Common Questions About Tiling Window Managers DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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crab_aesthetics
I think you misunderstand the utility of the i3 tabbed layout. When your windows are full screen, it's not useful, it's superfluous, like you demonstrate. Where it really shines is when you already have the view split. I will describe an example.
Part of my job requires answering phones, and the phone interface is a web page. On a small window that takes up maybe the right 15% of the screen, I keep the phone system web page open. The other 85% of the screen I use 5 tabbed windows:
- Browser for ticketing system and research
- Chat client
- Remote Windows machine for applications that I need that can't be installed on Linux
- Notes
- File browser
The tabs at the top of the left split allow easy access to any of these windows, while still allowing the phone system window to remain open on the right side of the screen.
One other thing that probably many people do not know is that you can split windows inside a tabbed view. This is useful for like keeping many windows open but only one of them focused, taking up the full screen, but then still having the ability to open a split on that window while leaving all the others on their own tabs out of the way. I find myself using this often when needing to reference a web page and open terminals but I still have other web pages open in their own windows that I don't necessarily want to close, but I don't want to have on the screen at the moment.
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I think you misunderstand the utility of the i3 tabbed layout. When your windows are full screen, it's not useful, it's superfluous, like you demonstrate. Where it really shines is when you already have the view split. I will describe an example.
Part of my job requires answering phones, and the phone interface is a web page. On a small window that takes up maybe the right 15% of the screen, I keep the phone system web page open. The other 85% of the screen I use 5 tabbed windows:
- Browser for ticketing system and research
- Chat client
- Remote Windows machine for applications that I need that can't be installed on Linux
- Notes
- File browser
The tabs at the top of the left split allow easy access to any of these windows, while still allowing the phone system window to remain open on the right side of the screen.
One other thing that probably many people do not know is that you can split windows inside a tabbed view. This is useful for like keeping many windows open but only one of them focused, taking up the full screen, but then still having the ability to open a split on that window while leaving all the others on their own tabs out of the way. I find myself using this often when needing to reference a web page and open terminals but I still have other web pages open in their own windows that I don't necessarily want to close, but I don't want to have on the screen at the moment.
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PolGZ
I must be the dumbest linux user ever. I can't really make WM's work for me.
SpectrWR run superfast, but I never was able to display the damn icons to make it look not like 1971; doesn't support system tray; couldn't make my old laptop volume keys work...
AwesomeWM: good systemtray, my audio keys work smooth... but it completely freezes for like a second each time it updates the bar (my laptop is VERY old, but man, I believe even gnome would run smoother). Each time I launched dmenu the cursor would also go -clock-loading- for the next few seconds... CPU and RAM weren't high at all, but it just wasn't something smooth.
Dwm I got errors at second patch that I didn't know how to solve on my own.
I've never studied anything computer related... and I've only been a full linux (no windows at all) user for 1 year, but man is it frustrating... I'm stuck with xfce f-cking manually resizing everything half-screen-left half-screen-right and maximized for now ---
(Edit: Well, Openbox + tint2 worked fine. But at that point I opted for not having a second option on the system, since I share the laptop with my father and he needs a traditional DE and I didn't feel it offered much)
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I must be the dumbest linux user ever. I can't really make WM's work for me.
SpectrWR run superfast, but I never was able to display the damn icons to make it look not like 1971; doesn't support system tray; couldn't make my old laptop volume keys work...
AwesomeWM: good systemtray, my audio keys work smooth... but it completely freezes for like a second each time it updates the bar (my laptop is VERY old, but man, I believe even gnome would run smoother). Each time I launched dmenu the cursor would also go -clock-loading- for the next few seconds... CPU and RAM weren't high at all, but it just wasn't something smooth.
Dwm I got errors at second patch that I didn't know how to solve on my own.
