Steroids vs Natural: 100 Day Transformation
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Date: 2024-10-08
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derghiarrinde
Brandon was bulking too little. I don't know how many protein shakes a day he drank but it was way too little. It looks like his catabolic processes just took over and didn't allow him to grow as much as he would have if he did his diet better. For the most extreme growth, I would recommend setting an alarm clock and drink an additional protein shake every night at 2 AM. Forthermore I would incorporate high-carb, high protein drink/meal immediately after each workout, even after smaller workouts. Although I respect gains Brandon had at the end, I still think you dodn't do well in this regard, Jeremy.
Another thing you didn't do well, Jeremy, was the composition of workouts. I have not seen Brandon do any squats, pull ups or dips. Only some dead lifts. This has IMO translated into lower GH at night time and thus lower growth.
Last thing you didn't do well, Jeremy, were supplements. Creatine was a good start BUT! There are some proven supplements that naturally increase T (Biotin, etc. There are some that inhibit here iron absorption from meat resulting in lower SHBG. Whey protein for increasing MPS is a must.
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Brandon was bulking too little. I don't know how many protein shakes a day he drank but it was way too little. It looks like his catabolic processes just took over and didn't allow him to grow as much as he would have if he did his diet better. For the most extreme growth, I would recommend setting an alarm clock and drink an additional protein shake every night at 2 AM. Forthermore I would incorporate high-carb, high protein drink/meal immediately after each workout, even after smaller workouts. Although I respect gains Brandon had at the end, I still think you dodn't do well in this regard, Jeremy.
Another thing you didn't do well, Jeremy, was the composition of workouts. I have not seen Brandon do any squats, pull ups or dips. Only some dead lifts. This has IMO translated into lower GH at night time and thus lower growth.
Last thing you didn't do well, Jeremy, were supplements. Creatine was a good start BUT! There are some proven supplements that naturally increase T (Biotin, etc. There are some that inhibit here iron absorption from meat resulting in lower SHBG. Whey protein for increasing MPS is a must.
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anontar6316
It is amazing to think that people would give up literally years of life. just to look a certain way without even thinking to achive a Mr. Olympia or a Arnolds tittle: O
Natty. for a longer better life. even if I have a higher fat %. I don't care.
I lift for my bones, muscles, joints and heart. I am a bit carefull at what I eat so that I do not get a negative impact. and as long as I gain some muscle I am golden.
I think the main problem with people who do not accept where they are at, is a mental problem.
There is something stopping you at the top and not at the bicep or quads level: )
After all your body is a machine. the way you treat it, is the exact way it will look and feel.
Give it steriod and you will start to look just like you should. but then expect that with time, you will start to feel what you should: ) win some. loose some: ) time life vs looks
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It is amazing to think that people would give up literally years of life. just to look a certain way without even thinking to achive a Mr. Olympia or a Arnolds tittle: O
Natty. for a longer better life. even if I have a higher fat %. I don't care.
I lift for my bones, muscles, joints and heart. I am a bit carefull at what I eat so that I do not get a negative impact. and as long as I gain some muscle I am golden.
I think the main problem with people who do not accept where they are at, is a mental problem.
There is something stopping you at the top and not at the bicep or quads level: )
After all your body is a machine. the way you treat it, is the exact way it will look and feel.
Give it steriod and you will start to look just like you should. but then expect that with time, you will start to feel what you should: ) win some. loose some: ) time life vs looks
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JeremyEthier
Hey guys! Just wanted to remind everyone to be respectful in the comments, especially towards Todd. Todd was extremely kind to be willing to not only be part of the experiment but allowing us to share the results online. Behind the scenes he was a pleasure to work with. He's also incredibly disciplined and worked his ass off to achieve his results. Lastly, keep in mind that he was dieting for his bodybuilding show. At the time of our final measurements/results, he was just 4 weeks out from his competition. For those unfamiliar, these last few weeks are BRUTAL. It turns you into a walking zombie, regardless of if you are using gear or not. I would be acting the exact same way if I was in his shoes. So please, let's remember there's a real human being on the other end of the computer screen: ). Thanks guys! Hope you enjoyed this one.
