things, messed-up while tweaking some HDD-settings (used . instead of ,). It made X not to start and had to log in TTY1. Drive(s) were in read only mode. Solved that in about 2 hours. Enjoyed the problem solving, actually! xD
I have already downloaded the Garuda distro and ordered a new NVME-drive to my main computer.
Gonna install Garuda there, where I can also game (T61 with Intel GPU, cannot...)
Won't multiboot, but going to use UEFI-boot selector to select between W10 and Garuda.
Is Linux ever going to be as -mainstream- as Windows?
I don't believe it will, but I might be wrong also ;)
Whatever, I'll have much tinkering in my future and I actually am looking towards it, with a big smile on my face :D
Keep safe, everyone. And be nice to each other ;)
One thing I remember about Linux community, back at the day. It was kinda toxic to newbies... And I believe, at least some people, are still like it ;)
Cheers!
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Bronan
Uhm 70% gaming on linux really lol your off about 50%.
Only 30% is able to run on crappy on Linux even on the steam version which crashed like with 60% of the games it had as so called linux ready.
Now they actually gave up trying to get it working, its too hard to get directx games to run well on linux and will not change in coming years
No game designer really makes games linux ready at all and if they do its limited so much on the linux version
You jump back to windows as fast as you can to see it in 4k and run like lightning.
Linux never will take the user space there is as long as it still a very painfull OS
When something crashes linux is a pain and often ends in need to reinstall fully, especially for those who are used to windows
When a windows pc crashes it will start in 95% and your back in, when linux crashes it often ends in disaster.
Why simple windows does not need people dig through endless insane help instructions and deep dive into system info does not need insane long commands. Now slowly windows starts to change yes it actually sometimes is death as well.
So all people i know never ever will ever try linux ever again, i actually think its not ever gonna be adopted by people who do not want to dig into a painfull OS which needs to much attention that is why windows will stay the favorite for many years to come
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Uhm 70% gaming on linux really lol your off about 50%.
Only 30% is able to run on crappy on Linux even on the steam version which crashed like with 60% of the games it had as so called linux ready.
Now they actually gave up trying to get it working, its too hard to get directx games to run well on linux and will not change in coming years
No game designer really makes games linux ready at all and if they do its limited so much on the linux version
You jump back to windows as fast as you can to see it in 4k and run like lightning.
Linux never will take the user space there is as long as it still a very painfull OS
When something crashes linux is a pain and often ends in need to reinstall fully, especially for those who are used to windows
When a windows pc crashes it will start in 95% and your back in, when linux crashes it often ends in disaster.
Why simple windows does not need people dig through endless insane help instructions and deep dive into system info does not need insane long commands. Now slowly windows starts to change yes it actually sometimes is death as well.
So all people i know never ever will ever try linux ever again, i actually think its not ever gonna be adopted by people who do not want to dig into a painfull OS which needs to much attention that is why windows will stay the favorite for many years to come
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Squary94
I tried to use Pop OS and the stuff that happened within 2 days:-
- Tried to extract a RAR file without using the terminal, it bugged out and filled my hard drive-
- Tried to get my Huion Kamvas tablet running, just limiting the area to use my pen with took me a hour and felt like I was visiting a mathematics course-
- Tried playing Genshin Impact, needed to break terms of service to get it running-
- Panels felt jittery when moving because I was running 2 monitors, one high refresh rate and my tablet. Took me way to long to fix.-
- Tried to get OneNote running but it doesn't recognize any pen pressure-
- Tried to use PrivateVPN, had to jump through a 12 step installation guide only to see it not working after trying
- ...
It just has none of the -it just works- kind of magic for me. Everything I do feels like doing what I already do on Windows with extra steps. For me, there is seemingly 0 guarentee that once I actually got the stuff running, that the learning curve will stop. That the tinkering will stop. That genuinely makes me sad because I do want to like it.
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I tried to use Pop OS and the stuff that happened within 2 days:-
- Tried to extract a RAR file without using the terminal, it bugged out and filled my hard drive-
- Tried to get my Huion Kamvas tablet running, just limiting the area to use my pen with took me a hour and felt like I was visiting a mathematics course-
- Tried playing Genshin Impact, needed to break terms of service to get it running-
- Panels felt jittery when moving because I was running 2 monitors, one high refresh rate and my tablet. Took me way to long to fix.-
- Tried to get OneNote running but it doesn't recognize any pen pressure-
- Tried to use PrivateVPN, had to jump through a 12 step installation guide only to see it not working after trying
- ...
It just has none of the -it just works- kind of magic for me. Everything I do feels like doing what I already do on Windows with extra steps. For me, there is seemingly 0 guarentee that once I actually got the stuff running, that the learning curve will stop. That the tinkering will stop. That genuinely makes me sad because I do want to like it.
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Water
Ther is few things i want from my os
1. Great External divice support
2. Great apps and games
3. Good performance
4. Esey to use
5. Security
6. Privacy
7. Full control
And the is i few things i don't want for my os
1. vfx meny desktop os have useless vfx like transparent and animtion personal i perfer my ram to go in the app and game instead form vfx the os has
To by onest the os i dream is not exist im sure the are meny Light especially in Linux but the problem is meny divice is not support on Linux like for example my graphics tablet has drivers only for windows and Mac i don't same in meny applecation ther made on windows is pasble to work with wine but not always the best selution
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Ther is few things i want from my os
1. Great External divice support
2. Great apps and games
3. Good performance
4. Esey to use
5. Security
6. Privacy
7. Full control
And the is i few things i don't want for my os
1. vfx meny desktop os have useless vfx like transparent and animtion personal i perfer my ram to go in the app and game instead form vfx the os has
To by onest the os i dream is not exist im sure the are meny Light especially in Linux but the problem is meny divice is not support on Linux like for example my graphics tablet has drivers only for windows and Mac i don't same in meny applecation ther made on windows is pasble to work with wine but not always the best selution
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JD
Mainly cause in Windows its as simple as downloading a GUI install and clicking next next next with Linux its searching half a dozen forums and trying to enter things into a 1967 terminal just for it to say you don't have the dependencies installed.
