Intel talks Optane & future of storage - The Full Nerd special edition
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Date: 2022-03-15
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Peter
Make Optane better compatible with Ryzen and I might consider buying it. ;)
I remember the shady business with Intel Inside, bribing OEM's and shops (Mediamarkt, Best Buy) to not sell systems with Intel-CPU's, how they cut off server CPU's to Compaq after Compaq started to sell systems with AMD CPU's, how Intel took revenge on a company which sued them for patent-infringement (won by that company) by buying up a semiconductor company which it depended upon.
I care about that because it disadvantaged to regular consumer. After all, it took a lot of money from AMD, making them less competitive after their unfortunate gamble with the one FPS per two cores in the mid 00's, forcing them to split off GF and being stuck on a less competitive node (more money => better chances at getting a better node faster or new armicro-architecture faster. No Intel CPUs for me for a long time in the future, especially not after I recently was forced to buy a laptop with an Intel CPU (8250U) given that the OEM asked $100 more for the AMD equivalent without a graphics card! Fortunately that has changed, now OEM's ask a more fair price for the AMD equivalents and soon (Zen2) Ryzen will outperform anything that Intel has to offer for CPU's.
But I am willing to buy other products from Intel if it makes sense so better support it for the other platform as good as you can. By the way, I like it how these days Intel copies everything from AMD. The presentation, the casually dressed people on stage (that took some time, they didn't copy that immediately, the fancy box, the more cores, the showing regular gamers, the personality thing (top executives talking like they are regular people and visiting the media. Hell, Intel even buys AMD-employees. I will give them this: it makes the introduction of new products more interesting. It is clear which company has the lead for CPU's at this moment. Yes, Intel still has the performance crown but Intel knows very well that that won't last long. In 2019 they will certainly loose it for servers, probably also for desktops and laptops given that their 10 nm. node keeps getting delayed and keeps getting larger all the time.
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Make Optane better compatible with Ryzen and I might consider buying it. ;)
I remember the shady business with Intel Inside, bribing OEM's and shops (Mediamarkt, Best Buy) to not sell systems with Intel-CPU's, how they cut off server CPU's to Compaq after Compaq started to sell systems with AMD CPU's, how Intel took revenge on a company which sued them for patent-infringement (won by that company) by buying up a semiconductor company which it depended upon.
I care about that because it disadvantaged to regular consumer. After all, it took a lot of money from AMD, making them less competitive after their unfortunate gamble with the one FPS per two cores in the mid 00's, forcing them to split off GF and being stuck on a less competitive node (more money => better chances at getting a better node faster or new armicro-architecture faster. No Intel CPUs for me for a long time in the future, especially not after I recently was forced to buy a laptop with an Intel CPU (8250U) given that the OEM asked $100 more for the AMD equivalent without a graphics card! Fortunately that has changed, now OEM's ask a more fair price for the AMD equivalents and soon (Zen2) Ryzen will outperform anything that Intel has to offer for CPU's.
But I am willing to buy other products from Intel if it makes sense so better support it for the other platform as good as you can. By the way, I like it how these days Intel copies everything from AMD. The presentation, the casually dressed people on stage (that took some time, they didn't copy that immediately, the fancy box, the more cores, the showing regular gamers, the personality thing (top executives talking like they are regular people and visiting the media. Hell, Intel even buys AMD-employees. I will give them this: it makes the introduction of new products more interesting. It is clear which company has the lead for CPU's at this moment. Yes, Intel still has the performance crown but Intel knows very well that that won't last long. In 2019 they will certainly loose it for servers, probably also for desktops and laptops given that their 10 nm. node keeps getting delayed and keeps getting larger all the time.
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Callum
Having used a 480GB Intel 905P Optane drive for storing SQL database and application files on a moderately basic ITX 'workstation' (8700k with 32GBs of RAM) for the last few months, I have got to say, I think a lot of people are seriously misunderstanding/underestimating the capabilities of Optane drives. The decrease in read/write latency over the larger databases and application file sets has been amazing for my workflows and system configuration.
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Having used a 480GB Intel 905P Optane drive for storing SQL database and application files on a moderately basic ITX 'workstation' (8700k with 32GBs of RAM) for the last few months, I have got to say, I think a lot of people are seriously misunderstanding/underestimating the capabilities of Optane drives. The decrease in read/write latency over the larger databases and application file sets has been amazing for my workflows and system configuration.
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treeSway
I was just reading an article about Cascade Lake SP and Optane, and curious if you had any insight as to whether this upcoming release of Scalable Xeons will have a successor to the Xeon Gold 6154 with 18 cores with a base clock at 3. 0ghz?
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I was just reading an article about Cascade Lake SP and Optane, and curious if you had any insight as to whether this upcoming release of Scalable Xeons will have a successor to the Xeon Gold 6154 with 18 cores with a base clock at 3. 0ghz?
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Lotus
Honestly, hdd still has 5-10 years for consumers, why? Wd and seagate apart, you can get for storage purposes, several Terabytes of storage, with you, locally for as long as you want.
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Honestly, hdd still has 5-10 years for consumers, why? Wd and seagate apart, you can get for storage purposes, several Terabytes of storage, with you, locally for as long as you want.
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psionx1
optane dimms are nice but the real question for me is if the -caching- software is better then using the optane drive as swap space.
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optane dimms are nice but the real question for me is if the -caching- software is better then using the optane drive as swap space.
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