2019 Ford Ranger Baby F 150? Does It Matter?
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Comments and reviews: 10
J. D. Parker
The best comparison I have seen = well done indeed. I started looking at Rangers before they were out - back in early November. I drove one in a pre-release test in North Houston, and liked it. When I first went to the dealership, I drove a full sized F150, which was set up for towing - and all I tow is a lightweight trailer with a motorcycle - and that is rare. I continued looking, and comparing Rangers, F150s, Rams, etc until finally deciding on a F150. I am a bit over 62, and found that the F150 was much more comfortable. They both drove OK - but the milage difference is neglible and the comfort much greater for me in the F150. If your 6 the rear seat is not usable - and truly I dont think it will be for anything other than a very short trip. Drive different trucks and make your own decision. (This truck replaced a Toyota Tundra. I liked it quite a bit when I bought it, but the local Toyota dealership was charing 400 more for Nitrogen Filled Tires, which is a scam to make the dealer more money. But Ill let someone else pay that. Besides, i think the F150 is a better vehicle, anyway.
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The best comparison I have seen = well done indeed. I started looking at Rangers before they were out - back in early November. I drove one in a pre-release test in North Houston, and liked it. When I first went to the dealership, I drove a full sized F150, which was set up for towing - and all I tow is a lightweight trailer with a motorcycle - and that is rare. I continued looking, and comparing Rangers, F150s, Rams, etc until finally deciding on a F150. I am a bit over 62, and found that the F150 was much more comfortable. They both drove OK - but the milage difference is neglible and the comfort much greater for me in the F150. If your 6 the rear seat is not usable - and truly I dont think it will be for anything other than a very short trip. Drive different trucks and make your own decision. (This truck replaced a Toyota Tundra. I liked it quite a bit when I bought it, but the local Toyota dealership was charing 400 more for Nitrogen Filled Tires, which is a scam to make the dealer more money. But Ill let someone else pay that. Besides, i think the F150 is a better vehicle, anyway.
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MrDashpilot
Wait stop the press I just watched your review of the Colorado ( I was hoping I could get your insight into how the ride on the ZR2 was in comparison to the Ranger ) and in that you said that you had tested a Colorado with the V6 and it got a 0-60 in 6 sec flat beating the Honda Ridgeline. SO which is it is the Colorado faster or the Ranger. I would guess the Ranger but. And I just moved to the burbs ( unfortunately) and I would love a full size truck but they dont fit in the little garage I got stuck with. Plus these little trucks are a lot better for getting around in the city. I dont want the fake Ridgeline as I still go out to my parents farm and need something that can still haul and tow stuff. I love all the new tech on the Ranger but with the DSSV shocks that the Colorado ZR 2 has I would think it would give a better ride than the Ranger over more different types of terrain. I Dont suppose you could go drive the ZR 2 V6 and remind yourself of that vehicle because it seems like youve forgotten how much you liked it.
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Wait stop the press I just watched your review of the Colorado ( I was hoping I could get your insight into how the ride on the ZR2 was in comparison to the Ranger ) and in that you said that you had tested a Colorado with the V6 and it got a 0-60 in 6 sec flat beating the Honda Ridgeline. SO which is it is the Colorado faster or the Ranger. I would guess the Ranger but. And I just moved to the burbs ( unfortunately) and I would love a full size truck but they dont fit in the little garage I got stuck with. Plus these little trucks are a lot better for getting around in the city. I dont want the fake Ridgeline as I still go out to my parents farm and need something that can still haul and tow stuff. I love all the new tech on the Ranger but with the DSSV shocks that the Colorado ZR 2 has I would think it would give a better ride than the Ranger over more different types of terrain. I Dont suppose you could go drive the ZR 2 V6 and remind yourself of that vehicle because it seems like youve forgotten how much you liked it.
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Mudit Badlani
To everyone talking about reliability etc: We get this (and a SUV body style) in Asia (and SA) with a BRILLIANT I5 diesel. Wont get into the EcoBoost debate, but Rangers and Everests (the upcoming Bronco for you Yanks) here have proven to be just as reliable and more niggle-free than Toyotas popular (and hugely overpriced in some markets) versions of the Tacoma and 4Runner. And the running conditions here in some areas are really bad. Ford Australia did a great job engineering this for high temperatures and rough roads. The ride quality on the SUV body style (no leaf springs at the rear) on broken roads has to be experienced to be believed. In terms of dynamics and refinement, this is on a different level from Toyota. That said, the Isuzu version of the GM Colorado over here, though woefully underpowered, is as reliable as anything else.
