Ubuntu, Then Arch. It's The Road So Many Of Us Travel. DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Wandering
Ubuntu may be one of the ones that get you in. But, once they begin to learn what's under the hood and what they can do with Linux, they start looking for other distributions. I too started on Ubuntu in the early 2010's. But after about a couple weeks to a month I started looking at other distros. And believe it or not even then I ended up settling on Manjaro. I used that for about two or three years. And every chance I got I spread the word about Manjaro because I had realized even then it was going in the direction Ubuntu originally wanted to go in but ended up going in an entirely different direction than intended. So I helped quite a bit on getting the word out about Manjaro. Manjaro is the Linux distro that's just light enough on the hardware while being powerful enough to get the job done that most people are looking to do. Especially for those who are looking to get away from Windows.
When people start looking for another distro they usually end up looking at the parent distros they were forked off of. Arch was a little out of my league at the time because I was still trying my best to wrap my head around everything. So I went for the next best thing I could find, Manjaro, because I wanted to at least give Arch a try somewhat and get a feel for it. I loved it. And I do admit that when I finally bought a new laptop and it came with Windows 10 I ran that for a few years as is. But Linux was always sitting in the back of my mind and man did I miss it. Then I ended up getting another laptop because the other one basically burned up. So, I took the old 1TB SSD out of the old laptop and installed it on my new laptop to go along side my M.2. I wiped the 1TB SSD and ended up installing Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on it and have been running it for about a year now. Only because I really wanted to give Ubuntu a real fair shake. But recently I've been, again, looking at Manjaro. And not only it, but also Debian and Fedora both, and another that just may come as a surprise somewhat, a Unix. FreeBSD.
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Ubuntu may be one of the ones that get you in. But, once they begin to learn what's under the hood and what they can do with Linux, they start looking for other distributions. I too started on Ubuntu in the early 2010's. But after about a couple weeks to a month I started looking at other distros. And believe it or not even then I ended up settling on Manjaro. I used that for about two or three years. And every chance I got I spread the word about Manjaro because I had realized even then it was going in the direction Ubuntu originally wanted to go in but ended up going in an entirely different direction than intended. So I helped quite a bit on getting the word out about Manjaro. Manjaro is the Linux distro that's just light enough on the hardware while being powerful enough to get the job done that most people are looking to do. Especially for those who are looking to get away from Windows.
When people start looking for another distro they usually end up looking at the parent distros they were forked off of. Arch was a little out of my league at the time because I was still trying my best to wrap my head around everything. So I went for the next best thing I could find, Manjaro, because I wanted to at least give Arch a try somewhat and get a feel for it. I loved it. And I do admit that when I finally bought a new laptop and it came with Windows 10 I ran that for a few years as is. But Linux was always sitting in the back of my mind and man did I miss it. Then I ended up getting another laptop because the other one basically burned up. So, I took the old 1TB SSD out of the old laptop and installed it on my new laptop to go along side my M.2. I wiped the 1TB SSD and ended up installing Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on it and have been running it for about a year now. Only because I really wanted to give Ubuntu a real fair shake. But recently I've been, again, looking at Manjaro. And not only it, but also Debian and Fedora both, and another that just may come as a surprise somewhat, a Unix. FreeBSD.
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Chris
There's another parallel between Linux and Gaming as well. It feels like there's the same 2 camps. The just works users and the tinkerers. Taking Linux out of the equation here, on one end you have people that really enjoy simple just works games with clear endgoals like call of duty, apex legends, etc. On the other end you have MMOs and shooters with complex survival mechanics, open sandbox games with zero goal but people still find a way to make them amazing by banding together. Same thing with game mods. Cyberpunk 2077 nowadays is playable on PC out of the box. Everything runs, everything works for the most part now, it's playable for a mediocre just works experience. However, even a single mod added to this game transforms it from meh to holy shit I can't wait to progress further. You see the same thing in engineering. A LOT of my colleagues find much more joy before reaching the end goal. Sure it feels good to have all checks green but building that system to make that happen is more satisfying to them; and to myself. It feels like my reward structure is messed up but I don't think that's the case. I think I just really like to be overwhelmed with information and things to do with no instructions. It forces me to think algorithmically, ignore the anxiety of overwhelming things, and break things down to the absolute basics and build up from there. Eventually if I look at everything as a whole again, it's not overwhelming at all. Now, theres still a lot to do but I know if I stay focused on building layer by layer and making sure each layer is perfect, THATS what keeps me going.
