Ubuntu Is No Longer Exciting. They Should Make These Changes. DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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shawnh
DT I feel the same way and it just isn't Ubuntu, Ubuntu is pretty bad but it's actually you and me that is the boredom. The human mind works by contrast and there isn't a huge lot of giant changes in Linux as of late. As an analogy lets say you get an arcade opening up 100 ft from where you live. Now you go there for 12 years every day, now that is what you had happen, you just got used to it and like anything if done in excess like hrs a day it's going to get boring and I also realize I'm smarter so it's not like that new Zelda game it's like playing that Zelda game for a year and know all the secret rooms how to get around the tough parts with ease. Maybe it's time for BSD with your skill level to break it up a bit or even Gentoo. Maybe it's time for your creative side and build something you know is missing in Linux, sometimes that giving and spending time programming for others sake might bring back that old adrenaline. Personally I'm thinking of when I get my new system to take my imagination and try my hand at Blender on 3D characters and to learn something I haven't learned a thing about yet.
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DT I feel the same way and it just isn't Ubuntu, Ubuntu is pretty bad but it's actually you and me that is the boredom. The human mind works by contrast and there isn't a huge lot of giant changes in Linux as of late. As an analogy lets say you get an arcade opening up 100 ft from where you live. Now you go there for 12 years every day, now that is what you had happen, you just got used to it and like anything if done in excess like hrs a day it's going to get boring and I also realize I'm smarter so it's not like that new Zelda game it's like playing that Zelda game for a year and know all the secret rooms how to get around the tough parts with ease. Maybe it's time for BSD with your skill level to break it up a bit or even Gentoo. Maybe it's time for your creative side and build something you know is missing in Linux, sometimes that giving and spending time programming for others sake might bring back that old adrenaline. Personally I'm thinking of when I get my new system to take my imagination and try my hand at Blender on 3D characters and to learn something I haven't learned a thing about yet.
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praetorxyn
I went straight from Ubuntu to vanilla Arch, and I had only ever installed Ubuntu in VM's at school. So the first Linux distribution I ever installed on my own hardware was vanilla Arch on a Lenovo ThinkPad W550S.
Furthermore, since I'm crazy and wanted to see if I could, this was how that setup worked:
I had a USB drive with an 8192 KB LUKS-encrypted keyfile and an external LUKS header on it. Without that thumb drive being inserted, the machine booted straight into Windows. With the thumb drive inserted, it was mounted as /boot, and you booted into rEFInd. Then when you selected Arch, you would be prompted for a LUKS password, which would be used to decrypt the LUKS-encrypted keyfile, and the decrypted keyfile would be used to decrypt the main partition, and the LVM volumes would be mounted and you'd get into Arch.
It took me a week or two to figure out how to modify Arch's encrypt hook and how to do all that, but it was a great learning experience.
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I went straight from Ubuntu to vanilla Arch, and I had only ever installed Ubuntu in VM's at school. So the first Linux distribution I ever installed on my own hardware was vanilla Arch on a Lenovo ThinkPad W550S.
Furthermore, since I'm crazy and wanted to see if I could, this was how that setup worked:
I had a USB drive with an 8192 KB LUKS-encrypted keyfile and an external LUKS header on it. Without that thumb drive being inserted, the machine booted straight into Windows. With the thumb drive inserted, it was mounted as /boot, and you booted into rEFInd. Then when you selected Arch, you would be prompted for a LUKS password, which would be used to decrypt the LUKS-encrypted keyfile, and the decrypted keyfile would be used to decrypt the main partition, and the LVM volumes would be mounted and you'd get into Arch.
It took me a week or two to figure out how to modify Arch's encrypt hook and how to do all that, but it was a great learning experience.
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Lestibournes
1. Switching to Plasma would make sense especially if they heavily customized it and added all of the missing features from Unity.
2. They don't need rolling release. Snaps make applications be rolling release, and who cares about the base OS at that point? Not regular users. For them a stable secure base OS with up to date applications is what they care about. If Canonical can make the base OS into an immutable image for unbreakable upgrades and everything else be a snap then that would be best. They can also drop the normal releases and only do LTS in my opinion. Either that or relabel the LTS as normal releases and make the current normal releases be experimental releases that do crazy things that won't necessarily get into the next LTS. Although as a side note there is actually a rolling release version.
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1. Switching to Plasma would make sense especially if they heavily customized it and added all of the missing features from Unity.
2. They don't need rolling release. Snaps make applications be rolling release, and who cares about the base OS at that point? Not regular users. For them a stable secure base OS with up to date applications is what they care about. If Canonical can make the base OS into an immutable image for unbreakable upgrades and everything else be a snap then that would be best. They can also drop the normal releases and only do LTS in my opinion. Either that or relabel the LTS as normal releases and make the current normal releases be experimental releases that do crazy things that won't necessarily get into the next LTS. Although as a side note there is actually a rolling release version.