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Hey guys! Just wanted to remind everyone to be respectful in the comments, especially towards Todd. Todd was extremely kind to be willing to not only be part of the experiment but allowing us to share the results online. Behind the scenes he was a pleasure to work with. He's also incredibly disciplined and worked his ass off to achieve his results. Lastly, keep in mind that he was dieting for his bodybuilding show. At the time of our final measurements/results, he was just 4 weeks out from his competition. For those unfamiliar, these last few weeks are BRUTAL. It turns you into a walking zombie, regardless of if you are using gear or not. I would be acting the exact same way if I was in his shoes. So please, let's remember there's a real human being on the other end of the computer screen: ). Thanks guys! Hope you enjoyed this one.
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Simple_Dave_Jr
Natty vs steroids isn't even comparable. Sure with the better workout, the natty can do great things, but even with a crappy workout, the roids will win. Every time. Now you give the roids an actual great workout routine and a healthy regiment and it's honestly crazy to watch. A decade ago I remember hitting the gym pretty hard with 5 of my friends. We all did about the same stuff give or take, but they went the roids route and I went natty bc I went into the military. I hit pretty hard, but 6 months later they were monsters and I couldnt even compare to them. Roids can wreck your body, but in no universe should someone think they don't work, or that 99% of big jacked people arent on them. AND trying to hit their level as a natty will only hurt you in the end.
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Natty vs steroids isn't even comparable. Sure with the better workout, the natty can do great things, but even with a crappy workout, the roids will win. Every time. Now you give the roids an actual great workout routine and a healthy regiment and it's honestly crazy to watch. A decade ago I remember hitting the gym pretty hard with 5 of my friends. We all did about the same stuff give or take, but they went the roids route and I went natty bc I went into the military. I hit pretty hard, but 6 months later they were monsters and I couldnt even compare to them. Roids can wreck your body, but in no universe should someone think they don't work, or that 99% of big jacked people arent on them. AND trying to hit their level as a natty will only hurt you in the end.
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deepblouxstrength
Huge props to both Todd and Brandon for their commitment and hard work. I especially appreciate Jeremy's pinned note about being respectful towards Todd. I would like to share a thought - based on Brandon's starting appearance, rate of growth, and active lifestyle, I would argue that he has some pretty top tier genetics. I'm not sure gaining 5 lbs of muscle in 100 days without gaining any body fat is realistic for the average lifter. That said, I understand that the purpose of this video is to show that with serious dedication and discipline, a natural lifter can make INCREDIBLE strides in their health and fitness. Well done to both guys!
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Huge props to both Todd and Brandon for their commitment and hard work. I especially appreciate Jeremy's pinned note about being respectful towards Todd. I would like to share a thought - based on Brandon's starting appearance, rate of growth, and active lifestyle, I would argue that he has some pretty top tier genetics. I'm not sure gaining 5 lbs of muscle in 100 days without gaining any body fat is realistic for the average lifter. That said, I understand that the purpose of this video is to show that with serious dedication and discipline, a natural lifter can make INCREDIBLE strides in their health and fitness. Well done to both guys!
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Bling92
The study would benefit from a larger sample size, as the current participant pool is too limited, and Todd was absent for much of the study. I think it would be compelling to see this research conducted with 500-1, 000 participants, though this would introduce significant ethical considerations. Additionally, there are numerous variables such as dosage, quality of substances, training regimens, diet, lifestyle factors, and stressors that make it challenging to draw definitive conclusions. This is why i think many studies on athletes are often considered insignificant or are ultimately dismissed.
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The study would benefit from a larger sample size, as the current participant pool is too limited, and Todd was absent for much of the study. I think it would be compelling to see this research conducted with 500-1, 000 participants, though this would introduce significant ethical considerations. Additionally, there are numerous variables such as dosage, quality of substances, training regimens, diet, lifestyle factors, and stressors that make it challenging to draw definitive conclusions. This is why i think many studies on athletes are often considered insignificant or are ultimately dismissed.
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swegotech8466
Both guys in your video did great! I'm 100% natural, not even taking creatine, but I go to a well known bodybuilding gym where more than 80% of the people are on gear (and compete in bodybuilding. So I can see daily that it makes a big difference, but these crazy dexa-scan numbers make me feel way better about the slower progress I have compared to these guys. I stay natural, because I like to do things the hard way and have certain goals I want my body to reach without chemical help. But I have ZERO problems with people using gear as well.
