Battle Of The Crossover Kings Toyota RAV4 vs Honda CR-V
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Date: 2020-02-06
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Stephen
Fortunately, I'm not shopping in this category. It would be VERY challenging. On one hand if I'm going to put up with the overall looks of any crossover I want maximum utility. That's what the U in CUV stands for. And the combination of compact exterior size and more efficient allocation of space makes the CR-V the winner. On the other hand, the RAV4 hybrid not only makes it the only version of the Toyota I'd even consider, it makes it a significantly better choice from my perspective than the non-hybrid CR-V. I'm not a fan of CVT's but they're not all created equal and the Honda's seems to be relatively inoffensive. Still, I have to admit that even the best CVT doesn't match a traditional stepped transmission from my perspective. So the combo of a NA engine and a hybrid system (even the rather odd version in the RAV4) that delivers equal or better power and a huge advantage in terms of fuel economy gives the Toyota a significant edge. That's a big plus for the RAV4 today. All this means that if I were shopping I'd be strongly tempted to wait and see what the hybrid CR-V offers before making a choice. If it meets or beats the RAV4 in terms of fuel efficiency along with its greater passenger room and load capacity, that might well tip the balance toward the Honda. But once we reach that point, Alex' reference to a RAV4 plug-in hybrid with MUCH more power than the current hybrid version means I might wait to see what that version of the Toyota has to offer before making a decision. Finally, given my great experience with two KIA Sorentos over the last decade, I'd be interested to see what Hyundai and KIA have to offer once the RAV4 plug-in hybrid is released and by then, Honda may well have a 2021 CR-V that updates some of its current weaknesses. It's a never ending cycle and I'm happy not to be needing to make a choice anytime soon.
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Fortunately, I'm not shopping in this category. It would be VERY challenging. On one hand if I'm going to put up with the overall looks of any crossover I want maximum utility. That's what the U in CUV stands for. And the combination of compact exterior size and more efficient allocation of space makes the CR-V the winner. On the other hand, the RAV4 hybrid not only makes it the only version of the Toyota I'd even consider, it makes it a significantly better choice from my perspective than the non-hybrid CR-V. I'm not a fan of CVT's but they're not all created equal and the Honda's seems to be relatively inoffensive. Still, I have to admit that even the best CVT doesn't match a traditional stepped transmission from my perspective. So the combo of a NA engine and a hybrid system (even the rather odd version in the RAV4) that delivers equal or better power and a huge advantage in terms of fuel economy gives the Toyota a significant edge. That's a big plus for the RAV4 today. All this means that if I were shopping I'd be strongly tempted to wait and see what the hybrid CR-V offers before making a choice. If it meets or beats the RAV4 in terms of fuel efficiency along with its greater passenger room and load capacity, that might well tip the balance toward the Honda. But once we reach that point, Alex' reference to a RAV4 plug-in hybrid with MUCH more power than the current hybrid version means I might wait to see what that version of the Toyota has to offer before making a decision. Finally, given my great experience with two KIA Sorentos over the last decade, I'd be interested to see what Hyundai and KIA have to offer once the RAV4 plug-in hybrid is released and by then, Honda may well have a 2021 CR-V that updates some of its current weaknesses. It's a never ending cycle and I'm happy not to be needing to make a choice anytime soon.
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Dreamy
15: 31 I agree with your assessment Alex. My best friend currently has both the 2018 Toyota RAV4 and 2019 Honda CR-V in his garage currently. One of the big deciding factors of having both right now for him and his family was that the Toyota RAV4 just couldnt hold cargo nor seat passengers as comfortably as the new Honda CR-V. Little things such as fitting in the stroller and car seats for the kid were just easier with the bigger cargo volume. One last big factor was engine noise and refinement, because the Toyota was just a rougher ride for the kids with much louder engine sounds on the highway. The Toyota is on a lease that he doesnt plan on buying when its up because his family fell in love with the Honda CR-V and bought it straight from the dealership.
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15: 31 I agree with your assessment Alex. My best friend currently has both the 2018 Toyota RAV4 and 2019 Honda CR-V in his garage currently. One of the big deciding factors of having both right now for him and his family was that the Toyota RAV4 just couldnt hold cargo nor seat passengers as comfortably as the new Honda CR-V. Little things such as fitting in the stroller and car seats for the kid were just easier with the bigger cargo volume. One last big factor was engine noise and refinement, because the Toyota was just a rougher ride for the kids with much louder engine sounds on the highway. The Toyota is on a lease that he doesnt plan on buying when its up because his family fell in love with the Honda CR-V and bought it straight from the dealership.
