Mozilla VPN Makes Absolutely NO SENSE - Techlore
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1st - They are open about being a white label VPN. Directly on their website! They are by no means trying to conceal it.
2nd - You said correctly that the biggest chunk of their income is based on Google's default search engine. Why is it so wrong that they're a looking for other sources of income like reselling a product which happens to provide services they advocate for (internet privacy) and therefore stop being so dependent on Google?
3rd - Why should I go to Mullvad directly if I get the same product 10% cheaper on Mozilla's side? Why is getting it discounted a bad thing?
And last but not least, even if it was the same price as the original, buying it from Mozilla knowing you are supporting their business would already make sense. Why would you want it to fail in the first place? It provides the only real alternative to Google's internet browsing monopoly at the moment.
Date: 2022-04-15
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Nanozet
What doesn't make sense is this video
Mozilla VPN could be seen as Mozilla Monitor, Mozilla Monitor is literally -Have I been pwned? -, but still makes sense because more people get to know it thanks to Mozilla. I didn't even know that Mullvad existed.
Also, it's hard for people to donate, but if you give something that have some value it's way easier, for example I pay Bitwarden's premium subscription and I don't need that subscription, it's like a donation for giving such a good service for free, but I know I wouldn't donate. Mozilla VPN is perfect to start making money on their own. People who are already using VPNs maybe change to Mozilla's or start using it to suppor them.
And last but not least people trust in Mozilla more than in Mullvad and if Mozilla trust in Mullvad people trust in Mullvad is a win-win for both companies.
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What doesn't make sense is this video
Mozilla VPN could be seen as Mozilla Monitor, Mozilla Monitor is literally -Have I been pwned? -, but still makes sense because more people get to know it thanks to Mozilla. I didn't even know that Mullvad existed.
Also, it's hard for people to donate, but if you give something that have some value it's way easier, for example I pay Bitwarden's premium subscription and I don't need that subscription, it's like a donation for giving such a good service for free, but I know I wouldn't donate. Mozilla VPN is perfect to start making money on their own. People who are already using VPNs maybe change to Mozilla's or start using it to suppor them.
And last but not least people trust in Mozilla more than in Mullvad and if Mozilla trust in Mullvad people trust in Mullvad is a win-win for both companies.
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Joseph
There is a lot of FOSS, Security, and Privacy companies shooting themselves in the foot actively right now. Really not sure why these CEOs and boards are so blind to the market. Did they really not bother educating themselves over the last 20 years? It's not 1990s guys, get with the industry. It's like how LibreOffice refuses to update their UI from the Windows XP days. It's genuinely ugly and pushes people away as many average users have access to Office for free already through work or school. Modernize, gain users, increase donations, keep project alive. The average user doesn't care about FOSS, and the average user is where the money is. Really simple, niche companies die quickly when their userbase is such a small one. This move by Mozilla is #Boomer all the way.
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There is a lot of FOSS, Security, and Privacy companies shooting themselves in the foot actively right now. Really not sure why these CEOs and boards are so blind to the market. Did they really not bother educating themselves over the last 20 years? It's not 1990s guys, get with the industry. It's like how LibreOffice refuses to update their UI from the Windows XP days. It's genuinely ugly and pushes people away as many average users have access to Office for free already through work or school. Modernize, gain users, increase donations, keep project alive. The average user doesn't care about FOSS, and the average user is where the money is. Really simple, niche companies die quickly when their userbase is such a small one. This move by Mozilla is #Boomer all the way.
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Daniel
Dude, give it a break. Putting the Mozilla name on top of Mullvad does have value. A lot of people know and trust the name of Mozilla, whereas almost nobody has heard of Mullvad and navigating the vast sea of VPNs is legitimately quite difficult. So Mozilla is slapping their name and reputation on top of one of the best VPNs in the world and giving it to people at a 10% discount. How in the world is that a -scam-? They are not violating the trust of their users; they are being good stewards of their brand. They have navigated the confusing world of a million and one VPNs, identified the cream of the crop, and geared their users toward it with a 10% discount. The users are winning in every possible sense.
