To College or Not To College - Crash Course - How to College
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Date: 2022-04-04
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Marcus
Sure college is potentially a great path, but don't just go to college for the sake of it. Getting into a huge pile of debt and not completing a degree, or completing one that's of no use to you, is a terrible path to go down. If you're going to pursue specialized education, you need to either have a plan for a career before you start, or else figure one out pretty early on. I made this mistake myself. I figured that as someone with good grades, and that is perceived as being -smart-, I should go to college. Decided to do a Bachelor's of Science because I liked physics, math, chemistry, and engineering. I did a year focused on chemistry and hated it. Did a year focused on physics and hated the last half of it. Did way worse in Calculus than I should have because the subject was uninteresting and the professor uninspiring, and also because I lacked motivation. Mandatory English class was awful. After two years of school, I realized I was essentially still at square one in my pursuit of a degree, and already ten thousand dollars in debt, so I dropped out. Now I work a depressing labour job, but at least I'm saving money and paying the bills. So yeah, college is great, for some people, but not all. And if you're going to do it, even if you're intelligent and driven, you NEED a path early on. It's a huge risk, with some potential for reward only if you do it right.
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Sure college is potentially a great path, but don't just go to college for the sake of it. Getting into a huge pile of debt and not completing a degree, or completing one that's of no use to you, is a terrible path to go down. If you're going to pursue specialized education, you need to either have a plan for a career before you start, or else figure one out pretty early on. I made this mistake myself. I figured that as someone with good grades, and that is perceived as being -smart-, I should go to college. Decided to do a Bachelor's of Science because I liked physics, math, chemistry, and engineering. I did a year focused on chemistry and hated it. Did a year focused on physics and hated the last half of it. Did way worse in Calculus than I should have because the subject was uninteresting and the professor uninspiring, and also because I lacked motivation. Mandatory English class was awful. After two years of school, I realized I was essentially still at square one in my pursuit of a degree, and already ten thousand dollars in debt, so I dropped out. Now I work a depressing labour job, but at least I'm saving money and paying the bills. So yeah, college is great, for some people, but not all. And if you're going to do it, even if you're intelligent and driven, you NEED a path early on. It's a huge risk, with some potential for reward only if you do it right.
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thenarstar
Reaction time!
Try not to see a professor as a teacher, which is what education has been up until now, but as a colleague. You will bring insight into _each other_ and while you help each other professionaly you are likely to form good personal realtionships where you have a quick chat about coffee before lectures or meet them in the local bar or give them a car ride home!
9: 20 This bit made me a little worried. Because I know many of people get into undergrad courses and realise midway that this course isn't for them and finish with a degree that they don't really care about and feel like they wasted the past 3-4 years. A good bit of advice to to anyone thinking about college is that a bachelors should be a fairly broad field of knowledge like math or media studies, not any thing too specific. Once you graduate, you can do a masters or enter a graduate role at a company and there you will start to learn a very specific craft that will define your professional career.
The ultimate thing to do is to seek a careers adviser at school or seek the support of your nearest and dearest. Mum and dad, familly or your girl/boyfriend, husband/wife.
But the amount of older students is increasing and at 1: 55 I'm shocked and pleased this is really high.
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Reaction time!
Try not to see a professor as a teacher, which is what education has been up until now, but as a colleague. You will bring insight into _each other_ and while you help each other professionaly you are likely to form good personal realtionships where you have a quick chat about coffee before lectures or meet them in the local bar or give them a car ride home!
9: 20 This bit made me a little worried. Because I know many of people get into undergrad courses and realise midway that this course isn't for them and finish with a degree that they don't really care about and feel like they wasted the past 3-4 years. A good bit of advice to to anyone thinking about college is that a bachelors should be a fairly broad field of knowledge like math or media studies, not any thing too specific. Once you graduate, you can do a masters or enter a graduate role at a company and there you will start to learn a very specific craft that will define your professional career.
The ultimate thing to do is to seek a careers adviser at school or seek the support of your nearest and dearest. Mum and dad, familly or your girl/boyfriend, husband/wife.
But the amount of older students is increasing and at 1: 55 I'm shocked and pleased this is really high.
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TheAstralBlade
I only realized this quite recently myself, but another option people have that I've never really seen talked about is simply taking more community college classes after/instead of getting an associates!
The community colleges are a great transition into either a full-year or work in general, and are super cheap compared to full universities: so it can help a lot more to take advantage of that lower price and close proximity to campus to take more classes-
These classes could be all the gen-eds required for a future degree, or simply opportunities to learn new things and explore hobbies at a low cost (such as taking art classes!
