IC 2000: Swiss AWESOME double decker coaches
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Date: 2024-01-09
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Comments and reviews: 35
-Felyxorez
I think one of the most funny and strange feature of swiss train are, that sometimes they add so called modules to the very long base configuration for extended capacity on some routes or times as you can see in 7: 11. A module consists of another set of 3 or 4 single deck wagons with a driving cab - and as the train gets too heavy for some planned accelerations or steep climbs, they even add another loco. And the reviewed train is a double traction with one loco at each end of the train. I think the weirdest configuration I saw was a normal set of IC2000, an additional loco in the middle, a module and another loco at the end.
A triple traction in passenger traffic!
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I think one of the most funny and strange feature of swiss train are, that sometimes they add so called modules to the very long base configuration for extended capacity on some routes or times as you can see in 7: 11. A module consists of another set of 3 or 4 single deck wagons with a driving cab - and as the train gets too heavy for some planned accelerations or steep climbs, they even add another loco. And the reviewed train is a double traction with one loco at each end of the train. I think the weirdest configuration I saw was a normal set of IC2000, an additional loco in the middle, a module and another loco at the end.
A triple traction in passenger traffic!
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some of your comments are really crazy: ) -how do people work in 1st class? - well, it's a commuter train (I guess) so - if you commute to your workplace, you work there - simply: because you get paid for the time spent at work! how about chilling out? getting some rest? read a book? do whatever? :D another thing - space issue. people designed and developed double decker trains for their CAPACITY! :D
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some of your comments are really crazy: ) -how do people work in 1st class? - well, it's a commuter train (I guess) so - if you commute to your workplace, you work there - simply: because you get paid for the time spent at work! how about chilling out? getting some rest? read a book? do whatever? :D another thing - space issue. people designed and developed double decker trains for their CAPACITY! :D
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-kaimuller7819
I live in Switzerland. And i personally really don-t like those trains. Just because there are even better, cleaner and newer ones. Were so used to great train network and never recognize it! This video did made me realize how lucky we are to have this great train system!
PS: those trains are being replaced at the moment because there getting old(for swiss standards)
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I live in Switzerland. And i personally really don-t like those trains. Just because there are even better, cleaner and newer ones. Were so used to great train network and never recognize it! This video did made me realize how lucky we are to have this great train system!
PS: those trains are being replaced at the moment because there getting old(for swiss standards)
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-russellgxy2905
These passenger cars almost seem like a European version of a Superliner. In which you enter on one level, with another right above you. I'm more used to European bilevels having the -Multilevel- outline where there's a -Midlevel- for boarding and steps to access the upper and lower levels in the middle of the car
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These passenger cars almost seem like a European version of a Superliner. In which you enter on one level, with another right above you. I'm more used to European bilevels having the -Multilevel- outline where there's a -Midlevel- for boarding and steps to access the upper and lower levels in the middle of the car
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-Dovietail
Wide platforms and stairs are also a major safety feature, particularly in an emergency. People don't accidentally fall onto tracks, and if they need to get out of the station in a hurry, there is no danger of a horrible crush incident--usually FAR more deadly than any perceived threat.
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Wide platforms and stairs are also a major safety feature, particularly in an emergency. People don't accidentally fall onto tracks, and if they need to get out of the station in a hurry, there is no danger of a horrible crush incident--usually FAR more deadly than any perceived threat.
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-Crosshead1
Similar concept to Amtrak-s Superliner cars in that entry is from the lower deck, most accommodation is on the top deck as are all inter car connections, although I suspect interior space on the Superliner cars is somewhat more generous due to the larger US loading gauge.
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Similar concept to Amtrak-s Superliner cars in that entry is from the lower deck, most accommodation is on the top deck as are all inter car connections, although I suspect interior space on the Superliner cars is somewhat more generous due to the larger US loading gauge.
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-lordvolvo
I grew up in switzerland, and when i went to a other country it was strange with airplane configuration. I think the square configuration has more space, and is better for groupes, often when you travel alone, you never sit next to one, but in front.
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I grew up in switzerland, and when i went to a other country it was strange with airplane configuration. I think the square configuration has more space, and is better for groupes, often when you travel alone, you never sit next to one, but in front.
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-amtrakharry
Great report! That was a really sharp looking train! Liked the cafe/dining car! The train was really quite at speed?
There didn't seem to be that cattle car feel of the -Quigo - trains in France.
Thanks for sharing! :): ): )
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Great report! That was a really sharp looking train! Liked the cafe/dining car! The train was really quite at speed?
There didn't seem to be that cattle car feel of the -Quigo - trains in France.
Thanks for sharing! :): ): )
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-DrErikEvrard
You totally missed the location of the door sensors. They are above the doors. You need to waive at them: -) Look how all the people who are familiar with these trains do it - they are pretty uniform in all SBB rolling stock.
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You totally missed the location of the door sensors. They are above the doors. You need to waive at them: -) Look how all the people who are familiar with these trains do it - they are pretty uniform in all SBB rolling stock.
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-paddybm3245
Seat configurations always used to be square. It's airplanes that introduced this other way of seating. Or maybe busses before them. I really prefer it. Gives a great feeling of spaciousness. As long as it's only max 50% full.
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Seat configurations always used to be square. It's airplanes that introduced this other way of seating. Or maybe busses before them. I really prefer it. Gives a great feeling of spaciousness. As long as it's only max 50% full.
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-ericjamieson
It's such a good idea to have a childrens' play area on trains, instead of expecting kids to sit quietly for hour after hour. Just give them a spot to play where they aren't disrupting other passengers, and everybody wins.
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It's such a good idea to have a childrens' play area on trains, instead of expecting kids to sit quietly for hour after hour. Just give them a spot to play where they aren't disrupting other passengers, and everybody wins.