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Both guys in your video did great! I'm 100% natural, not even taking creatine, but I go to a well known bodybuilding gym where more than 80% of the people are on gear (and compete in bodybuilding. So I can see daily that it makes a big difference, but these crazy dexa-scan numbers make me feel way better about the slower progress I have compared to these guys. I stay natural, because I like to do things the hard way and have certain goals I want my body to reach without chemical help. But I have ZERO problems with people using gear as well.
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PC509
Todd had some killer gains for sure. But, I think Brandon overall was better. Not due to steroids or natural. But, more on the motivation and I did this. That's a huge driver for me. Seeing the steroids results is very tempting, but seeing what can be done with all natural and long term sustainable with no negative side effects is very encouraging and motivating! Thanks for this! I was honestly considering the juice for a bit. But, I've got all winter (200 days ish) to bust my ass and git gud!
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Todd had some killer gains for sure. But, I think Brandon overall was better. Not due to steroids or natural. But, more on the motivation and I did this. That's a huge driver for me. Seeing the steroids results is very tempting, but seeing what can be done with all natural and long term sustainable with no negative side effects is very encouraging and motivating! Thanks for this! I was honestly considering the juice for a bit. But, I've got all winter (200 days ish) to bust my ass and git gud!
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mithyto
There’s also the fact that’s not mentioned and that is that the rate of growth for natural lifters will slow down at one point in time to the point where even putting on say 1 pound of muscle could take 6 months to a year whereas juiced individuals will continue putting on pounds and pounds of muscle no matter how many years they’ve been training until they stop the cycle altogether. Some obvious examples are to look at some older Hollywood stars and wrestlers and their physiques.
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There’s also the fact that’s not mentioned and that is that the rate of growth for natural lifters will slow down at one point in time to the point where even putting on say 1 pound of muscle could take 6 months to a year whereas juiced individuals will continue putting on pounds and pounds of muscle no matter how many years they’ve been training until they stop the cycle altogether. Some obvious examples are to look at some older Hollywood stars and wrestlers and their physiques.
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iangrant3615
I just think the key takeaway is don't use steroids. They are unsafe and not legally prescribed or available supplements. Even just making and posting videos like this helps to give the impression that taking steroids is an option that Jeremy might consider (if people look at the thumbnail or video title. For me, I don't want to endorse those who use or seem to advocate steroids, as I am against them. I prefer content that doesn't cover them so prominently.
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I just think the key takeaway is don't use steroids. They are unsafe and not legally prescribed or available supplements. Even just making and posting videos like this helps to give the impression that taking steroids is an option that Jeremy might consider (if people look at the thumbnail or video title. For me, I don't want to endorse those who use or seem to advocate steroids, as I am against them. I prefer content that doesn't cover them so prominently.
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jeremy_ethier
I don't know man Tod he did all that by himself and whereas Brandon He had all the support to get the best shape in 100 days. if tod was to also get through the same procedure say the workout only with Brandon then the results could have been complete mind blowing. It still surprised me but tod did everything on his own which kinda made me upset. Well, overall the video was very informative stay HEALTHY you ALL
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I don't know man Tod he did all that by himself and whereas Brandon He had all the support to get the best shape in 100 days. if tod was to also get through the same procedure say the workout only with Brandon then the results could have been complete mind blowing. It still surprised me but tod did everything on his own which kinda made me upset. Well, overall the video was very informative stay HEALTHY you ALL
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youalreadyknow5039
Yo Jeremey, would’ve been good to see how Todd was working out in comparison to Brandon. Next time during your interview for the experiment, u should ask if they have plans on moving or going out of town. Yo, upto two hours at the gym, that’s insane. Todd was doing a lot of cardio. I would’ve thought he’s burning muscle. Maybe it’s just a myth anyway, great experiment!
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Yo Jeremey, would’ve been good to see how Todd was working out in comparison to Brandon. Next time during your interview for the experiment, u should ask if they have plans on moving or going out of town. Yo, upto two hours at the gym, that’s insane. Todd was doing a lot of cardio. I would’ve thought he’s burning muscle. Maybe it’s just a myth anyway, great experiment!
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benglasby8014
Leave Todd alone. He may just suffer body dysmorphia. We’re seeing a snippet that’s edited. All the people commenting about the negative side effects of steroids haven’t got a clue. I had no negative effects, no roid rage, no acne etc. My life improved. The advice I’d give is try and raise your test naturally first, but getting enhanced when your older will fix most problems.