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To everyone talking about reliability etc: We get this (and a SUV body style) in Asia (and SA) with a BRILLIANT I5 diesel. Wont get into the EcoBoost debate, but Rangers and Everests (the upcoming Bronco for you Yanks) here have proven to be just as reliable and more niggle-free than Toyotas popular (and hugely overpriced in some markets) versions of the Tacoma and 4Runner. And the running conditions here in some areas are really bad. Ford Australia did a great job engineering this for high temperatures and rough roads. The ride quality on the SUV body style (no leaf springs at the rear) on broken roads has to be experienced to be believed. In terms of dynamics and refinement, this is on a different level from Toyota. That said, the Isuzu version of the GM Colorado over here, though woefully underpowered, is as reliable as anything else.
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Curtis Bull
Good video I always enjoy your detailed reviews. As far as Im concerned this Ford Ranger sucks. Its too close to the same as the F-150 and it has too small of a bed to be much more usable then hauling a dog or two. I dont quite understand these automakers, it seems like if youre going to make a small pickup, make a small pickup. The older Ford Ranger was perfect for a lot of people. If that size came out again with a little more horsepower and torque and little more capability Id be all over one. I find this pick up to pretty much be worthless as the bed is just too small for a lot of things, its nice that new ranger has a 4-door option, I wish my old 97 Ranger had the four door at times but the small bed is pointless in my eyes. And really, no integrated trailer brakes? Totally a brain-dead move there.
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Good video I always enjoy your detailed reviews. As far as Im concerned this Ford Ranger sucks. Its too close to the same as the F-150 and it has too small of a bed to be much more usable then hauling a dog or two. I dont quite understand these automakers, it seems like if youre going to make a small pickup, make a small pickup. The older Ford Ranger was perfect for a lot of people. If that size came out again with a little more horsepower and torque and little more capability Id be all over one. I find this pick up to pretty much be worthless as the bed is just too small for a lot of things, its nice that new ranger has a 4-door option, I wish my old 97 Ranger had the four door at times but the small bed is pointless in my eyes. And really, no integrated trailer brakes? Totally a brain-dead move there.
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PaoloFrancesco99
Alex is the most thorough and efficient reviewer around. I have a different perspective on his comments about leasing around 20: 20, as he stated that resale value is not related to lease price. In fact, lease pricing is based on the resale value (aka residual value) at the end of the lease, typically 3 years in duration. So for two vehicles with the same initial price, the one with better resale value will have a lower monthly lease cost. Similarly, one can lease a more expensive car with great resale value for the same amount or less than a vehicle with lower price but lower resale value. This later example was real for me when I was comparing Acura TSX vs. Mazda 6 back in 2009. I agree with Alex that if you keep a car for 10 years, then just get what you like best.
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Alex is the most thorough and efficient reviewer around. I have a different perspective on his comments about leasing around 20: 20, as he stated that resale value is not related to lease price. In fact, lease pricing is based on the resale value (aka residual value) at the end of the lease, typically 3 years in duration. So for two vehicles with the same initial price, the one with better resale value will have a lower monthly lease cost. Similarly, one can lease a more expensive car with great resale value for the same amount or less than a vehicle with lower price but lower resale value. This later example was real for me when I was comparing Acura TSX vs. Mazda 6 back in 2009. I agree with Alex that if you keep a car for 10 years, then just get what you like best.
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Hogh308
Anecdotally, I have read hundreds, if not thousands, of comments about problems with ecoboost engines. Ive been fortunate enough to only break down in one vehicle in my life, which was a Saturn SL1 at 90k miles. Ive driven my Hondas and Toyotas up to 200k miles without issue. I want to make the jump, but I dont want to be either: broken down, or staring at a costly engine rebuild bill 90k into the life of the truck. This is why I dont see lower torque or fuel economy as a disadvantage. If I have to spend 5k to fix an engine at 90k miles, theres the extra fuel cost, and if I choose the newer tech, it comes with the experience of being broken down on the side of the road.