Took me 13 days just to get AC3 5.1 audio to work over SPDIF something that is as simple as a drop own menu on windows 10 automatically without installing a single effing thing.
Linux is easy for nerds more specificity programmers or for grandma's who set on chrome all day.
Middle man is effed can't even run dual monitors with different refresh rates without the GUI lagging yet due to X11 something you could really do on Windows 98 even
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Mainly cause in Windows its as simple as downloading a GUI install and clicking next next next with Linux its searching half a dozen forums and trying to enter things into a 1967 terminal just for it to say you don't have the dependencies installed.
Took me 13 days just to get AC3 5.1 audio to work over SPDIF something that is as simple as a drop own menu on windows 10 automatically without installing a single effing thing.
Linux is easy for nerds more specificity programmers or for grandma's who set on chrome all day.
Middle man is effed can't even run dual monitors with different refresh rates without the GUI lagging yet due to X11 something you could really do on Windows 98 even
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Roy
Yes it rules and I have been using Linux since 90s early days. It has come a long way but yet its server orientation shows till today. For instance you want 10bit color with full RGB over HDMI you are in luck if you have nvidia except no Wayland but with AMDGPU you get kernel level driver support and the latest one if using Arch. Sadly no full RGB over hdmi unless you do a hack that would hold back most new as well as not that involved Linux users. OTOH for productivity I prefer Linux although recently I did give Windows 10 a try and was quite impressed over all but still it has some of the old layers that always reminds one why they switched to Linux in first place.
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Yes it rules and I have been using Linux since 90s early days. It has come a long way but yet its server orientation shows till today. For instance you want 10bit color with full RGB over HDMI you are in luck if you have nvidia except no Wayland but with AMDGPU you get kernel level driver support and the latest one if using Arch. Sadly no full RGB over hdmi unless you do a hack that would hold back most new as well as not that involved Linux users. OTOH for productivity I prefer Linux although recently I did give Windows 10 a try and was quite impressed over all but still it has some of the old layers that always reminds one why they switched to Linux in first place.
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Fleefie.
My take on Linux is simple : it's old. It's time for a replacement. I'm talking about Linux itself of course, not whole distributions, but just the kernel.
We should focus on rebuilding Linux from scratch as a side-project, while keeping Linux itself updated.
It's kind of like how Rust is trying to rebuild C++ but with modern improvements.
Or hey, maybe someone should just fork Linux and do it themselves. Who knows what the future got in store for us, it's just that we need sustainability within the codebase....
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My take on Linux is simple : it's old. It's time for a replacement. I'm talking about Linux itself of course, not whole distributions, but just the kernel.
We should focus on rebuilding Linux from scratch as a side-project, while keeping Linux itself updated.
It's kind of like how Rust is trying to rebuild C++ but with modern improvements.
Or hey, maybe someone should just fork Linux and do it themselves. Who knows what the future got in store for us, it's just that we need sustainability within the codebase....
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Lightenzero
It feel some hypocrisy that those companies were once against free os and kernel. Knowing your say that they hate paying someone fees. There were many reason but one reason that users can't access those fees or in house os vs free os that is stable and committee create os from group of people working together to build their own great OS. Another reason is that the school education system to teach how to create OS is hard and limit either they chose paid or free OS to learn the in and out. Just a guess.
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It feel some hypocrisy that those companies were once against free os and kernel. Knowing your say that they hate paying someone fees. There were many reason but one reason that users can't access those fees or in house os vs free os that is stable and committee create os from group of people working together to build their own great OS. Another reason is that the school education system to teach how to create OS is hard and limit either they chose paid or free OS to learn the in and out. Just a guess.
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Jolum
One word 'Fuchsia'.
Whether you like it or not the vast majority of installed Linux devices use Linux as part of a Google Android platform rather than as stand-alone Linux desktops or servers, yes even if you include data centres. If Google switches to their own version of Linux and releases it for free so will the rest of the world. Resistance is futile.
I hate to say it but this level of unfounded optimism is only matched by those that believed the titanic was unsinkable.
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One word 'Fuchsia'.
Whether you like it or not the vast majority of installed Linux devices use Linux as part of a Google Android platform rather than as stand-alone Linux desktops or servers, yes even if you include data centres. If Google switches to their own version of Linux and releases it for free so will the rest of the world. Resistance is futile.
I hate to say it but this level of unfounded optimism is only matched by those that believed the titanic was unsinkable.
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Andrew
The fragmentation is strictly a downside. Objectively. How many ways are there to turn a screw? It's good to have a variety of ice cream flavors; it's not good to have a variety of wrenches. Give me one good and reliable tool. The cost to research and maybe spin a wheel and land on the -best- Linux distro, i.e. -the best wrench-, is intractable compared to just making my own software environment which isn't another Linux distro because doing that just adds to the fragmentation.
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The fragmentation is strictly a downside. Objectively. How many ways are there to turn a screw? It's good to have a variety of ice cream flavors; it's not good to have a variety of wrenches. Give me one good and reliable tool. The cost to research and maybe spin a wheel and land on the -best- Linux distro, i.e. -the best wrench-, is intractable compared to just making my own software environment which isn't another Linux distro because doing that just adds to the fragmentation.
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