Want Social Justice? The Free Software Movement Fights For Everyone! DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Daniel
-Windows is not yours, it's ours [owned by Microsoft]- - Yes. With all my hate to Microsoft, it's just correct. You put no time nor effort nor money to develop Windows. You, as a user, purchase a copy of a bunch of binary files, but you don't purchase the source code. It [the source code] is not yours, it shouldn't be yours, and never going to be yours, unless Microsoft decides otherwise.
-I demand the right of doing whatever I want to with the software that runs on the computer I own- - Alright, then write your own software. All the programming languages are open and free to use. Good luck. Or, instead, you can use the software, the source code of which, it's developer decided to give away for 100% free (usually alongside with some precompiled binaries).
The software development is the job, which should be paid for. Surprise, you can't charge for things available for free.
Speaking of data mining. This is how the modern world works. You data mine, or you die as a software development company. You must have ingenious marketing person to live without it now. Or, more like, not to live, but to dominate the market share.
-Why programmers, developers, engineers, scientists, lawyers aren't fighting?..- - Fighting their own jobs? Come on.
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-Windows is not yours, it's ours [owned by Microsoft]- - Yes. With all my hate to Microsoft, it's just correct. You put no time nor effort nor money to develop Windows. You, as a user, purchase a copy of a bunch of binary files, but you don't purchase the source code. It [the source code] is not yours, it shouldn't be yours, and never going to be yours, unless Microsoft decides otherwise.
-I demand the right of doing whatever I want to with the software that runs on the computer I own- - Alright, then write your own software. All the programming languages are open and free to use. Good luck. Or, instead, you can use the software, the source code of which, it's developer decided to give away for 100% free (usually alongside with some precompiled binaries).
The software development is the job, which should be paid for. Surprise, you can't charge for things available for free.
Speaking of data mining. This is how the modern world works. You data mine, or you die as a software development company. You must have ingenious marketing person to live without it now. Or, more like, not to live, but to dominate the market share.
-Why programmers, developers, engineers, scientists, lawyers aren't fighting?..- - Fighting their own jobs? Come on.
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Kwyjibo
Most people don't install Windows, they use it because it came on their computer. I don't even know if they agree to the EULA there, but even if they do read and agree to it, I think the vast majority of them would still agree to it because it's already installed and ready to use. That's just how people are in general, and with technology where there is a learning curve and a lot of unknowns, they are definitely not going to seek out alternatives. The only way to change this is to have Linux preinstalled on many more computers.
Now imagine if governments were to step in on that and either prevent operating systems from being preinstalled(highly unlikely), or require manufacturers to include a FOSS OS so when the user boots up the computer for the first time, they have to choose to install either Linux or Windows. Yeah in the short term most people would still install Windows because it's familiar, but in 20 years just about everyone would at least have heard of Linux, and thus be more willing to give it a shot.
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Most people don't install Windows, they use it because it came on their computer. I don't even know if they agree to the EULA there, but even if they do read and agree to it, I think the vast majority of them would still agree to it because it's already installed and ready to use. That's just how people are in general, and with technology where there is a learning curve and a lot of unknowns, they are definitely not going to seek out alternatives. The only way to change this is to have Linux preinstalled on many more computers.
Now imagine if governments were to step in on that and either prevent operating systems from being preinstalled(highly unlikely), or require manufacturers to include a FOSS OS so when the user boots up the computer for the first time, they have to choose to install either Linux or Windows. Yeah in the short term most people would still install Windows because it's familiar, but in 20 years just about everyone would at least have heard of Linux, and thus be more willing to give it a shot.
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zaid
I think the reason why most people don't know or care about free software is that most users don't want to go through any source code themselves, even if they could. So it makes no difference to them (as they see it) that the code was written by Microsoft employees or a global community of developers. Either way, they would be taking the developers' word that the software is good for them and is effective for accomplishing what they need out of it. So they choose the more convenient closed source one that guarantees customer support and a warranty, and that is written by legally bound (by a government) institutes.
One day though, it will become abundantly clear for those people that open source software that is peer reviewed by hundreds of people, and that is open to being peer reviewed by anyone else who wishes at any time IS more effective, better for the user, less intrusive, and more guaranteeing of freedom than the proprietary one in 99% of cases.
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I think the reason why most people don't know or care about free software is that most users don't want to go through any source code themselves, even if they could. So it makes no difference to them (as they see it) that the code was written by Microsoft employees or a global community of developers. Either way, they would be taking the developers' word that the software is good for them and is effective for accomplishing what they need out of it. So they choose the more convenient closed source one that guarantees customer support and a warranty, and that is written by legally bound (by a government) institutes.
One day though, it will become abundantly clear for those people that open source software that is peer reviewed by hundreds of people, and that is open to being peer reviewed by anyone else who wishes at any time IS more effective, better for the user, less intrusive, and more guaranteeing of freedom than the proprietary one in 99% of cases.
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AussieEevee
I think this video highlights why i hate the free software movement. Proprietary software CAN be ethical. It CAN be secure or respect your privacy. (Reminder: Apple defied a court order to protect a users privacy). I choose Linux over Windows for a number of reasons (one being i hate microsoft)... and one of those reasons is the freedom to choose. I-m not going to LIMIT my choices to only FOSS software. This is like watching politicians. Microsoft is one kind of extremism... and the free software movement is the other kind of extremism.. I-m sorry, but i am going to stay in the political centre. I will not choose a side and will exercise my FREEDOM to use software from all sources. I will use steam. I will use iOS. I will use linux. I will find a way to make them all work together. I will not use Windows though. But that-s my freedom to choose.
