Aesthetic Appreciation: Crash Course Philosophy #30
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Date: 2022-04-04
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Alpha
Ad campaigns for beauty products usually have models associated with them. Ad campaigns for beauty products have a long history. Over those decades what's considered a 'beautiful model' has most def changed. Mae West in the 30s would not be considered 'beautiful' in the same way that Marilyn Monroe was in the 50s, nor the way that Heidi Klum is in 2020.
So, are ad campaigns driving the concept of who (or what) is beautiful? Or, does the idea of what is beautiful simply change over time? Notice how when people consider their partners 'beautiful' there is no way anyone can say that there's one set of objective ways to determine whether that person is 'actually beautiful' or not?
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Ad campaigns for beauty products usually have models associated with them. Ad campaigns for beauty products have a long history. Over those decades what's considered a 'beautiful model' has most def changed. Mae West in the 30s would not be considered 'beautiful' in the same way that Marilyn Monroe was in the 50s, nor the way that Heidi Klum is in 2020.
So, are ad campaigns driving the concept of who (or what) is beautiful? Or, does the idea of what is beautiful simply change over time? Notice how when people consider their partners 'beautiful' there is no way anyone can say that there's one set of objective ways to determine whether that person is 'actually beautiful' or not?
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Mark
Its really important to me to have my valves and brand lined up on my wheels and my quick- release levers on the non-drive side of the bike, the left side of the bar tape would counter-clockwise and the right side clockwise.
Steel frames with lugs.
If there is no God, then how could we find beauty in nature?
This is the same question as the meaning of life - its up to the perceiver to impart meaning or beauty onto something
Aren't these are second order properties?
All Hume as tapped into is that there is a shared -frames of mind' of all mammals.
Can't flies perceive -stink- of a rotting corpse as 'a many splendid thing '
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Its really important to me to have my valves and brand lined up on my wheels and my quick- release levers on the non-drive side of the bike, the left side of the bar tape would counter-clockwise and the right side clockwise.
Steel frames with lugs.
If there is no God, then how could we find beauty in nature?
This is the same question as the meaning of life - its up to the perceiver to impart meaning or beauty onto something
Aren't these are second order properties?
All Hume as tapped into is that there is a shared -frames of mind' of all mammals.
Can't flies perceive -stink- of a rotting corpse as 'a many splendid thing '
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Hani
with the red paintings example, i feel like the fact that wildly different circumstances and intentions can reach what on face value is the same painting is part of the artistry. it makes all 4 pieces into one big statement in a way. Sure, you wouldn't get that by just looking at the four instantly but a lot of art takes context to appreciate. I dont think its important to -judge one of them as better than the other-
Also i hate the idea of good taste. Sure, there are people who understand basketball or wine on a deeper level than other people, but i just can't see that as being objectively -good-
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with the red paintings example, i feel like the fact that wildly different circumstances and intentions can reach what on face value is the same painting is part of the artistry. it makes all 4 pieces into one big statement in a way. Sure, you wouldn't get that by just looking at the four instantly but a lot of art takes context to appreciate. I dont think its important to -judge one of them as better than the other-
Also i hate the idea of good taste. Sure, there are people who understand basketball or wine on a deeper level than other people, but i just can't see that as being objectively -good-
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Tom
I remember back in my undergrad and my creative writing professor told us about the time he went to a modern art museum and put his hat on the floor and just stared at it, intently. Slowly, more people came to look at the hat. He'd whisper to someone -I think it's called 'Drowned Boy'-. Eventually, there was a crowd. After a while, he picked up the hat, put it on an walked away.
Everyone thought it was a performance piece and talked about how deep and meaningful it was.
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I remember back in my undergrad and my creative writing professor told us about the time he went to a modern art museum and put his hat on the floor and just stared at it, intently. Slowly, more people came to look at the hat. He'd whisper to someone -I think it's called 'Drowned Boy'-. Eventually, there was a crowd. After a while, he picked up the hat, put it on an walked away.
Everyone thought it was a performance piece and talked about how deep and meaningful it was.
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kaerblover
-He said that when we think about art, we should take care not to confuse the question,
-Do I like it? - with the question, -Is it good? -
Hume said that, as long as you-re being honest, you can-t be wrong about whether or not you like something.
Because that-s totally subjective.
But, the question of -Is it good? - is another matter entirely. -
-Crash Course Philosophy #30
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-He said that when we think about art, we should take care not to confuse the question,
-Do I like it? - with the question, -Is it good? -
Hume said that, as long as you-re being honest, you can-t be wrong about whether or not you like something.
Because that-s totally subjective.
But, the question of -Is it good? - is another matter entirely. -
-Crash Course Philosophy #30
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robert
Here is something for you. When I went to junior high school (Over 50 years ago) there was a statue of a Native American, knees bent head facing up with one finger touching his toe. There was a plaque with the name of the statue but all the kids called it Chief Itchy Toe. From what I hear the kids stiil call it that today. Sounds like something you could use in a video. somewhere.
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Here is something for you. When I went to junior high school (Over 50 years ago) there was a statue of a Native American, knees bent head facing up with one finger touching his toe. There was a plaque with the name of the statue but all the kids called it Chief Itchy Toe. From what I hear the kids stiil call it that today. Sounds like something you could use in a video. somewhere.
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by
to me, art can be anything.
a specific dish pattern is art, even if it IS mass produced and sold by the millions simply to serve food on.
that's -functional- art.
-unnecessary- art, on the other hand, simply evokes an emotional response, which is, of course, based on individual perspectives.
the business of art sounds rather elitist, if you ask me.
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to me, art can be anything.
a specific dish pattern is art, even if it IS mass produced and sold by the millions simply to serve food on.
that's -functional- art.
-unnecessary- art, on the other hand, simply evokes an emotional response, which is, of course, based on individual perspectives.
the business of art sounds rather elitist, if you ask me.
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Rob
I thought about one of these concepts for a while. Is the song -Why don't we do it in the road? - from the White Album a good song because the Beatles wrote it, or would it be a good song if someone else did? It's a basic silly song by most objective measures, but we consider it classic because of the competency of the composers. Same with the red paintings.
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I thought about one of these concepts for a while. Is the song -Why don't we do it in the road? - from the White Album a good song because the Beatles wrote it, or would it be a good song if someone else did? It's a basic silly song by most objective measures, but we consider it classic because of the competency of the composers. Same with the red paintings.
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Nouvellecosse
1: 31 -Philosophers who ponder how and why aesthetic objects have such a hold on us, and what value they serve in our lives, are known as aestheticians-.
Then how come when I search the term -aesthetician-, the only results are for skin and hair care specialists?
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1: 31 -Philosophers who ponder how and why aesthetic objects have such a hold on us, and what value they serve in our lives, are known as aestheticians-.
Then how come when I search the term -aesthetician-, the only results are for skin and hair care specialists?
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Galahad
I think art suffers from the same -problem- of communication, you have the message of the artist and you have what other people -hear- and how it's mind's (memories and experiences) are trigger by it.
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I think art suffers from the same -problem- of communication, you have the message of the artist and you have what other people -hear- and how it's mind's (memories and experiences) are trigger by it.
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