
Accused Of Racism. I Quit My Job. Now What? DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Cansu
Ok, I'm a Turkish woman from Berlin, Germany - raised up here, total Berliner. I wanna say a few things here:
1. I don't get why some people write something like -I never thought you would be racist.- - Well, you never claimed that what the -pregnant- black woman wrote was true, nor did you claim that what she wrote couldn't be true. I believe that the majority here - seen by the thumbs up - agrees with your opinion on you not being racist. So I don't see any point in particularly pickung up this point to confirm that you're a good guy. I rather really much appreciate that you're smart and that you managed to not become angry in such situations as you said, but stay calm which seems to me to be a very rare reaction in human beings. And I think it takes intelligence and a good amount of experience in social interaction to get to that point. Since almost all of us are in a way - more or less - emotional when it comes to unexpected things like that (like criticism).
2. The thing with racist people is that they are - most times unconciously - not willing to learn. So it's hard to make them learn. One of the good ways to make them learn is through emotion (since many - not all! - work by emotions). This is actually one thing we were taught in class in what you would call -high school- here in Germany by our head teacher: It was that when you want to make a point in a conversation with someone who might be wrong, don't go into self-defence saying -you did that-/-I didn't do that- and so on, but to talk about how you feel and what certaing things make you feel without including the other person actively. So one way might be, -When I hear things like that it makes me feel powerless and knowing that there is an issue going on which I feel I'm constantly confronted with, is draining for me...- instead of -You constantly do this or that...-.
3. Sometimes it's better to remind ourselves that there actually people like us - whether they are far away or close - that we can relate to rather than getting annoyed over the bunch of bad people. And I believe that society, with the upcoming generations, can only get better. And I also think it's better not so say -all- as I read through at least one comment where it said that we would all have some prejudice in a way or another as it's not good to never say never. I believe that if you have the state of mind you can very well have no prejudice. For some it might be easy, for other it might take some practice. Me, I'm autistic, and yes, I just look like a regular girl (and I can also act that way), but what I'm trying to say is, things are never black and white and we should always be aware of that. (Edit: Just as things are never grey. I just wanted to say, you should not always say -all- (just as -you should never say never.))
4. And last, but not least: -Black- people are not black, they are brown. Just saying.
Lovely greetings from Berlin, Germany
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Ok, I'm a Turkish woman from Berlin, Germany - raised up here, total Berliner. I wanna say a few things here:
1. I don't get why some people write something like -I never thought you would be racist.- - Well, you never claimed that what the -pregnant- black woman wrote was true, nor did you claim that what she wrote couldn't be true. I believe that the majority here - seen by the thumbs up - agrees with your opinion on you not being racist. So I don't see any point in particularly pickung up this point to confirm that you're a good guy. I rather really much appreciate that you're smart and that you managed to not become angry in such situations as you said, but stay calm which seems to me to be a very rare reaction in human beings. And I think it takes intelligence and a good amount of experience in social interaction to get to that point. Since almost all of us are in a way - more or less - emotional when it comes to unexpected things like that (like criticism).
2. The thing with racist people is that they are - most times unconciously - not willing to learn. So it's hard to make them learn. One of the good ways to make them learn is through emotion (since many - not all! - work by emotions). This is actually one thing we were taught in class in what you would call -high school- here in Germany by our head teacher: It was that when you want to make a point in a conversation with someone who might be wrong, don't go into self-defence saying -you did that-/-I didn't do that- and so on, but to talk about how you feel and what certaing things make you feel without including the other person actively. So one way might be, -When I hear things like that it makes me feel powerless and knowing that there is an issue going on which I feel I'm constantly confronted with, is draining for me...- instead of -You constantly do this or that...-.
3. Sometimes it's better to remind ourselves that there actually people like us - whether they are far away or close - that we can relate to rather than getting annoyed over the bunch of bad people. And I believe that society, with the upcoming generations, can only get better. And I also think it's better not so say -all- as I read through at least one comment where it said that we would all have some prejudice in a way or another as it's not good to never say never. I believe that if you have the state of mind you can very well have no prejudice. For some it might be easy, for other it might take some practice. Me, I'm autistic, and yes, I just look like a regular girl (and I can also act that way), but what I'm trying to say is, things are never black and white and we should always be aware of that. (Edit: Just as things are never grey. I just wanted to say, you should not always say -all- (just as -you should never say never.))
4. And last, but not least: -Black- people are not black, they are brown. Just saying.
Lovely greetings from Berlin, Germany
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noam65
I can only ask... was there more than one bald headed white guy working in the place? Bald not meaning balding... Bald meaning no hair at the moment.
I just say, let the videos speak for themselves. If you are doing the same kinds of movement patterns before and after, then case closed.
