Sohla Bakes an Apple Pie Recipe from 1796 America (& Medieval England) - Ancient Recipes With Sohla
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FYI. Julia Child's -Baking with Julia- has a fabulous apple tart with applesauce in the shell & is topped with apple slices arranged in a gorgeous circle. It is delicious!
Date: 2022-09-14
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Fergal
Dear Sohla: I'm very interested in the preparation of venison. We just celebrated Halloween which in Celtic countries (like my native Ireland) is called -Samhain- (Sah- Wayne, which means the Celtic New Year. In Scotland and Ireland, there was (so I'm told by misty romantic Renaissance Faire type people) a ceremony called The Piping of the Stag, which referred to the deer hunters presenting the stag that had just been killed to the noble people. I'm not sure how noble that is in today's Southern California parlance. But please help with this, because I feel I should know how to prepare venison, otherwise, all the folks will say the same thing that they always say. -Fergal, you're getting awfully Americanized-. (This is not meant as a compliment at all. I'd like to be able to temporarily restore my cultural authenticity via the cooking of the deer.
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Dear Sohla: I'm very interested in the preparation of venison. We just celebrated Halloween which in Celtic countries (like my native Ireland) is called -Samhain- (Sah- Wayne, which means the Celtic New Year. In Scotland and Ireland, there was (so I'm told by misty romantic Renaissance Faire type people) a ceremony called The Piping of the Stag, which referred to the deer hunters presenting the stag that had just been killed to the noble people. I'm not sure how noble that is in today's Southern California parlance. But please help with this, because I feel I should know how to prepare venison, otherwise, all the folks will say the same thing that they always say. -Fergal, you're getting awfully Americanized-. (This is not meant as a compliment at all. I'd like to be able to temporarily restore my cultural authenticity via the cooking of the deer.
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Jana
It is a fruit pie. not just. Like one.
Lol. They had special ways of dehydrating all of those fruits. Canning wasn't even available yet everything was dried then reconstituted. amazing.
Put it in muslin. Bags, hang it high.
An incest very rarely even landed on the Muslim bags. And you do not have to hang it up but just put it on the top shelf out of the way and occasionally eyeball it. Things would dry out like that in the colonial era. But faster if you wanted to place them in the sunshine! And if they're going to be outside most likely honey bees will be trying to check it out. But anyway thank you very much for these enjoyable versions.
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It is a fruit pie. not just. Like one.
Lol. They had special ways of dehydrating all of those fruits. Canning wasn't even available yet everything was dried then reconstituted. amazing.
Put it in muslin. Bags, hang it high.
An incest very rarely even landed on the Muslim bags. And you do not have to hang it up but just put it on the top shelf out of the way and occasionally eyeball it. Things would dry out like that in the colonial era. But faster if you wanted to place them in the sunshine! And if they're going to be outside most likely honey bees will be trying to check it out. But anyway thank you very much for these enjoyable versions.
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M.
From a health point of view, the original English apple pie seems like the healthies option. It's almost like an old take on granola bars without any added sugar! So actually, even healthier than granola bars. I wonder how the old American pie would state like if there was no added sugar at all? The modern pie seems so heavy in comparison to both and at the same time way less nutritious.
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From a health point of view, the original English apple pie seems like the healthies option. It's almost like an old take on granola bars without any added sugar! So actually, even healthier than granola bars. I wonder how the old American pie would state like if there was no added sugar at all? The modern pie seems so heavy in comparison to both and at the same time way less nutritious.
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John
I bet that the butter that would have been used in the 18th century American recipe's crust would have been heavily salted, and much more salty than regular salted butter we know today because they needed to use it as a preservative. I bet the crust would have actually been more authentic if she had added a little bit salt to it even though the recipe didn't call for it.
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I bet that the butter that would have been used in the 18th century American recipe's crust would have been heavily salted, and much more salty than regular salted butter we know today because they needed to use it as a preservative. I bet the crust would have actually been more authentic if she had added a little bit salt to it even though the recipe didn't call for it.
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Fergal
I'm watching this and playing the original cast recording of -Hamilton- at the same time. It feels very colonial/patriotic. And I'm standing over the kitchen counter wondering how old the flour in our pantry is. We're guessing about 5-7 years. History is everywhere! Thank you for being fun, Sohla.
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I'm watching this and playing the original cast recording of -Hamilton- at the same time. It feels very colonial/patriotic. And I'm standing over the kitchen counter wondering how old the flour in our pantry is. We're guessing about 5-7 years. History is everywhere! Thank you for being fun, Sohla.