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The reason for the seats in square configurtion is the result of a costumer survey by the SBB CFF FFS. The swiss people wish it so. The Bpmz from 1980 was fallen in critics, while the seats are in bus or airplane configuration.
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The reason for the seats in square configurtion is the result of a costumer survey by the SBB CFF FFS. The swiss people wish it so. The Bpmz from 1980 was fallen in critics, while the seats are in bus or airplane configuration.
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-shangqijian6655
I prefer this kind of seating arrangement, if the train is less than half full, each passenger gets more legroom and there is more distance between each passenger. It's also very practical for family and groups.
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I prefer this kind of seating arrangement, if the train is less than half full, each passenger gets more legroom and there is more distance between each passenger. It's also very practical for family and groups.
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-naravse
In first class some of the tables are on the side (single seats. you have to pull them out. SBB is one of the better service you can find in Europe. I always travel using first class and i have nothing to complain. :)
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In first class some of the tables are on the side (single seats. you have to pull them out. SBB is one of the better service you can find in Europe. I always travel using first class and i have nothing to complain. :)
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-tobimael
The power outlets are above the head and if you wanrt to go through a door faster you can just simply put your hand to the sensor which is above your head too. Oh and there are tables coming out of the arm rests.
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The power outlets are above the head and if you wanrt to go through a door faster you can just simply put your hand to the sensor which is above your head too. Oh and there are tables coming out of the arm rests.
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-quirllin
I'm so used to SBB square seats, it always feels weird if I see airplane seat-configurations. It also feels more constraint to me. But interesting how we all grew up with different norms in mind.
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I'm so used to SBB square seats, it always feels weird if I see airplane seat-configurations. It also feels more constraint to me. But interesting how we all grew up with different norms in mind.
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-danielboulter6135
Fun fact: The IC1 is the longest domestic train route in Switzerland. During the day it goes from Geneva Airport to St Gallen. It takes 4h but is Switzerland's longest domestic train.
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Fun fact: The IC1 is the longest domestic train route in Switzerland. During the day it goes from Geneva Airport to St Gallen. It takes 4h but is Switzerland's longest domestic train.
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-gentuxable
Airplane seating was tested in thd 90s and Swiss people hated it. Some Einheitswagen IV single level carriages still seated with alternating directions are reminiscent of this experiment.
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Airplane seating was tested in thd 90s and Swiss people hated it. Some Einheitswagen IV single level carriages still seated with alternating directions are reminiscent of this experiment.
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-NerdX151
These trains were leased to DSB in 2000 for the rush hour InterCity services from Fredericia to Copenhagen. I remember people loving them and were sad to see them go.
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These trains were leased to DSB in 2000 for the rush hour InterCity services from Fredericia to Copenhagen. I remember people loving them and were sad to see them go.
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-eliteiel9747
Found it a bit odd how you didnt mention how comfortable the ride is. Whenever I ride this train i can barely tell I'm moving unless I look out the window.
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Found it a bit odd how you didnt mention how comfortable the ride is. Whenever I ride this train i can barely tell I'm moving unless I look out the window.
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-lokstollen124
I like that you can go through the train on The upper deck without having to go Down the stairs between every wagon, btw the lok 2000 is just beutiful
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I like that you can go through the train on The upper deck without having to go Down the stairs between every wagon, btw the lok 2000 is just beutiful
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The interior of the IC2000 is so 90's ish. I actually prefer the old configuration over the IC2020 refurbishment, because it makes me feel kinda nostalgic.
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The interior of the IC2000 is so 90's ish. I actually prefer the old configuration over the IC2020 refurbishment, because it makes me feel kinda nostalgic.
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-roye7777777
Many nice places to hike around in the near. Rivaz, Chexbres, St-Saphorin. Travelling through Switzerland with a rail pass is always a good idea.
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Many nice places to hike around in the near. Rivaz, Chexbres, St-Saphorin. Travelling through Switzerland with a rail pass is always a good idea.
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-patrick__epfan678
The seats are often very hard in SBB trains. Especially in Flirt and Domino trains. Still comfortable but i would prefer them a bit softer.
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The seats are often very hard in SBB trains. Especially in Flirt and Domino trains. Still comfortable but i would prefer them a bit softer.
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-Bobrogers99
So few passengers! A mostly empty train would lose money, so even if it is loved, you can't blame the railroad if they decide to discontinue it.
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So few passengers! A mostly empty train would lose money, so even if it is loved, you can't blame the railroad if they decide to discontinue it.
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-henryyuill1382
Always amazed in Europe how you can smoke on the platforms. In the UK smoking and vaping is strictly banned and you can be punished for it
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Always amazed in Europe how you can smoke on the platforms. In the UK smoking and vaping is strictly banned and you can be punished for it
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-toukyoumaster8734
I enjoy the general facilities and decor of the train, but those seats and seat layouts would drive me crazy.
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I enjoy the general facilities and decor of the train, but those seats and seat layouts would drive me crazy.
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-pikachu8508
Some of their IC2000 had been refurbished and put in service already, those refurbished set are called IC2020.
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Some of their IC2000 had been refurbished and put in service already, those refurbished set are called IC2020.
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-craterman74
those IC 2000 stocks looks like they are built on the same cauldron as the duplex TGV
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those IC 2000 stocks looks like they are built on the same cauldron as the duplex TGV
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-thetechnocrat4979
Nice review by you again. I, personally, am a big fan of the Re460 locomotive.
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Nice review by you again. I, personally, am a big fan of the Re460 locomotive.
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-jopaxx3914
So in the Children Coach is no Poweroutlet. But in any other wagon above your head.
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So in the Children Coach is no Poweroutlet. But in any other wagon above your head.
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