2019 Honda Pilot - 8 Passenger Champion?
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Mark Kochenderfer
I have a 2017 Honda Pilot Elite which replaced a 2007 Honda Pilot. I have 15, 000 miles on it so now can give a long term review. Would I buy it again? No. Cons1. 9 speed transmission is just awful for driving around in suburbia. The shifts are very intrusive and frequent. You notice it less on the open road but still is not smooth. 2. Electronics sort of work. The Elite is loaded but stuff doesnt function right all the time. automatic wipers dont work well. Carplay freezes at times. Auto high beams are too slow to shift to low beam etc. If you are paying for all of this you expect it to work well. it feels like thye didnt have it all worked out yet. 3. Not as big inside as it appears. if you are serious about hauling kids around and their stuff think about something with more room inside. Not being able to get to back row with carseat in place bummer too at times. 4. My 2007 handled better than this thing. I think alot of this is due to the crappy transmission but I find it easier to park our yukon xl denali than this thing despite it being larger. Very numb steering. Pros1. It has been reliable (as was my 07 Pilot. 2. Interior well thought out and comfortable but not as roomy as it may appear at the dealership. Or maybe my kids just got bigger in the last year. Either way look closely and consider the roomier options3. Safety features seem to work well although my wife hates the very active lane keep assist4. It drives well in snow. Overall I would call the pilot average in the midsize cuv market. It is not particualy better than many other or much worse. Buying the EXL would be my rec if you want a Pilot. skip the touring and Elite trims with the flawed 9 speed.
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I have a 2017 Honda Pilot Elite which replaced a 2007 Honda Pilot. I have 15, 000 miles on it so now can give a long term review. Would I buy it again? No. Cons1. 9 speed transmission is just awful for driving around in suburbia. The shifts are very intrusive and frequent. You notice it less on the open road but still is not smooth. 2. Electronics sort of work. The Elite is loaded but stuff doesnt function right all the time. automatic wipers dont work well. Carplay freezes at times. Auto high beams are too slow to shift to low beam etc. If you are paying for all of this you expect it to work well. it feels like thye didnt have it all worked out yet. 3. Not as big inside as it appears. if you are serious about hauling kids around and their stuff think about something with more room inside. Not being able to get to back row with carseat in place bummer too at times. 4. My 2007 handled better than this thing. I think alot of this is due to the crappy transmission but I find it easier to park our yukon xl denali than this thing despite it being larger. Very numb steering. Pros1. It has been reliable (as was my 07 Pilot. 2. Interior well thought out and comfortable but not as roomy as it may appear at the dealership. Or maybe my kids just got bigger in the last year. Either way look closely and consider the roomier options3. Safety features seem to work well although my wife hates the very active lane keep assist4. It drives well in snow. Overall I would call the pilot average in the midsize cuv market. It is not particualy better than many other or much worse. Buying the EXL would be my rec if you want a Pilot. skip the touring and Elite trims with the flawed 9 speed.
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Douglas Adams
Lets start with whats important. The sorrento and Highlander are undersized if you ever plan on using the 3rd row. The explorer and Durango get horrible iihs scores. The atlas looks nice and actually drives well for its size. Between the weak engine thats overworked and get meh fuel economy plus 7+ recalls it isnt a factor for me. The pathfinder is so vanilla with its cvt and outdated design plus questionable resale. The gm twins arent anymore. Acadia got too small and the traverse is still cheap inside and tanks on resale. The cx9 is gorgeous nd drives well but for how big it is the 3rd row is tiny its bad packaging plus the infotainment is still Mazdas clunky knob style. The pilot is the only answer for me. Its middle sized. The 3rd row has easy access and can hold actual adults. Honda sensing standard and it has amazing visibility. Blind spot standard on ex and above. It does drive big but handles decently well and with the 6 speed its very smooth. The interior is comfy the ride is smooth and it all just works. The mushy brake pedal is my main complaint but Id def buy it again
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Lets start with whats important. The sorrento and Highlander are undersized if you ever plan on using the 3rd row. The explorer and Durango get horrible iihs scores. The atlas looks nice and actually drives well for its size. Between the weak engine thats overworked and get meh fuel economy plus 7+ recalls it isnt a factor for me. The pathfinder is so vanilla with its cvt and outdated design plus questionable resale. The gm twins arent anymore. Acadia got too small and the traverse is still cheap inside and tanks on resale. The cx9 is gorgeous nd drives well but for how big it is the 3rd row is tiny its bad packaging plus the infotainment is still Mazdas clunky knob style. The pilot is the only answer for me. Its middle sized. The 3rd row has easy access and can hold actual adults. Honda sensing standard and it has amazing visibility. Blind spot standard on ex and above. It does drive big but handles decently well and with the 6 speed its very smooth. The interior is comfy the ride is smooth and it all just works. The mushy brake pedal is my main complaint but Id def buy it again
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Steven Chhan
According to Motor Trend, there are hardware changes for the ZF. For 2019, the Pilots nine-speed gearbox got hardware and software changes that address these issues. Honda replaced the clutch and hydraulics to help shift speed and consistency, and modified the valve structure to improve persistent shifts. Honda claims the response from the paddle shifters is faster, and that its updated the shift selection strategy to maintain performance and combat shift frequency. Honda made other revisions to the start-stop system, which now starts the engine a little more swiftly. In normal driving conditions, the transmission will start in second gear for a smoother launch, but that changes when driving is more aggressive or when the Pilot is in Sport mode.