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Robbie
Growing up in Maine, even though we made apple pie with sliced apples, we always liked to buy cheddar sliced from a big wheel because the slices were the right size to lie on slices of hot apple pie out of the oven. We preffered sharp cheddar to ice cream on our apple pie.
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Growing up in Maine, even though we made apple pie with sliced apples, we always liked to buy cheddar sliced from a big wheel because the slices were the right size to lie on slices of hot apple pie out of the oven. We preffered sharp cheddar to ice cream on our apple pie.
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PbFoot
crab apples are not delicious snacks, and are way better for cider making, although they should also be great in pie. i wish you'd have mentioned johnny appleseed and his contribution to apple agriculture in america, and encouraging so many different varieties of apples.
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crab apples are not delicious snacks, and are way better for cider making, although they should also be great in pie. i wish you'd have mentioned johnny appleseed and his contribution to apple agriculture in america, and encouraging so many different varieties of apples.
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education
Sohla, today we use cold butter to make the crust. I suppose they didn't have (our version of) cold butter in 1390. I could only think that they kept it cool in rivers. Do you have any insight?
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Sohla, today we use cold butter to make the crust. I suppose they didn't have (our version of) cold butter in 1390. I could only think that they kept it cool in rivers. Do you have any insight?
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Future
Chill? Do you have an ice box?
Also. that grams precision for the english recipe means a scale or other measuring device. Is it something that a regular homecook would have had at the time?
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Chill? Do you have an ice box?
Also. that grams precision for the english recipe means a scale or other measuring device. Is it something that a regular homecook would have had at the time?
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Igor_21
I would have tried the old American apple pie with ice cream and then the English one also. (But I probably would have eaten and eaten until the ALL the pies were gone or I was sick or both
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I would have tried the old American apple pie with ice cream and then the English one also. (But I probably would have eaten and eaten until the ALL the pies were gone or I was sick or both
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gwendolen
There is pectin next to and as part of the core in apples. That may help thicken the filling.
My grandfather used to say - A pie without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze.
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There is pectin next to and as part of the core in apples. That may help thicken the filling.
My grandfather used to say - A pie without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze.
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Glass
I'm telling you. one of the best snacks is a saltine cracker, a piece of sharp cheddar, a little mustard, a tiny slice of ham or turkey, and top it off with applesauce. It's delicious!
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I'm telling you. one of the best snacks is a saltine cracker, a piece of sharp cheddar, a little mustard, a tiny slice of ham or turkey, and top it off with applesauce. It's delicious!
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M.
She left out one major ingredient, the spit! She spoke over the the dough and filling and everything else she used, I'm sure a lot of her spit fell into the pie ingredients.
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She left out one major ingredient, the spit! She spoke over the the dough and filling and everything else she used, I'm sure a lot of her spit fell into the pie ingredients.
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smtpgirl
these are great recipes. I have made apple pies and I always precook my pie filling before putting it into the crust. Cheddar cheese is a great complement to apple pie.
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these are great recipes. I have made apple pies and I always precook my pie filling before putting it into the crust. Cheddar cheese is a great complement to apple pie.
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art
Grandma had me cut the butter in the flour with 2 butter knives only, still to me is the best way
My hands are every where, why would 8 put them in my food - - LOL
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Grandma had me cut the butter in the flour with 2 butter knives only, still to me is the best way
My hands are every where, why would 8 put them in my food - - LOL
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Juli
Huh! I-ll try the egg white in the crust. Did you miss the sugar in the crust, for flavor? Thanks for this ancient comparison. Lol! Love your postings. Thank you!
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Huh! I-ll try the egg white in the crust. Did you miss the sugar in the crust, for flavor? Thanks for this ancient comparison. Lol! Love your postings. Thank you!
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Lisa
That was awesome I enjoyed that very much they all look good and I never knew that you could use egg whites either I want to try that so thank you for the tip
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That was awesome I enjoyed that very much they all look good and I never knew that you could use egg whites either I want to try that so thank you for the tip
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Milo
The apple sauce filling was cooked with the skins which contain pectin, so like a jam, with the heat of the oven, it should set up and be firm and gel.
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The apple sauce filling was cooked with the skins which contain pectin, so like a jam, with the heat of the oven, it should set up and be firm and gel.
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Natasha
Tried the first American apple pie. My applesauce didn't set up. But taste was really good. I liked the cheese with it. Definitely will try again.
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Tried the first American apple pie. My applesauce didn't set up. But taste was really good. I liked the cheese with it. Definitely will try again.
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