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Anecdotally, I have read hundreds, if not thousands, of comments about problems with ecoboost engines. Ive been fortunate enough to only break down in one vehicle in my life, which was a Saturn SL1 at 90k miles. Ive driven my Hondas and Toyotas up to 200k miles without issue. I want to make the jump, but I dont want to be either: broken down, or staring at a costly engine rebuild bill 90k into the life of the truck. This is why I dont see lower torque or fuel economy as a disadvantage. If I have to spend 5k to fix an engine at 90k miles, theres the extra fuel cost, and if I choose the newer tech, it comes with the experience of being broken down on the side of the road.
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Huw Williams
The main difference for America seems to be the gas engine. Most sales worldwide are of diesel versions. There is soon to be the new option of the EcoBlue diesel 2. 0 engines with the ten speed transmission elsewhere, but otherwise not much change apart from the option of a coil sprung rear axle for more performance/lifestyle versions. All versions sold in the UK have a 2300lb payload. There is a special order economy rear axle that is higher geared and which limits the towing capacity to around 6000lbs, down from the standard 7700lbs. In less than two years time, VW will end the current Amorak production and market a badge engineered Ranger instead.
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The main difference for America seems to be the gas engine. Most sales worldwide are of diesel versions. There is soon to be the new option of the EcoBlue diesel 2. 0 engines with the ten speed transmission elsewhere, but otherwise not much change apart from the option of a coil sprung rear axle for more performance/lifestyle versions. All versions sold in the UK have a 2300lb payload. There is a special order economy rear axle that is higher geared and which limits the towing capacity to around 6000lbs, down from the standard 7700lbs. In less than two years time, VW will end the current Amorak production and market a badge engineered Ranger instead.
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JshrBs01
I like it. I really do like it but I have to say I dont like that an EcoBoost engine is the only engine choice. Im still a little skeptical with turbo engines even though Ford has probably proven themselves with them. I mean, they put it in their best seller when people were questioning what they were doing. I wish the Ranger had like an NA 3. 3L V6 as an option. I dont like how buzzy 4 cylinders can be. I have to say that I prefer to have a full-size F-150 SuperCrew with the 5. 0L V8. Its always been a dream truck of mine especially since they have the 5. 0 as an engine choice.
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I like it. I really do like it but I have to say I dont like that an EcoBoost engine is the only engine choice. Im still a little skeptical with turbo engines even though Ford has probably proven themselves with them. I mean, they put it in their best seller when people were questioning what they were doing. I wish the Ranger had like an NA 3. 3L V6 as an option. I dont like how buzzy 4 cylinders can be. I have to say that I prefer to have a full-size F-150 SuperCrew with the 5. 0L V8. Its always been a dream truck of mine especially since they have the 5. 0 as an engine choice.
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retoldpro71 Lawrence
About the 10-speed transmission, yes its the new transmission developed jointly between GM and Ford. And GM has already planned to make it available mid-19 in Canyon/Colorado V6 models. But its not without problems, as shown in the F-150 usage and even in very early failures in the Ranger. Probably because they dont want sales of the Ranger to plummet further, Ford has yet to issue recalls for the known problems with the unit, but technical repair/replacement guidance has been provided to dealerships. Just another major problem when you buy a Ranger?
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About the 10-speed transmission, yes its the new transmission developed jointly between GM and Ford. And GM has already planned to make it available mid-19 in Canyon/Colorado V6 models. But its not without problems, as shown in the F-150 usage and even in very early failures in the Ranger. Probably because they dont want sales of the Ranger to plummet further, Ford has yet to issue recalls for the known problems with the unit, but technical repair/replacement guidance has been provided to dealerships. Just another major problem when you buy a Ranger?
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TK42DAN
Once again, as usual, which truck you go with will depend largely on your needs. And as much as I wish Toyota would change a few more things, in the end its still the most durable, reliable midsize truck on the market. Fortunately, the new Taco seat adjustments and CarPlay are enough to keep me excited because what I really want is reliability and thats that the Tacoma will continue to bring. Also, have you seen someone try to fold down the rear seat of the Ford? 9: 00 RIP Dog bed and decent storage LOL
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Once again, as usual, which truck you go with will depend largely on your needs. And as much as I wish Toyota would change a few more things, in the end its still the most durable, reliable midsize truck on the market. Fortunately, the new Taco seat adjustments and CarPlay are enough to keep me excited because what I really want is reliability and thats that the Tacoma will continue to bring. Also, have you seen someone try to fold down the rear seat of the Ford? 9: 00 RIP Dog bed and decent storage LOL
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