Additionally, you never experienced institutional racism as black and brown people traditionally have. A bank has never denied you a loan, because you were black. Oh you might say there are laws against that, but effectively only if they are enforced. These days they are often not. You have not been denied housing because you are white, though many black folk and Latino folk have. I think, though you are free to give your opinions, an actual informed opinion would require you to go, say to Japan, and attempt to make a life. After that experience, you would definitely know by experience what it is to be an institutionally recognized OTHER. Without that kind of experience, I am not sure you would be able to speak for the racism of others, who are so used to being treated the way you describe that she wrote in her letter, that even an innocuous behavior can be misinterpreted that way, sometimes.
To be a minority where laws and policies are stacked against you, or opportunities are denied you, with thin excuses to make it not look like what it is, well unless it is experienced in one's own daily life... it is difficult to relate.
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I can only ask... was there more than one bald headed white guy working in the place? Bald not meaning balding... Bald meaning no hair at the moment.
I just say, let the videos speak for themselves. If you are doing the same kinds of movement patterns before and after, then case closed.
Additionally, you never experienced institutional racism as black and brown people traditionally have. A bank has never denied you a loan, because you were black. Oh you might say there are laws against that, but effectively only if they are enforced. These days they are often not. You have not been denied housing because you are white, though many black folk and Latino folk have. I think, though you are free to give your opinions, an actual informed opinion would require you to go, say to Japan, and attempt to make a life. After that experience, you would definitely know by experience what it is to be an institutionally recognized OTHER. Without that kind of experience, I am not sure you would be able to speak for the racism of others, who are so used to being treated the way you describe that she wrote in her letter, that even an innocuous behavior can be misinterpreted that way, sometimes.
To be a minority where laws and policies are stacked against you, or opportunities are denied you, with thin excuses to make it not look like what it is, well unless it is experienced in one's own daily life... it is difficult to relate.
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El
You know, growing up in a predominantly Hispanic part of the state of Texas (I'm Hispanic, for context), the most racism that I've experienced has been from minorities. I have never seen so much hate, and ignorance, from people I used to call friends and family, who never want to improve their lives and somehow find it necessary to blame someone else's success solely based off of the color of their skin; they don't look in the mirror and realize that they chose to get -educated- in liberal-arts degrees and -blame the man- for their inability to pay a surprise $500.00 bill. Petty jealousy doesn't get you far in life.
I truly hope that people don't ever experience real racism. It is some of the most disgusting things that any one person can experience.
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You know, growing up in a predominantly Hispanic part of the state of Texas (I'm Hispanic, for context), the most racism that I've experienced has been from minorities. I have never seen so much hate, and ignorance, from people I used to call friends and family, who never want to improve their lives and somehow find it necessary to blame someone else's success solely based off of the color of their skin; they don't look in the mirror and realize that they chose to get -educated- in liberal-arts degrees and -blame the man- for their inability to pay a surprise $500.00 bill. Petty jealousy doesn't get you far in life.
I truly hope that people don't ever experience real racism. It is some of the most disgusting things that any one person can experience.
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Homer
Honestly the most racist thing I've ever seen was a black man in a position of authority discriminating against (Asian) Indian subordinates. I won't go into details, for obvious reasons, but it was pretty extreme, and the outcome was something I'd literally classify as a human rights violation.
That really opened my eyes, because up to that point I naively assumed that racism was something that only white people did, and that anything that might be interpreted as racism in black people was merely their entirely justified outrage at centuries of oppression. But how exactly did these lowly and rather impoverished subordinate Indian workers oppress their significantly more privileged black supervisor?
Lesson learned. Anyone can be racist.
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Honestly the most racist thing I've ever seen was a black man in a position of authority discriminating against (Asian) Indian subordinates. I won't go into details, for obvious reasons, but it was pretty extreme, and the outcome was something I'd literally classify as a human rights violation.
That really opened my eyes, because up to that point I naively assumed that racism was something that only white people did, and that anything that might be interpreted as racism in black people was merely their entirely justified outrage at centuries of oppression. But how exactly did these lowly and rather impoverished subordinate Indian workers oppress their significantly more privileged black supervisor?
Lesson learned. Anyone can be racist.
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Timothy
Hey man, I've found your videos three years in the future. I don't know anything about you. Where you work, or what you do. I don't know what you believe about anything (except Linux!). I'm a Windows user, not an IT professional, not going to switch to Linux any time soon, but I'm a dabbler. I disagree with you in a lot of this video, but I'm not going to argue in the comments. I don't know who's racist in this situation because I don't know anything about the situation beyond what you've told us. I wasn't there. I wasn't privy to any of it. You could be an awful human being. You could be a literal saint. Hell I don't know, I'm just here to learn about Linux.
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Hey man, I've found your videos three years in the future. I don't know anything about you. Where you work, or what you do. I don't know what you believe about anything (except Linux!). I'm a Windows user, not an IT professional, not going to switch to Linux any time soon, but I'm a dabbler. I disagree with you in a lot of this video, but I'm not going to argue in the comments. I don't know who's racist in this situation because I don't know anything about the situation beyond what you've told us. I wasn't there. I wasn't privy to any of it. You could be an awful human being. You could be a literal saint. Hell I don't know, I'm just here to learn about Linux.