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jameswalker199
I more-or-less agree with your view on the Gnome Foundation. I think some of the ideals they support are good, but they seem to care more about idealism than writing good code - and not to mention that they support some otherwise good movements that fail to condemn the bad actors that commit crimes in their name (not naming names, but you mentioned the big one).
The Gnome desktop, while it has some interesting ideas that can work well for the post-WIMP era, is an overall clunky experience that is produced by people that I increasingly don't want to associate with, not because I necessarily disagree with them, but because they are just too widely political. I don't want that human bloatware.
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I more-or-less agree with your view on the Gnome Foundation. I think some of the ideals they support are good, but they seem to care more about idealism than writing good code - and not to mention that they support some otherwise good movements that fail to condemn the bad actors that commit crimes in their name (not naming names, but you mentioned the big one).
The Gnome desktop, while it has some interesting ideas that can work well for the post-WIMP era, is an overall clunky experience that is produced by people that I increasingly don't want to associate with, not because I necessarily disagree with them, but because they are just too widely political. I don't want that human bloatware.
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Wild
I don't think anyone ever has described Ubuntu as exciting except maybe yourself. Occasionally controversial, but not as much anymore. And I like it that way, boring. And I'm glad they left the Unity dark times and not-invented-here syndrome behind, good riddance. I think one of their reasons for developing and adopting Snaps for desktop packages is to allow them to update apps major versions between releases. Whether Snap is good or evil is another debate entirely.
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I don't think anyone ever has described Ubuntu as exciting except maybe yourself. Occasionally controversial, but not as much anymore. And I like it that way, boring. And I'm glad they left the Unity dark times and not-invented-here syndrome behind, good riddance. I think one of their reasons for developing and adopting Snaps for desktop packages is to allow them to update apps major versions between releases. Whether Snap is good or evil is another debate entirely.
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calonfir
13:32 I disagree. I like gnome better than Unity. Unity was great, but i don't think it has a future anymore. Perhaps another modern d.e. , but i think gnome is already close to the -modern d.e.- A rolling release model it's a hit or miss. The major problem with Gnome on rolling-release distros is gnome-shell-extensions, which is one of the best things in gnome. Half of them works only on older gnome-shells, like in Debian stable or Ubuntu lts
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13:32 I disagree. I like gnome better than Unity. Unity was great, but i don't think it has a future anymore. Perhaps another modern d.e. , but i think gnome is already close to the -modern d.e.- A rolling release model it's a hit or miss. The major problem with Gnome on rolling-release distros is gnome-shell-extensions, which is one of the best things in gnome. Half of them works only on older gnome-shells, like in Debian stable or Ubuntu lts
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shodz
Windows is not exciting. Mac OS X is not exciting. I will assume you have defined exciting as new. Ubuntu has become stable. It has has features developers use. It-s has long term stable releases. For profession use it works fine. It has Snaps which are a big welcome, new installation no longer add libraries to the base Ubuntu libraries. It reduces possible library hell. Ubuntu with Suse are great
Linux distros.
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Windows is not exciting. Mac OS X is not exciting. I will assume you have defined exciting as new. Ubuntu has become stable. It has has features developers use. It-s has long term stable releases. For profession use it works fine. It has Snaps which are a big welcome, new installation no longer add libraries to the base Ubuntu libraries. It reduces possible library hell. Ubuntu with Suse are great
Linux distros.
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Shawn
Who cares if Ubuntu isn't -exciting- anymore? The purpose of an OS isn't to be exciting. The purpose of an OS is to run your goddamned programs without crashing. Wanting OSes to be exciting is the reason the Linux community is fractured into a zillion different fly-by-night distros instead of everyone focusing on making a handful of really good distros.
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Who cares if Ubuntu isn't -exciting- anymore? The purpose of an OS isn't to be exciting. The purpose of an OS is to run your goddamned programs without crashing. Wanting OSes to be exciting is the reason the Linux community is fractured into a zillion different fly-by-night distros instead of everyone focusing on making a handful of really good distros.
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zen
i tried manjaro budgie just this week, after a couple of years. it worked better than the last time, but the boot process with an encrypted boot volume is 2-3 times longer than ubuntu.
it also seemed to reset settings such as auto login every few boots.
ubuntu may be boring, but its pretty polished and just works - thats why im using it i guess.
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i tried manjaro budgie just this week, after a couple of years. it worked better than the last time, but the boot process with an encrypted boot volume is 2-3 times longer than ubuntu.
it also seemed to reset settings such as auto login every few boots.
ubuntu may be boring, but its pretty polished and just works - thats why im using it i guess.
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Lestibournes
I'm still using Unity with Ubuntu 18.04 and the Numix theme and Papirus icons. Works great. GNOME Shell is okay. I like their overview mode, although it needs a category view. It also looks nicer. However, Unity is better overall, and it hasn't been updated since 2017.
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I'm still using Unity with Ubuntu 18.04 and the Numix theme and Papirus icons. Works great. GNOME Shell is okay. I like their overview mode, although it needs a category view. It also looks nicer. However, Unity is better overall, and it hasn't been updated since 2017.
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