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There's another parallel between Linux and Gaming as well. It feels like there's the same 2 camps. The just works users and the tinkerers. Taking Linux out of the equation here, on one end you have people that really enjoy simple just works games with clear endgoals like call of duty, apex legends, etc. On the other end you have MMOs and shooters with complex survival mechanics, open sandbox games with zero goal but people still find a way to make them amazing by banding together. Same thing with game mods. Cyberpunk 2077 nowadays is playable on PC out of the box. Everything runs, everything works for the most part now, it's playable for a mediocre just works experience. However, even a single mod added to this game transforms it from meh to holy shit I can't wait to progress further. You see the same thing in engineering. A LOT of my colleagues find much more joy before reaching the end goal. Sure it feels good to have all checks green but building that system to make that happen is more satisfying to them; and to myself. It feels like my reward structure is messed up but I don't think that's the case. I think I just really like to be overwhelmed with information and things to do with no instructions. It forces me to think algorithmically, ignore the anxiety of overwhelming things, and break things down to the absolute basics and build up from there. Eventually if I look at everything as a whole again, it's not overwhelming at all. Now, theres still a lot to do but I know if I stay focused on building layer by layer and making sure each layer is perfect, THATS what keeps me going.
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afelias
I feel so called out by this because I started on Ubuntu just before GNOME 3 came out. GNOME 3 pissed me off so much I just ran into the deep end. I tried Mint at the time and didn't really like it, ended up on pure Arch and messed up enough times to quit. Then I found Antergos (RIP) and liked it a lot. When Antergos died I tried running Ubuntu MATE on one machine and Arch (with MATE also) on another.
Honestly though I saw one of your other videos about the whole thing about Ubuntu's popularity and how it never recovered after GNOME 3, and now I want to try using Mint again with Cinnamon and KDE. I'm no pure Linux user, I generally have dual-boots (mostly to play games on Windows really), so I'm halfway between a newbie (I never have time to really fix my problems) and an experienced user (I generally know what I'm doing and programming isn't alien to me). Coming back to Linux Mint feels like my own kind of new story arc in this whole thing.
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I feel so called out by this because I started on Ubuntu just before GNOME 3 came out. GNOME 3 pissed me off so much I just ran into the deep end. I tried Mint at the time and didn't really like it, ended up on pure Arch and messed up enough times to quit. Then I found Antergos (RIP) and liked it a lot. When Antergos died I tried running Ubuntu MATE on one machine and Arch (with MATE also) on another.
Honestly though I saw one of your other videos about the whole thing about Ubuntu's popularity and how it never recovered after GNOME 3, and now I want to try using Mint again with Cinnamon and KDE. I'm no pure Linux user, I generally have dual-boots (mostly to play games on Windows really), so I'm halfway between a newbie (I never have time to really fix my problems) and an experienced user (I generally know what I'm doing and programming isn't alien to me). Coming back to Linux Mint feels like my own kind of new story arc in this whole thing.
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Des
three years ago it was the first time I'd tried Linux (mint by linux-mind friend's advice) after more than 20 years using Windows (since 3.11) - and I'm still a -plug&play- guy. Mint has the mess of unknown programs. I'd lost there, and back to windows, stating to use Powershell time to time... This week I try Manjaro (I've stopped on this distro after 3days binge-watching props and cons), [and] because I understand that naked Arch requires some knowledge I haven't got yet. I tried KDE firstly - nah, but XFCE is pretty good... and simple for me. I haven't any troubles to use it in parallel learning how to work in Linux. Methinks, Arch is what I need tomorrow, but Manjaro is for today. Even my productivity is increased because I didn't install some distraction software that usually pre-installed on windows and e.g. windows-user-friendly Linux distros (like Mint, Garuda, and etc.).
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three years ago it was the first time I'd tried Linux (mint by linux-mind friend's advice) after more than 20 years using Windows (since 3.11) - and I'm still a -plug&play- guy. Mint has the mess of unknown programs. I'd lost there, and back to windows, stating to use Powershell time to time... This week I try Manjaro (I've stopped on this distro after 3days binge-watching props and cons), [and] because I understand that naked Arch requires some knowledge I haven't got yet. I tried KDE firstly - nah, but XFCE is pretty good... and simple for me. I haven't any troubles to use it in parallel learning how to work in Linux. Methinks, Arch is what I need tomorrow, but Manjaro is for today. Even my productivity is increased because I didn't install some distraction software that usually pre-installed on windows and e.g. windows-user-friendly Linux distros (like Mint, Garuda, and etc.).