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Elixer
I think what you're not willing to accept is this person simply hates white people and like you said is a total racist, and she projected her own racism onto you.
Its NOT ridiculous to suggest that white people are victims of racism, clearly you are one. This marxist brainwashing has really manipulated the masses into this CRT garbage that MLK rejected completely. It's all coming from the CCP who fund this propaganda to ruin our society. People have no idea how much manipulation comes from that corrupt government that openly teaches its citizens to hate the US and lies extensively, all while they commit far worse human rights abuses
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I think what you're not willing to accept is this person simply hates white people and like you said is a total racist, and she projected her own racism onto you.
Its NOT ridiculous to suggest that white people are victims of racism, clearly you are one. This marxist brainwashing has really manipulated the masses into this CRT garbage that MLK rejected completely. It's all coming from the CCP who fund this propaganda to ruin our society. People have no idea how much manipulation comes from that corrupt government that openly teaches its citizens to hate the US and lies extensively, all while they commit far worse human rights abuses
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Michael
Agree with everything except the 'everyone is racist' part. No, you can definitely separate the individual from the group, or even the individual from the statistics, or the individual from the stereotype, completely. If you see a statistic about crime in the US and you then apply that information to an individual that you know personally, you're not just applying a stereotype, you're interpreting, as far as I can see, the idea of statistics incorrectly. The trends within a group don't mean much on an individual basis. Believe whatever you want about whether stereotypes fit people ON THE WHOLE, but to apply that personally is foolish.
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Agree with everything except the 'everyone is racist' part. No, you can definitely separate the individual from the group, or even the individual from the statistics, or the individual from the stereotype, completely. If you see a statistic about crime in the US and you then apply that information to an individual that you know personally, you're not just applying a stereotype, you're interpreting, as far as I can see, the idea of statistics incorrectly. The trends within a group don't mean much on an individual basis. Believe whatever you want about whether stereotypes fit people ON THE WHOLE, but to apply that personally is foolish.
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Shawn
Institutional racism _does_ exist, and is the artifact of laws and policies put in place decades and even centuries ago by white racists (in the USA, at least) who are now long-dead. But yes, any person from any race can be racist on an individual basis.
And yes, I strongly agree with your evaluation of the -Uncle Tom- problem -- black American culture has been abused for centuries into believing that -acting white- is bad for a black person to do, even if they're really just doing something that works well and it happens to be the same thing that a lot of white people do. In that respect they hold each other back.
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Institutional racism _does_ exist, and is the artifact of laws and policies put in place decades and even centuries ago by white racists (in the USA, at least) who are now long-dead. But yes, any person from any race can be racist on an individual basis.
And yes, I strongly agree with your evaluation of the -Uncle Tom- problem -- black American culture has been abused for centuries into believing that -acting white- is bad for a black person to do, even if they're really just doing something that works well and it happens to be the same thing that a lot of white people do. In that respect they hold each other back.
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Curtis
It drives me nuts how a lot of people think if your white its impossible to be raciest against them.
I've been called a cracker, white boy, gringo etc. But if I called someone of a different race by a similar name I'm racist.
I would not call someone anything like that because it is racist and that I am not.
I don't care what your race is, it does not matter to me.
Race should not matter to anyone in my opinion, but if you think you cant be racist to a white person,
YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM, and nothing is going to change it actually will get worse.
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It drives me nuts how a lot of people think if your white its impossible to be raciest against them.
I've been called a cracker, white boy, gringo etc. But if I called someone of a different race by a similar name I'm racist.
I would not call someone anything like that because it is racist and that I am not.
I don't care what your race is, it does not matter to me.
Race should not matter to anyone in my opinion, but if you think you cant be racist to a white person,
YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM, and nothing is going to change it actually will get worse.
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Friedrich
My word. It sickens me that you are attacked just for looking a certain way. We are supposed to be beyond this level of puerile antics, but I guess not.
I left the US 7 or 8 years ago, in part, because I have grown sick of this crap.
I don't know what it is with the US, and why this stuff is still persistent after all these decades since the civil rights struggles 60 years ago. It is like -no one- wants to grow up in the US.
I wish you well, my friend. I do watch a good number of your shows, and it is high time that Pateron you.
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My word. It sickens me that you are attacked just for looking a certain way. We are supposed to be beyond this level of puerile antics, but I guess not.
I left the US 7 or 8 years ago, in part, because I have grown sick of this crap.
I don't know what it is with the US, and why this stuff is still persistent after all these decades since the civil rights struggles 60 years ago. It is like -no one- wants to grow up in the US.
I wish you well, my friend. I do watch a good number of your shows, and it is high time that Pateron you.
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