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I think this video highlights why i hate the free software movement. Proprietary software CAN be ethical. It CAN be secure or respect your privacy. (Reminder: Apple defied a court order to protect a users privacy). I choose Linux over Windows for a number of reasons (one being i hate microsoft)... and one of those reasons is the freedom to choose. I-m not going to LIMIT my choices to only FOSS software. This is like watching politicians. Microsoft is one kind of extremism... and the free software movement is the other kind of extremism.. I-m sorry, but i am going to stay in the political centre. I will not choose a side and will exercise my FREEDOM to use software from all sources. I will use steam. I will use iOS. I will use linux. I will find a way to make them all work together. I will not use Windows though. But that-s my freedom to choose.
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bigpod
there are 2 mentalities when it comes to programming there is the one that is in general proposed by open source movement and the FSF (but FSF goes even further and in reality then takes the rights and freedom of developer who created the software for the -privilege- that that software can be called Freedom/libre software) that talks about how software code must be freely shared and how users should have ability to check it and even change it.
while on other hand there is also mentality of that since source code comes from your mind your thinking its then intelectual property ergo developer should have all the freedom since it is his, and that unless the developer decides otherwise it should be protected
and you realy cant say that those who create proprietary software are in control
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there are 2 mentalities when it comes to programming there is the one that is in general proposed by open source movement and the FSF (but FSF goes even further and in reality then takes the rights and freedom of developer who created the software for the -privilege- that that software can be called Freedom/libre software) that talks about how software code must be freely shared and how users should have ability to check it and even change it.
while on other hand there is also mentality of that since source code comes from your mind your thinking its then intelectual property ergo developer should have all the freedom since it is his, and that unless the developer decides otherwise it should be protected
and you realy cant say that those who create proprietary software are in control
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SetszawA
The problem with the Free Software Movement is that they keep giving the same message since decades ago. Year after year they kept telling the same -4 basic freedoms and blah blah blah-, and don't get me wrong I support the ideas behind, but please realize that we are in 2020, the world is in another era and requires another way of approaching and telling this message. Humans, in general, has proven over and over again that they are willing to trade privacy and freedom to gain convenience, you cannot expect to convince 2020's people talking about values from the 1980's. You need to find and explain why those values matter NOW, if they do.
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The problem with the Free Software Movement is that they keep giving the same message since decades ago. Year after year they kept telling the same -4 basic freedoms and blah blah blah-, and don't get me wrong I support the ideas behind, but please realize that we are in 2020, the world is in another era and requires another way of approaching and telling this message. Humans, in general, has proven over and over again that they are willing to trade privacy and freedom to gain convenience, you cannot expect to convince 2020's people talking about values from the 1980's. You need to find and explain why those values matter NOW, if they do.
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The
I am recent linux user I started out with pop os. Moved to elementary and finally moved to archlinux and im staying because of you. Mr dt, and this video you just posted didn't actually changed my mind because i believe in free software ever since i using a computer. I suggest for your future contents that you should start promoting free and open source alternatives even more so than usual because most of the packages installed on my system came from your recommendations. I hope we will all win this fight in the future.!
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I am recent linux user I started out with pop os. Moved to elementary and finally moved to archlinux and im staying because of you. Mr dt, and this video you just posted didn't actually changed my mind because i believe in free software ever since i using a computer. I suggest for your future contents that you should start promoting free and open source alternatives even more so than usual because most of the packages installed on my system came from your recommendations. I hope we will all win this fight in the future.!
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Alvin
i talked 2 a friend 1ce about free software. He liked the idea, but when i told him that it means that one has to stop using microsoft products, he said to me, what for? its so troublesome! Many people have told me the same. In response, i say to them, i have never come across a compatibility issue i could not work around. My sister tells me, its bec you're a techie. Shes quite right, but i know many non-techies who taught me how 2 get started in finding ways around compatibility issues.
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i talked 2 a friend 1ce about free software. He liked the idea, but when i told him that it means that one has to stop using microsoft products, he said to me, what for? its so troublesome! Many people have told me the same. In response, i say to them, i have never come across a compatibility issue i could not work around. My sister tells me, its bec you're a techie. Shes quite right, but i know many non-techies who taught me how 2 get started in finding ways around compatibility issues.
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Raavaoli
I agree with what you say that free software is a cause for everyone, but so are lots of these other -SJW- movements like BLM and LGBTQ rights. When the people on the lowest rungs of society are brought up everyone wins because it means we become more equal. Equality is a win in my book, it just depends on your outlook on life, and if it isn't I have to worry about a persons outlook. Anyway just saying. Free software is an awesome thing, i just disagreed with how you put that.
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I agree with what you say that free software is a cause for everyone, but so are lots of these other -SJW- movements like BLM and LGBTQ rights. When the people on the lowest rungs of society are brought up everyone wins because it means we become more equal. Equality is a win in my book, it just depends on your outlook on life, and if it isn't I have to worry about a persons outlook. Anyway just saying. Free software is an awesome thing, i just disagreed with how you put that.
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All
Thanks for your -fight- and all the work your make for Free software and Gnu/Linux
I really love ArcoLinux too: the work the team makes for making Arch accessible to everyone is incredible. Eric is our new Arch Paladin !
I've tested their KDE, Gnome and Xfce ISO's ... Fantastic !!!
From today, I jump into Qtile, and perhaps, as you, I'll never come back to a Full DE or a Non Tiling WM. I'll see.
FSF for ever
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Thanks for your -fight- and all the work your make for Free software and Gnu/Linux
I really love ArcoLinux too: the work the team makes for making Arch accessible to everyone is incredible. Eric is our new Arch Paladin !
I've tested their KDE, Gnome and Xfce ISO's ... Fantastic !!!
From today, I jump into Qtile, and perhaps, as you, I'll never come back to a Full DE or a Non Tiling WM. I'll see.
FSF for ever
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