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Dude, give it a break. Putting the Mozilla name on top of Mullvad does have value. A lot of people know and trust the name of Mozilla, whereas almost nobody has heard of Mullvad and navigating the vast sea of VPNs is legitimately quite difficult. So Mozilla is slapping their name and reputation on top of one of the best VPNs in the world and giving it to people at a 10% discount. How in the world is that a -scam-? They are not violating the trust of their users; they are being good stewards of their brand. They have navigated the confusing world of a million and one VPNs, identified the cream of the crop, and geared their users toward it with a 10% discount. The users are winning in every possible sense.
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Green
Mozilla has to make their money somehow. The VPN is one of the products they're providing as one of the ways to de-couple from Google, which you point out. I agree going with Mullvad would be a better way to go and it is odd. Mozilla should make their own email service like Proton and even cloud service too. They tried making a cloud-based note app which I liked but, unfortunately, it was recently sacked. Mozilla has got to do better than this.
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Mozilla has to make their money somehow. The VPN is one of the products they're providing as one of the ways to de-couple from Google, which you point out. I agree going with Mullvad would be a better way to go and it is odd. Mozilla should make their own email service like Proton and even cloud service too. They tried making a cloud-based note app which I liked but, unfortunately, it was recently sacked. Mozilla has got to do better than this.
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itech
One thing that I never see commented on regarding Google paying Mozilla is that it allows them to do very anti-consumer, monopolistic behavior and get away with it. If they ever get criticized for monopolistic behavior on their Chrome browser (which I'd argue they should be for a plethora of reasons, they can just say -well they can use Firefox which we fund-.
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One thing that I never see commented on regarding Google paying Mozilla is that it allows them to do very anti-consumer, monopolistic behavior and get away with it. If they ever get criticized for monopolistic behavior on their Chrome browser (which I'd argue they should be for a plethora of reasons, they can just say -well they can use Firefox which we fund-.
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Adam
Actually, even if Mozilla VPN is reskinned Mullvad it might make sense for some uses. Firefox is my main browser to keep all the bookmarks etc. Mozilla Lockwise is my main password-safe app and I would like the VPN that I can log in with a Mozilla account. It would be the first VPN I would like to use on a daily basis when they come to Poland.
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Actually, even if Mozilla VPN is reskinned Mullvad it might make sense for some uses. Firefox is my main browser to keep all the bookmarks etc. Mozilla Lockwise is my main password-safe app and I would like the VPN that I can log in with a Mozilla account. It would be the first VPN I would like to use on a daily basis when they come to Poland.
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MuZicON
Please make a video about privacy friendly secure note taking apps(open source preferred.
And do mention about Google keep(-, Evernote, ms onenote, simple note, standard notes, joplin, tasks. org, omni motes. and every other popular note apps.
And m interested which app u do use-
I'll be waiting.
LoL(ove-----) from INDIA.
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Please make a video about privacy friendly secure note taking apps(open source preferred.
And do mention about Google keep(-, Evernote, ms onenote, simple note, standard notes, joplin, tasks. org, omni motes. and every other popular note apps.
And m interested which app u do use-
I'll be waiting.
LoL(ove-----) from INDIA.
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Mosti
I wonder if creating your own VPN service that operates on a VPS is far more secure and protects your privacy more than buying normal VPNs? I'm currently using an AWS EC2 instance to host a VPN service for myself and was unsure. I mean, Amazon might still know what I browse at the end of the day, but yeah, I don't really know.
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I wonder if creating your own VPN service that operates on a VPS is far more secure and protects your privacy more than buying normal VPNs? I'm currently using an AWS EC2 instance to host a VPN service for myself and was unsure. I mean, Amazon might still know what I browse at the end of the day, but yeah, I don't really know.
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Commenter
Be responsible with the stuff you promote my friend. Getting rid of
Firefox will only let Google and other browsers dominate and likely
continue doing the same or worse. Be responsible, that some uneducated
dude may listen to this crap and stop using Firewall, ultimately hurting
us all.
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Be responsible with the stuff you promote my friend. Getting rid of
Firefox will only let Google and other browsers dominate and likely
continue doing the same or worse. Be responsible, that some uneducated
dude may listen to this crap and stop using Firewall, ultimately hurting
us all.
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