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Zixu
Thank you for the videoA question regarding CR-Vs drivetrain: will the 1. 5T+CVT less reliable than Toyotas 2. 5NA + 8AT combination in terms of 10-year or even longer ownership? After all, this 1. 5T once suffered from oil dilution issue while traditional ATs are theoretically more robust than CVTs. This concern did steer me towards RAV4 when I was cross shopping for an elder who wants to keep the vehicle for 10+ years. Though we finally took RAV4 hybrid since its even a better deal.
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Thank you for the videoA question regarding CR-Vs drivetrain: will the 1. 5T+CVT less reliable than Toyotas 2. 5NA + 8AT combination in terms of 10-year or even longer ownership? After all, this 1. 5T once suffered from oil dilution issue while traditional ATs are theoretically more robust than CVTs. This concern did steer me towards RAV4 when I was cross shopping for an elder who wants to keep the vehicle for 10+ years. Though we finally took RAV4 hybrid since its even a better deal.
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David
I was about to buy the Rav4 Hybrid but now find myself waiting for the Rav4 prime One factor missing from all reviews is mechanical reliability and maintenance cost. I know this is hearsay but my overall experience is that Toyota tends to be cheaper to repair than Honda (and much cheaper than BMW. Factors such as reliability and repair cost became a big issue if you intend to keep the vehicle for a long time (I'm planning for at least 15 years.
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I was about to buy the Rav4 Hybrid but now find myself waiting for the Rav4 prime One factor missing from all reviews is mechanical reliability and maintenance cost. I know this is hearsay but my overall experience is that Toyota tends to be cheaper to repair than Honda (and much cheaper than BMW. Factors such as reliability and repair cost became a big issue if you intend to keep the vehicle for a long time (I'm planning for at least 15 years.
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Mobile
Do the CRV require the new oil? GF-6 is the newest ILSAC engine oil performance standard aimed at improving fuel economy and enhancing engine capabilities for passenger cars. This new standard, effective May 1, 2020, will replace the current ILSAC GF-5 standard. Every new level of standard is backward compatible with the previous generation.
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Do the CRV require the new oil? GF-6 is the newest ILSAC engine oil performance standard aimed at improving fuel economy and enhancing engine capabilities for passenger cars. This new standard, effective May 1, 2020, will replace the current ILSAC GF-5 standard. Every new level of standard is backward compatible with the previous generation.
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Justin
There are two things I don't like about my 2020 CRV so far: one is the engine noise you mentioned that I thought I would get used to but can't, the other is the small gas tank. It only has about 10. 5 gallons between full and the fuel light coming on at 30 miles of range. That gives us about 320 miles, 80 miles less than my 2014 CRV.
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There are two things I don't like about my 2020 CRV so far: one is the engine noise you mentioned that I thought I would get used to but can't, the other is the small gas tank. It only has about 10. 5 gallons between full and the fuel light coming on at 30 miles of range. That gives us about 320 miles, 80 miles less than my 2014 CRV.
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rod
Between the two, I would pick the CR-V. I don't like the current RAV4's truck like design and styling. As it is I'm very happy I bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5 Signature. It's been great for 16, 000 miles and competes with near luxury and luxury SUV's costing 10, 000-15, 000 more and more reliable.
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Between the two, I would pick the CR-V. I don't like the current RAV4's truck like design and styling. As it is I'm very happy I bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5 Signature. It's been great for 16, 000 miles and competes with near luxury and luxury SUV's costing 10, 000-15, 000 more and more reliable.
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Isac
RAV4 4x4 hybrid the better optionoverall best in segmentIts better fuel efficient then the 2x4 and a bit more faster in the acceleration department. Also the planetary (Called E-CVT which should not confused with CVT) is a joy to every day use. until CRV hybrid rise its not a fair match
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RAV4 4x4 hybrid the better optionoverall best in segmentIts better fuel efficient then the 2x4 and a bit more faster in the acceleration department. Also the planetary (Called E-CVT which should not confused with CVT) is a joy to every day use. until CRV hybrid rise its not a fair match
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bird718
if i was shopping in this segment and i was back in September i ended up picking the BMW x3. the rav4 smelled of oil, creeked, engine noise was way to loud etc. the Hyundai i checked out were better overall then the toyota. the sales guys at toyota kept pushing me to the 4runner.
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if i was shopping in this segment and i was back in September i ended up picking the BMW x3. the rav4 smelled of oil, creeked, engine noise was way to loud etc. the Hyundai i checked out were better overall then the toyota. the sales guys at toyota kept pushing me to the 4runner.
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