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Leave Todd alone. He may just suffer body dysmorphia. We’re seeing a snippet that’s edited. All the people commenting about the negative side effects of steroids haven’t got a clue. I had no negative effects, no roid rage, no acne etc. My life improved. The advice I’d give is try and raise your test naturally first, but getting enhanced when your older will fix most problems.
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tnenyt223
Hey jeremy, the builtwithscience quiz mostly only focuses on people with fat loss in mind. There are a tonn of us lean skinny guys who also wanna build muscle. Would appreicate if you added those options too. I dont really want to get rid of fat from anywhere in my body, cuz there's barely any lol but that option of fat loss is easy for me is not there
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Hey jeremy, the builtwithscience quiz mostly only focuses on people with fat loss in mind. There are a tonn of us lean skinny guys who also wanna build muscle. Would appreicate if you added those options too. I dont really want to get rid of fat from anywhere in my body, cuz there's barely any lol but that option of fat loss is easy for me is not there
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getrelaxed3848
If this proves anything, it proves that steroids do help a lot and that's the EXACT reason those who use PED's always claim this famous sentence hard work pays off, steroids without hard work is nothing. Bruh many studies showed that steroids work with minimum effort, that shit is like a high Watts super charger compared to a regular phone charger
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If this proves anything, it proves that steroids do help a lot and that's the EXACT reason those who use PED's always claim this famous sentence hard work pays off, steroids without hard work is nothing. Bruh many studies showed that steroids work with minimum effort, that shit is like a high Watts super charger compared to a regular phone charger
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sniperlif3
If Todd didn't have the show, his gains would have been more for muscle. Those gains are massive as is, loss of fat and a huge muscle gain. Can't beat the roids. Gotta have love for Todd that he put his gains out there.
The natty side was massive as well! Great coaching and great commitment! Gaining muscle without gaining fat is not an easy feat.
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If Todd didn't have the show, his gains would have been more for muscle. Those gains are massive as is, loss of fat and a huge muscle gain. Can't beat the roids. Gotta have love for Todd that he put his gains out there.
The natty side was massive as well! Great coaching and great commitment! Gaining muscle without gaining fat is not an easy feat.
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blackgoatmetal
Wow, great case and experiment!
If you'd do such experiments in the future, I would ask to switch to machines instead of dumbells and cables for natty lifter.
Because machines might be better in stimulating target muscle, rather that dumbells, - they need too much neuro adaptation to occur before any benefit for novices.
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Wow, great case and experiment!
If you'd do such experiments in the future, I would ask to switch to machines instead of dumbells and cables for natty lifter.
Because machines might be better in stimulating target muscle, rather that dumbells, - they need too much neuro adaptation to occur before any benefit for novices.
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jeremy_ethier
Interesting to see the gap in the final results. It seems like there has to be more thought given to recovery strategies so that the natty person can exercise with more intensity and for longer durations if desired. Tools like sleep hygiene, hydration levels, cold exposure between sets/heat exposure after exercising, pemf, HBOT
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Interesting to see the gap in the final results. It seems like there has to be more thought given to recovery strategies so that the natty person can exercise with more intensity and for longer durations if desired. Tools like sleep hygiene, hydration levels, cold exposure between sets/heat exposure after exercising, pemf, HBOT
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ve17929
Hey jaremy I'm 15 and I've been going to the gym for 3amd a half months now and i
Don't see change on my pecs, i did flat dumbell press and chest flyes and pec deck flys i don't see much results even tho i gaind 2 inches on my arms and i got a bit wider shoulders and some muscles on the back, so what can i do to grow my pecs
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Hey jaremy I'm 15 and I've been going to the gym for 3amd a half months now and i
Don't see change on my pecs, i did flat dumbell press and chest flyes and pec deck flys i don't see much results even tho i gaind 2 inches on my arms and i got a bit wider shoulders and some muscles on the back, so what can i do to grow my pecs
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kwk9415
wow the honesty nowadays!
For me its just crazy that i can still hit the gym as hard as i can for 2h 2 times a week(Family and Stuff) and still see at least a little bit of growth every now and then, but of course one maybe 2 simple roid cicle and he could easyli catch up to me and then beat me after the third.
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wow the honesty nowadays!
For me its just crazy that i can still hit the gym as hard as i can for 2h 2 times a week(Family and Stuff) and still see at least a little bit of growth every now and then, but of course one maybe 2 simple roid cicle and he could easyli catch up to me and then beat me after the third.
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