It's an option I've been greatly considering for myself as I've gone through my first year of community college, and feel it may be a better idea to take another year or two to continue taking these community college classes even after graduation to continue my interests and hobbies at a low price, likely alongside a part-time job to save up for future 4-year tuition!
. and along that note, it feels like a lot of people may not realise you don't -have- to complete these degrees in exactly 2 years or 4 years, and can spread out classes more if need be!
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I only realized this quite recently myself, but another option people have that I've never really seen talked about is simply taking more community college classes after/instead of getting an associates!
The community colleges are a great transition into either a full-year or work in general, and are super cheap compared to full universities: so it can help a lot more to take advantage of that lower price and close proximity to campus to take more classes-
These classes could be all the gen-eds required for a future degree, or simply opportunities to learn new things and explore hobbies at a low cost (such as taking art classes!
It's an option I've been greatly considering for myself as I've gone through my first year of community college, and feel it may be a better idea to take another year or two to continue taking these community college classes even after graduation to continue my interests and hobbies at a low price, likely alongside a part-time job to save up for future 4-year tuition!
. and along that note, it feels like a lot of people may not realise you don't -have- to complete these degrees in exactly 2 years or 4 years, and can spread out classes more if need be!
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D-bora
One thing I missed from this video, was important, although the admittedly controversial topic of maybe not going to college. I'm from Brazil, so my experience can be wildly different from people in other countries. But in my career, a degree is not necessary in Brazil. Studying at a University was sometimes fun, sometimes exhausting, and sometimes terrifying. but the way it impacted my life the most was the networking possibilities that I got. That being said, it was worth it because I was studying for free. Universities in the US are terribly expensive from my understanding, and I don't think it's worth it, at least in Brasil, to start your adult life in a huge financial debt for the networking. At least in Brasil, there are other cheaper ways of doing that. I'd say that it's important to evaluate first what do you want to work with before enrolling, figuring out if it's necessary to go to college, and, if it's not, first build your financial stability before doing it for fun.
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One thing I missed from this video, was important, although the admittedly controversial topic of maybe not going to college. I'm from Brazil, so my experience can be wildly different from people in other countries. But in my career, a degree is not necessary in Brazil. Studying at a University was sometimes fun, sometimes exhausting, and sometimes terrifying. but the way it impacted my life the most was the networking possibilities that I got. That being said, it was worth it because I was studying for free. Universities in the US are terribly expensive from my understanding, and I don't think it's worth it, at least in Brasil, to start your adult life in a huge financial debt for the networking. At least in Brasil, there are other cheaper ways of doing that. I'd say that it's important to evaluate first what do you want to work with before enrolling, figuring out if it's necessary to go to college, and, if it's not, first build your financial stability before doing it for fun.
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leadfoot9x
-Unless you're attempting the Ivy League prestige networking route, pick the cheapest college that gives you the best scholarships and meets your basic requirements. All that matters is the piece of paper, and nobody will care where you got it from 5 years after you graduate. Don't think of the difference between a $100, 000 tuition and a $110, 000 tuition as 10%. Think of it as $10, 000, which most people do not have. Yes, engineering school is brutal. Some majors are glorified continuations of high school, and others are probably not great for your mental health. College should not be -the best years of your life- unless you're in one of the former majors. I learned a lot at college, but it still left gaping holes in my education, and self-directed learning is perfectly possible, and more enjoyable. Again, college is about getting a piece of paper. If your career path doesn't specifically require a piece of paper, college might not be for you. -
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-Unless you're attempting the Ivy League prestige networking route, pick the cheapest college that gives you the best scholarships and meets your basic requirements. All that matters is the piece of paper, and nobody will care where you got it from 5 years after you graduate. Don't think of the difference between a $100, 000 tuition and a $110, 000 tuition as 10%. Think of it as $10, 000, which most people do not have. Yes, engineering school is brutal. Some majors are glorified continuations of high school, and others are probably not great for your mental health. College should not be -the best years of your life- unless you're in one of the former majors. I learned a lot at college, but it still left gaping holes in my education, and self-directed learning is perfectly possible, and more enjoyable. Again, college is about getting a piece of paper. If your career path doesn't specifically require a piece of paper, college might not be for you. -
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ChillsAhoy
So that everyone can see different perspectives, I'll give mine. All my life I had wanted to do science, and dreamed of being a researcher. So I studied biochemistry at university, the first in my family to do so, and in my last year, while doing the research project, I found that I didn't like academia all that much. So after graduating I went into healthcare and worked my way up. While I am not directly using my degree, the knowledge and skills I gained have definitely allowed me to get to where I am now, and shape some of my decisions or approaches in my current job.