I've never studied anything computer related... and I've only been a full linux (no windows at all) user for 1 year, but man is it frustrating... I'm stuck with xfce f-cking manually resizing everything half-screen-left half-screen-right and maximized for now ---
(Edit: Well, Openbox + tint2 worked fine. But at that point I opted for not having a second option on the system, since I share the laptop with my father and he needs a traditional DE and I didn't feel it offered much)
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Chris
Learning something from the start, i chose to start with QTILE... because Python is a very used programming language and common to a lot of projects ... the only thing is i can't find a tutorial for it, based on archlinux scratch. I don't want to use out-of-the-box ISOs with 1500 pre-installed packages when I will only need 25 ... this should be really cool to see a tutorial on how to start from scratch with QTILE, with archlinux.
ps. i just install it from an existing XFCE installation and boot on QTILE, start learning now :)
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Learning something from the start, i chose to start with QTILE... because Python is a very used programming language and common to a lot of projects ... the only thing is i can't find a tutorial for it, based on archlinux scratch. I don't want to use out-of-the-box ISOs with 1500 pre-installed packages when I will only need 25 ... this should be really cool to see a tutorial on how to start from scratch with QTILE, with archlinux.
ps. i just install it from an existing XFCE installation and boot on QTILE, start learning now :)
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LazyLoneLion
I'd like to see the instructional video about how to combine all those (most common) components into a whole thing.
Like how do I change login manager?
How do I configure a specific window manager in the (?) login manager ?
How do I switch desktop environment?
How do I take something from one DE and something else from another and use it -- like use Nautilus in GNOME just for example?
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I'd like to see the instructional video about how to combine all those (most common) components into a whole thing.
Like how do I change login manager?
How do I configure a specific window manager in the (?) login manager ?
How do I switch desktop environment?
How do I take something from one DE and something else from another and use it -- like use Nautilus in GNOME just for example?
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gl0sek
I actually prefer tmux. Since it runs in a background as a service I think only once it crashed on me but had multiple instances of desktop environment crashing and once it happened all terminals and work on them closed... Besides I like that I can connect via ssh from any machine attach tmux and all my work is just where I left it. The only thing that bothers me with tmux is copying to and from it.
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I actually prefer tmux. Since it runs in a background as a service I think only once it crashed on me but had multiple instances of desktop environment crashing and once it happened all terminals and work on them closed... Besides I like that I can connect via ssh from any machine attach tmux and all my work is just where I left it. The only thing that bothers me with tmux is copying to and from it.
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Adam
Qtile is built on top of Qt, so it's at it's core just a bunch of C++ calls. It's true that python itself is slow, but it's interoperability with C/C++ makes it about as fast as you want it to be (given you want to take the time to write the underlying C/C++ which can be tricky at times). Numpy is a perfect example of this.
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Qtile is built on top of Qt, so it's at it's core just a bunch of C++ calls. It's true that python itself is slow, but it's interoperability with C/C++ makes it about as fast as you want it to be (given you want to take the time to write the underlying C/C++ which can be tricky at times). Numpy is a perfect example of this.
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ExtraTNT
i3 is the best window manager
... if you have your config for i3, have my workflow or a similar and use more or less the same software as i do...
you can look at one point and say this is the best, but almost never you can say this is the best in general... if you can do so, something must be beyond perfect...
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i3 is the best window manager
... if you have your config for i3, have my workflow or a similar and use more or less the same software as i do...
you can look at one point and say this is the best, but almost never you can say this is the best in general... if you can do so, something must be beyond perfect...
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WK-47
Ah, the 'Python is slow' misconception. It's a high-level language that's not as efficient at certain tasks as you point out, sure, but most users/code won't necessarily be performing those tasks. Match that against its ease of use, and it's a very fair tradeoff. I'm biased, though.
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Ah, the 'Python is slow' misconception. It's a high-level language that's not as efficient at certain tasks as you point out, sure, but most users/code won't necessarily be performing those tasks. Match that against its ease of use, and it's a very fair tradeoff. I'm biased, though.
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Umka
I accepted your challenge. I switched from Windows (over 20 years of Windows desktop experience) to my first Linux PC and my window environment is Xmonad & Xmobar. :) It works fine.
Xmobar consumes more RAM than Xmonad. :)
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I accepted your challenge. I switched from Windows (over 20 years of Windows desktop experience) to my first Linux PC and my window environment is Xmonad & Xmobar. :) It works fine.
Xmobar consumes more RAM than Xmonad. :)
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Rahul
I am trying to find a right way to configure Awesome WM on Manjaro KDE. While I read that KDE plasma is integrated extensively on vanilla Manjaro, wanted to know some basic steps to follow to configure it on my desktop
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I am trying to find a right way to configure Awesome WM on Manjaro KDE. While I read that KDE plasma is integrated extensively on vanilla Manjaro, wanted to know some basic steps to follow to configure it on my desktop
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