Core i9-9900K performance, Intel cancels 10nm? Q&A - The Full Nerd Ep. 73
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Date: 2022-03-15
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DR. NEGA
who ever report it. seems doesn't even know whats really gonna on cause last info i got. its 10nm launch date for march 2019. this after ces 2019 jan reveal schedual for icelake process reveal. then plans for tiger lake and while cascade lake boards has releases with 28 core xeon node, must be getting too close for release. its big die for 14nm. while 10nm is little smaller for maintstream users. not sure intel gonna keep i9 naming. cause they are moving up to a 10. like i10 or called it different branch of new cpu's while selling i9 and i7 along side. thats what happening in their decision. only thing was cancel is cannonlake for actual unreleased report cause coffeelake and cannon lake are the same architecture only difference 8 cores supposed be cannonlake while its 6 core supposed be coffeelake. well they just combined both. while icelake is different process tech and newer caches for lv1 and lv2 code increases. more cache in lv1 and lv2 to process avx512 instructions. the logic is trying pack more transistor in smaller area that nobody has done yet. get more instruction per cycle. lot more in lv1 caches code lines
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who ever report it. seems doesn't even know whats really gonna on cause last info i got. its 10nm launch date for march 2019. this after ces 2019 jan reveal schedual for icelake process reveal. then plans for tiger lake and while cascade lake boards has releases with 28 core xeon node, must be getting too close for release. its big die for 14nm. while 10nm is little smaller for maintstream users. not sure intel gonna keep i9 naming. cause they are moving up to a 10. like i10 or called it different branch of new cpu's while selling i9 and i7 along side. thats what happening in their decision. only thing was cancel is cannonlake for actual unreleased report cause coffeelake and cannon lake are the same architecture only difference 8 cores supposed be cannonlake while its 6 core supposed be coffeelake. well they just combined both. while icelake is different process tech and newer caches for lv1 and lv2 code increases. more cache in lv1 and lv2 to process avx512 instructions. the logic is trying pack more transistor in smaller area that nobody has done yet. get more instruction per cycle. lot more in lv1 caches code lines
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Junker
I remember rambus. I remember the patent fights. It's unfortunate that the whole thing turned into a pile because Rambus was way ahead of its time in many respects. Fewer pins (far fewer pins, higher bandwidth, and it would have been more future-proof if it had been adopted. Its really too bad. Rambus overplayed their hand (by an order of magnitude) in trying to squeeze money out of literally everyone and once the lawsuits started flying, that was the end.
-Matt
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I remember rambus. I remember the patent fights. It's unfortunate that the whole thing turned into a pile because Rambus was way ahead of its time in many respects. Fewer pins (far fewer pins, higher bandwidth, and it would have been more future-proof if it had been adopted. Its really too bad. Rambus overplayed their hand (by an order of magnitude) in trying to squeeze money out of literally everyone and once the lawsuits started flying, that was the end.
-Matt
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Larry
If anyone is really considering a 9900k, I'd urge them to wait for Zen2. Even if you are an intel zombie and won't consider anything else, the prices will come down by then. It gives you enough time to buy the $600 -Godlike- MOMO you'll need to get 8700k+ performance out of it. a 1000w PSU to feed it, and a chiller to cool it. The whole-system price of the 9900k is just ridiculous.
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If anyone is really considering a 9900k, I'd urge them to wait for Zen2. Even if you are an intel zombie and won't consider anything else, the prices will come down by then. It gives you enough time to buy the $600 -Godlike- MOMO you'll need to get 8700k+ performance out of it. a 1000w PSU to feed it, and a chiller to cool it. The whole-system price of the 9900k is just ridiculous.
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Luredreier
23: 39
That's debatable.
Thing is, AMD actually has a -higher- multi-threaded IPC (the IPC for the core as a whole when -both- threads are used instead of just one of the two.
Up to 25% higher actually.
Of course it depends on the workload (and how hard you're slamming into the bottlenecks of each arcitecture you're running on with any given workload)
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23: 39
That's debatable.
Thing is, AMD actually has a -higher- multi-threaded IPC (the IPC for the core as a whole when -both- threads are used instead of just one of the two.
Up to 25% higher actually.
Of course it depends on the workload (and how hard you're slamming into the bottlenecks of each arcitecture you're running on with any given workload)
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Randall
2700x with a GTX1080ti at 4k running Shadow of the Tomb Raider runs well and is on par with my systems with I7 5930k, I7 7700k, i7 8700k, I7 8700 and the I5 8400. With most 4k monitors at 60hz I believe that if you avoid the screen tearing you do not need to upgrade the processor but the graphics card. I also run all of my Gaming systems with at least of 32gb of ram.
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2700x with a GTX1080ti at 4k running Shadow of the Tomb Raider runs well and is on par with my systems with I7 5930k, I7 7700k, i7 8700k, I7 8700 and the I5 8400. With most 4k monitors at 60hz I believe that if you avoid the screen tearing you do not need to upgrade the processor but the graphics card. I also run all of my Gaming systems with at least of 32gb of ram.
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Drew
I had to send the part about the best VR CPU 2500k part to a buddy, he plays VR and was using a 2500(not K) and Brads reaction was on perfectly on point. I just sold him my x370 mobo and he upgraded to a Ryzen 5. I would like to see some PC World coverage of VR particularly the new Samsung Oddessy+ thats supposed to give the screen door effect the boot
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I had to send the part about the best VR CPU 2500k part to a buddy, he plays VR and was using a 2500(not K) and Brads reaction was on perfectly on point. I just sold him my x370 mobo and he upgraded to a Ryzen 5. I would like to see some PC World coverage of VR particularly the new Samsung Oddessy+ thats supposed to give the screen door effect the boot
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Drew
I agree with Shadows of the Tomb Raider using multi cores well. I just got my RTX2070 in and have been enjoying playing it maxed out. I have the Ryzen 1700 and have been watching hardware monitor while playing. That game is definitely making good use of alot of cores. I also like how in the bench mark it shows the % of time your GPU bound.
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I agree with Shadows of the Tomb Raider using multi cores well. I just got my RTX2070 in and have been enjoying playing it maxed out. I have the Ryzen 1700 and have been watching hardware monitor while playing. That game is definitely making good use of alot of cores. I also like how in the bench mark it shows the % of time your GPU bound.
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Lio
Great team! really good to follow your show. This is a really good mix of technical information and fun around building. Absolutely loved your Dune PC case build. So funny in instructive; Love Eilena presence and advice. Hug from France
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Great team! really good to follow your show. This is a really good mix of technical information and fun around building. Absolutely loved your Dune PC case build. So funny in instructive; Love Eilena presence and advice. Hug from France
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etsteegers
So could the 9900k temp difference just be bad QC at Intel STIM aplication facility? and a bit of ohh shit we cant produce enough for real QC. Like they did with giving only base and single core boost numbers.
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So could the 9900k temp difference just be bad QC at Intel STIM aplication facility? and a bit of ohh shit we cant produce enough for real QC. Like they did with giving only base and single core boost numbers.
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Kynikos
The higher temps of some reviewers comes from them using boards with more robust VRM designs that avoid throttling, reviewers using 4 stage VRM boards have pretty much all seen lower temps AND lower performance.
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The higher temps of some reviewers comes from them using boards with more robust VRM designs that avoid throttling, reviewers using 4 stage VRM boards have pretty much all seen lower temps AND lower performance.
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