My mother, on the other hand, started a part-time degree in her late 40s. Since graduating, she has not gotten a job related to her degree (it's hard to get hired as a philosopher) but the experience of studying at that level has changed her forever, and she wouldn't trade it for anything.
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So that everyone can see different perspectives, I'll give mine. All my life I had wanted to do science, and dreamed of being a researcher. So I studied biochemistry at university, the first in my family to do so, and in my last year, while doing the research project, I found that I didn't like academia all that much. So after graduating I went into healthcare and worked my way up. While I am not directly using my degree, the knowledge and skills I gained have definitely allowed me to get to where I am now, and shape some of my decisions or approaches in my current job.
My mother, on the other hand, started a part-time degree in her late 40s. Since graduating, she has not gotten a job related to her degree (it's hard to get hired as a philosopher) but the experience of studying at that level has changed her forever, and she wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Oukai
If you have a strong idea of what you want to study and you either get amazing financial aid or go to a state school: go for it. Otherwise I'd hold off. We were sold a lie - that you're just supposed to know what you wanna do at 18 and you should pay 100-250k for the privilege of maybe learning sorta about something that might eventually let you work in your desired field. It's a joke. With the exception of access to expensive facilities, you can learn just about everything you could in undergrad and even graduate school, online for little or no money. Take some time and work some crappy jobs while figuring out what you actually would like to do then pursue that whether it be through college or not. Traditional 4 year college is another class divider enjoyed and enforced by the richest Americans.
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If you have a strong idea of what you want to study and you either get amazing financial aid or go to a state school: go for it. Otherwise I'd hold off. We were sold a lie - that you're just supposed to know what you wanna do at 18 and you should pay 100-250k for the privilege of maybe learning sorta about something that might eventually let you work in your desired field. It's a joke. With the exception of access to expensive facilities, you can learn just about everything you could in undergrad and even graduate school, online for little or no money. Take some time and work some crappy jobs while figuring out what you actually would like to do then pursue that whether it be through college or not. Traditional 4 year college is another class divider enjoyed and enforced by the richest Americans.
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Vehi
If you devote your time and energy into schoolwork, you're going to have trouble finding a job because you have little work experience. If you get a part-time job and work hard at it, you won't get hired because your grades are slipping. I understand there is a fine work life balance that you have to plan out but in the end just because you have a paper expressing your qualifications, it does not garunteer a job. So many baristas or other sorts of workers have college degrees and yet cannot do anything with said degree and have sunk thousands of dollars into. I'm kind of happy I never went but I remember senior year watching a documentary called The Ivory Tower that made me very jaded about higher education and the costs of it.
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If you devote your time and energy into schoolwork, you're going to have trouble finding a job because you have little work experience. If you get a part-time job and work hard at it, you won't get hired because your grades are slipping. I understand there is a fine work life balance that you have to plan out but in the end just because you have a paper expressing your qualifications, it does not garunteer a job. So many baristas or other sorts of workers have college degrees and yet cannot do anything with said degree and have sunk thousands of dollars into. I'm kind of happy I never went but I remember senior year watching a documentary called The Ivory Tower that made me very jaded about higher education and the costs of it.
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Craig
As someone who has 4 degrees (aerospace, general IT, network engineering, and a higher networking degree with a focus on cyber security. I will say college is pure BS and most need it as a check box to get a job. 99. 9999% of the info you can get for free online, and it is too broad. Like learning about negative space in art has never helped me in the work place and it has jack to do with what my majors were in.
Get the degree to get the job. Get the job to live. Do not live to get the degree or live to work.
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As someone who has 4 degrees (aerospace, general IT, network engineering, and a higher networking degree with a focus on cyber security. I will say college is pure BS and most need it as a check box to get a job. 99. 9999% of the info you can get for free online, and it is too broad. Like learning about negative space in art has never helped me in the work place and it has jack to do with what my majors were in.
Get the degree to get the job. Get the job to live. Do not live to get the degree or live to work.
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nightembergrl
This video title is misleading. They only explored one side of should someone or shouldn't someone go to college. The closest they got to the shouldn't side is saying that you should do it down the road. Would have really likes them to touch on alternative to college like trade school or apprentice programs (learning on the job. But of course not, they just pushed the going to college without even weighing if the costs is worth the degree still.
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This video title is misleading. They only explored one side of should someone or shouldn't someone go to college. The closest they got to the shouldn't side is saying that you should do it down the road. Would have really likes them to touch on alternative to college like trade school or apprentice programs (learning on the job. But of course not, they just pushed the going to college without even weighing if the costs is worth the degree still.
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