Zoom AI Battle: Ryzen AI vs Nvidia Broadcast AI
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Date: 2023-07-03
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cryora
They may be fun, meme-generating gimmicks, but not really true solutions, other than the fact that the typical Zoom user has a very low standard on acceptable camera quality. Companies are coming up with webcams that rival the quality of photography cameras, and can produce natural background blur. Implementing that same technology onto laptops is what I would see should be the next step. AI may be good at generating very realistic looking photos after a lot of user input, but they are far from where they need to be able to generate realistic videos in real time. You could have easily photoshopped an image of an open eye, and use an eye tracker to place that shopped image to get a similar looking result.
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They may be fun, meme-generating gimmicks, but not really true solutions, other than the fact that the typical Zoom user has a very low standard on acceptable camera quality. Companies are coming up with webcams that rival the quality of photography cameras, and can produce natural background blur. Implementing that same technology onto laptops is what I would see should be the next step. AI may be good at generating very realistic looking photos after a lot of user input, but they are far from where they need to be able to generate realistic videos in real time. You could have easily photoshopped an image of an open eye, and use an eye tracker to place that shopped image to get a similar looking result.
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MrVipitis
Intels virtual camera is broken in the current driver. But openVINO should handle this easily on CPU or iGPU and likely on the upcoming VPU.
As a researcher that is working towards benchmarking models, it's a completely different. Eventhough we consider human evaluation as gold standard, there is more and more discovery that shows current Benchmarks don't really agree with human graders (Evtikhiev et al, 2023). And more and more evaluations are proposed that just use larger language models as graders.
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Intels virtual camera is broken in the current driver. But openVINO should handle this easily on CPU or iGPU and likely on the upcoming VPU.
As a researcher that is working towards benchmarking models, it's a completely different. Eventhough we consider human evaluation as gold standard, there is more and more discovery that shows current Benchmarks don't really agree with human graders (Evtikhiev et al, 2023). And more and more evaluations are proposed that just use larger language models as graders.
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Madness1
I really didn't like the Studio Effects blur, it made me nauseous. Though, I can't exactly explain why. Nvidia Broadcast looks great, though the telemetry sucks. Zoom's version looks the worst, and I would never use it. Nvidia eye tracking is great, but kinda creepy. AMD's version is kind of weak, and not really that effective. Ideally you'd want something in-between the two.
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I really didn't like the Studio Effects blur, it made me nauseous. Though, I can't exactly explain why. Nvidia Broadcast looks great, though the telemetry sucks. Zoom's version looks the worst, and I would never use it. Nvidia eye tracking is great, but kinda creepy. AMD's version is kind of weak, and not really that effective. Ideally you'd want something in-between the two.
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Egwene22
So glad you cover practical topics for everyday use! It's great seeing Cinebench scores and all, but knowing about the state of USB4 and the real-world applications of efficient, integrated AI accelerators for video calls is what makes me look forward to getting my Ryzen Framework laptop!
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So glad you cover practical topics for everyday use! It's great seeing Cinebench scores and all, but knowing about the state of USB4 and the real-world applications of efficient, integrated AI accelerators for video calls is what makes me look forward to getting my Ryzen Framework laptop!
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neutech
Oh Gordon, Jensen made you so handsome that i dont think i can stare for long. .maybe some more rich eyelashes too?
Though you got to give it to auntie Lisa, she doesn't care if your that! hansome, she looks after your pocket too.(low power)
Just loving it TM
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Oh Gordon, Jensen made you so handsome that i dont think i can stare for long. .maybe some more rich eyelashes too?
Though you got to give it to auntie Lisa, she doesn't care if your that! hansome, she looks after your pocket too.(low power)
Just loving it TM
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liaminwales
I still am not a fan of the eye tracking tech, background blur is handy to get rid of distractions. For me the lowest power option wins with laptops, all the background blur options are kind of ok to get rid of distractions in the background.
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I still am not a fan of the eye tracking tech, background blur is handy to get rid of distractions. For me the lowest power option wins with laptops, all the background blur options are kind of ok to get rid of distractions in the background.
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JohnnyNismo
The Microsoft/AMD Eye Contact is so much more natural looking than Nvidia's. Their background blur sucks though, but Nvidia's did as well when they first released it. Well done AMD.
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The Microsoft/AMD Eye Contact is so much more natural looking than Nvidia's. Their background blur sucks though, but Nvidia's did as well when they first released it. Well done AMD.
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Alex
I was expecting some noise reduction audio processing as well since NVidia RTX Voice tests work with zoom as well? Does AMD have their own audio processing as well.
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I was expecting some noise reduction audio processing as well since NVidia RTX Voice tests work with zoom as well? Does AMD have their own audio processing as well.
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tester
Gordy won't be able to use them because neither of them supports AI generated hair. Actually, NV can add hairwork to their 40 series and it will definitely help.
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Gordy won't be able to use them because neither of them supports AI generated hair. Actually, NV can add hairwork to their 40 series and it will definitely help.
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rhoharane
The NVIDIA eye contact thing looks like it doesn't do so well with Asian features. Gordon is absolutely justified in his skepticism and calling it crazy eyes.
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The NVIDIA eye contact thing looks like it doesn't do so well with Asian features. Gordon is absolutely justified in his skepticism and calling it crazy eyes.
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Texas
I wonder if it is possible to specify exactly what gets blurred, so that you can use background blur when filming objects, kind of like a bokeh effect I guess?
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I wonder if it is possible to specify exactly what gets blurred, so that you can use background blur when filming objects, kind of like a bokeh effect I guess?
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Leggir
Crazy eyes for sure. I'd probably use NV broadcast and keep everything from around the screen. Tech wise, typical of most NV VS AMD for effects.
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Crazy eyes for sure. I'd probably use NV broadcast and keep everything from around the screen. Tech wise, typical of most NV VS AMD for effects.
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War
Always on eye contact reminds me of a line from the lyrics of Royal Crown Review's Friday the 13th -- And she shot me that amphetamine stare .
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Always on eye contact reminds me of a line from the lyrics of Royal Crown Review's Friday the 13th -- And she shot me that amphetamine stare .
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LB
Gordon you get cool points for the McDowells shirt straight from comming to America.
Wouldn't have guessed you've watched that movie.
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Gordon you get cool points for the McDowells shirt straight from comming to America.
Wouldn't have guessed you've watched that movie.
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Baza's
You know people are going to be staring at each other's eyes at Zoom meetings to see who's got this feature turned on as a game.
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You know people are going to be staring at each other's eyes at Zoom meetings to see who's got this feature turned on as a game.
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(tired)
Curious. I do about 1 video call a year though so not much value to me....I can see it being useful for many others though
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Curious. I do about 1 video call a year though so not much value to me....I can see it being useful for many others though
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