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Raffels
and then there is the end stage. There comes this special sunday morning when you do your pacman -Syyu, and you look at 15 trillion updates, and you lean back and think... -I don't want to do this anymore-. And that's the moment where you GO BACK to Debian. You grab a netinstall, do a minimum Debian install, slap your whatever environent you use on it, pull your dotfiles from your git and you know you are home.. finaly.
Debian is where it all started for me in 1995, and Debian is where it ends :)
I still love Arch though..., but there are times you need that peace of mind and my Debian with just the parts I want, just like I did Arch, gives me exactly that. Home :)
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and then there is the end stage. There comes this special sunday morning when you do your pacman -Syyu, and you look at 15 trillion updates, and you lean back and think... -I don't want to do this anymore-. And that's the moment where you GO BACK to Debian. You grab a netinstall, do a minimum Debian install, slap your whatever environent you use on it, pull your dotfiles from your git and you know you are home.. finaly.
Debian is where it all started for me in 1995, and Debian is where it ends :)
I still love Arch though..., but there are times you need that peace of mind and my Debian with just the parts I want, just like I did Arch, gives me exactly that. Home :)
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Chalplec
Ubuntu - I got a new house. It's made of particle board and failed inspection but it's new right????
Debian - I'm buying a fixer upper and trying to do some DIY renovations.
Arch - I know what I'm doing. I'm going to design my house and get the supplies and hire some contractors and build it my way from scratch.
Gentoo - Oh yeah? I'm going to cut down my own trees and build my house from source.
LFS - Ohhhh yeah? I'm going to plant my own trees and eventually I'll have a house.
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Ubuntu - I got a new house. It's made of particle board and failed inspection but it's new right????
Debian - I'm buying a fixer upper and trying to do some DIY renovations.
Arch - I know what I'm doing. I'm going to design my house and get the supplies and hire some contractors and build it my way from scratch.
Gentoo - Oh yeah? I'm going to cut down my own trees and build my house from source.
LFS - Ohhhh yeah? I'm going to plant my own trees and eventually I'll have a house.
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Richee
I've done the same route, got bored with Ubuntu, then went with Debian. Started to find issues running the combination of software I wanted and resorting to snaps didn't sit well with me. Stopped distro hopping on manjaro KDE and have stuck with it for about two years. AUR is what makes the difference for me and the privilege of saying -I run arch btw- -
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I've done the same route, got bored with Ubuntu, then went with Debian. Started to find issues running the combination of software I wanted and resorting to snaps didn't sit well with me. Stopped distro hopping on manjaro KDE and have stuck with it for about two years. AUR is what makes the difference for me and the privilege of saying -I run arch btw- -
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Gabriel
Arch is so popular because every one using it has to tell you to make sure every one else nows, jk lol. I tweek and customize my os and I think most linux users do no matter what distro they use, I don't think it really matters. Being backed by a for profit company is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Arch is so popular because every one using it has to tell you to make sure every one else nows, jk lol. I tweek and customize my os and I think most linux users do no matter what distro they use, I don't think it really matters. Being backed by a for profit company is not necessarily a bad thing.
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TheRosswise
I have done an arch install, but really just to learn. I don't like the idea of updating without testing first, I love being bleeding-edge but I don't want to spend most of my time trying to fix what the new update broke. So I settled on Manjaro, kind of the best of both worlds.
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I have done an arch install, but really just to learn. I don't like the idea of updating without testing first, I love being bleeding-edge but I don't want to spend most of my time trying to fix what the new update broke. So I settled on Manjaro, kind of the best of both worlds.
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digiver
About 10 years ago, I tried Linux but gave up. Couple years ago, got back into Linux and distro hopped. After trying popular distros and DEs, ended up using Manjaro and EndeavourOS, not because I want to control and tweak, but just because these two worked for me.
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About 10 years ago, I tried Linux but gave up. Couple years ago, got back into Linux and distro hopped. After trying popular distros and DEs, ended up using Manjaro and EndeavourOS, not because I want to control and tweak, but just because these two worked for me.
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