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According to Motor Trend, there are hardware changes for the ZF. For 2019, the Pilots nine-speed gearbox got hardware and software changes that address these issues. Honda replaced the clutch and hydraulics to help shift speed and consistency, and modified the valve structure to improve persistent shifts. Honda claims the response from the paddle shifters is faster, and that its updated the shift selection strategy to maintain performance and combat shift frequency. Honda made other revisions to the start-stop system, which now starts the engine a little more swiftly. In normal driving conditions, the transmission will start in second gear for a smoother launch, but that changes when driving is more aggressive or when the Pilot is in Sport mode.
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coffeeinthemorning
Always found the pilot overrated. The 3rd generation looks like a minivan. A friend of mine has the second generation, after Honda cleaned up the front grill. I like the look on the outside and the cargo room inside of the 2nd gen. The interior of the second generation was terrible, filled with hard plastics. It also DID NOT hold up. The leather wore poorly and the thinly padded elbow rests all tore. Honda sometimes gets by on reputation.
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Always found the pilot overrated. The 3rd generation looks like a minivan. A friend of mine has the second generation, after Honda cleaned up the front grill. I like the look on the outside and the cargo room inside of the 2nd gen. The interior of the second generation was terrible, filled with hard plastics. It also DID NOT hold up. The leather wore poorly and the thinly padded elbow rests all tore. Honda sometimes gets by on reputation.
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Frank HunInvader
I watched this, although I have no desire to buy an SUV. Just kinda educational thing, imagining myself having and drive it every day to work. . 20mpg is downright scary for those who drive fuel eco oriented cars and hitting nearly 40mpg. I also dont do off roading and dont have a large family. Although neither of those people who I see driving these kind of cars every day.
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I watched this, although I have no desire to buy an SUV. Just kinda educational thing, imagining myself having and drive it every day to work. . 20mpg is downright scary for those who drive fuel eco oriented cars and hitting nearly 40mpg. I also dont do off roading and dont have a large family. Although neither of those people who I see driving these kind of cars every day.
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Darren
Start-Stop is just there to get manufacturers 1/10 better MPG. I think its dangerous when pulling out in traffic as delay getting car going. You can turn it off permanently with advanced OBD2 diagnostic computer. Ill never buy another vehicle with it again unless dealer turns it off permanently. 48k Honda Pilot? Pony up extra and get Acura MDX start just over 48k
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Start-Stop is just there to get manufacturers 1/10 better MPG. I think its dangerous when pulling out in traffic as delay getting car going. You can turn it off permanently with advanced OBD2 diagnostic computer. Ill never buy another vehicle with it again unless dealer turns it off permanently. 48k Honda Pilot? Pony up extra and get Acura MDX start just over 48k
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David Buehner
Ive own a 2013, 2018 and now a 2019 One item I wish they would put back on the 2018 & 2019 is the clothing hooks behind the second row seat, so If youre traveling with 4 people there still room for a clothes rod, otherwise I love the Pilots. I was under the impression that only the Elite has the blind spot indicator on both side. Great car.
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Ive own a 2013, 2018 and now a 2019 One item I wish they would put back on the 2018 & 2019 is the clothing hooks behind the second row seat, so If youre traveling with 4 people there still room for a clothes rod, otherwise I love the Pilots. I was under the impression that only the Elite has the blind spot indicator on both side. Great car.
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Edysin Simon
Well. At least Honda did address some of that frumpy front nose somewhat anyway. Still needs some additional addressing and along the body lines and may as well address that butt as well, so. A refresh right? The lower black plastic cladding is still there so its a refresh until Honda eliminates that dreadful black plastic cladding
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Well. At least Honda did address some of that frumpy front nose somewhat anyway. Still needs some additional addressing and along the body lines and may as well address that butt as well, so. A refresh right? The lower black plastic cladding is still there so its a refresh until Honda eliminates that dreadful black plastic cladding
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dcpc08161992
Love your review. I always watch your review every time you posted one. Would it be too hard to add a decibel meter to your review to measure the noise, let say, at 60mph? That way, instead of giving it an A, you would say something like at 60mph, it is xx decibel for the Pilot or at 60mph, it is xx decibel for the Highlander.
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Love your review. I always watch your review every time you posted one. Would it be too hard to add a decibel meter to your review to measure the noise, let say, at 60mph? That way, instead of giving it an A, you would say something like at 60mph, it is xx decibel for the Pilot or at 60mph, it is xx decibel for the Highlander.
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Joseph G
Im very pleased that Honda is going to let us black out the horrible chrome. I loath these large SUVs and this one is no different, but at least the 3rd row is usable (still terrible since the seats are too low, but usable. I think once Honda brings out the PHEV this will be a big winner in the segment.
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Im very pleased that Honda is going to let us black out the horrible chrome. I loath these large SUVs and this one is no different, but at least the 3rd row is usable (still terrible since the seats are too low, but usable. I think once Honda brings out the PHEV this will be a big winner in the segment.
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