Can you solve the secret sauce riddle? - Alex Gendler
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Date: 2020-08-22
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Konstantin
There is nothing in the statement that guarantees that there were only two numbers when interrogator asks about second digit being '1'. Sure, that's a more logical thing to ask if you're down to two numbers, but interrogator asked about squares and cubes before that, which statistically isn't that useful if answer is negative, so that means he isn't taking the most direct route. (In general, best strategy for yes/no questions is continuing to divide range in 2) Assuming that the only options left are 512 and 1000 is, therefore, a fallacy of induction. Interrogator could easily have believed that the number is less than 500, got a positive answer for second digit being one, and left convinced that the number is actually 216, which is the only perfect cube under 500 with second digit being 1. That would result in recipe being in safe #729. It's less likely, but cannot be excluded by conditions of the problem as stated.
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There is nothing in the statement that guarantees that there were only two numbers when interrogator asks about second digit being '1'. Sure, that's a more logical thing to ask if you're down to two numbers, but interrogator asked about squares and cubes before that, which statistically isn't that useful if answer is negative, so that means he isn't taking the most direct route. (In general, best strategy for yes/no questions is continuing to divide range in 2) Assuming that the only options left are 512 and 1000 is, therefore, a fallacy of induction. Interrogator could easily have believed that the number is less than 500, got a positive answer for second digit being one, and left convinced that the number is actually 216, which is the only perfect cube under 500 with second digit being 1. That would result in recipe being in safe #729. It's less likely, but cannot be excluded by conditions of the problem as stated.
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Elijah
I know I'm late, but I need help.
I'm confused because when the interrogator says Is the number less than 500? and the chef lies, you still can't really tell.
Let me explain. Ted-Ed says that the number is less than 500 because of the chef's answer, but you still really can't tell if it really is less than 500.
Imagine that you don't know the number. The chef lies when he's asked if it's less than 500. It could really be higher than 500 because the chef might've answered Yes. You can tell it's a lie but still can't tell whether it's above 500 or below. What I'm saying is that if the number is greater than 500, and the chef answered Yes then it's still a lie and the number is greater than 500 but Ted-Ed says it's below 500.
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I know I'm late, but I need help.
I'm confused because when the interrogator says Is the number less than 500? and the chef lies, you still can't really tell.
Let me explain. Ted-Ed says that the number is less than 500 because of the chef's answer, but you still really can't tell if it really is less than 500.
Imagine that you don't know the number. The chef lies when he's asked if it's less than 500. It could really be higher than 500 because the chef might've answered Yes. You can tell it's a lie but still can't tell whether it's above 500 or below. What I'm saying is that if the number is greater than 500, and the chef answered Yes then it's still a lie and the number is greater than 500 but Ted-Ed says it's below 500.
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TED-Ed
Riddlers, we have one more thing to add to the rules! Read this while you pause: the last thing the interrogator says to the chef is: If you just tell me whether or not the numbers second digit is one, well be done here. You dont know whether the chef answers that truthfully, but whatever he says, that makes the interrogator think he knows where the recipe is.
Thanks everyone, now back to riddling!
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Riddlers, we have one more thing to add to the rules! Read this while you pause: the last thing the interrogator says to the chef is: If you just tell me whether or not the numbers second digit is one, well be done here. You dont know whether the chef answers that truthfully, but whatever he says, that makes the interrogator think he knows where the recipe is.
Thanks everyone, now back to riddling!
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Bebgab
2: 09 not necessarily true. Yes, he asks whether or not the second digit is one, and makes his decision off of that, but in theory his numbers he wants to decide between are 110, 120, 130, 140, and 150. If the answer to if the second digit is 1 is yes then the interrogation would be complete, but this is much more than 2 remaining options
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2: 09 not necessarily true. Yes, he asks whether or not the second digit is one, and makes his decision off of that, but in theory his numbers he wants to decide between are 110, 120, 130, 140, and 150. If the answer to if the second digit is 1 is yes then the interrogation would be complete, but this is much more than 2 remaining options
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Oliver
This solution assumes the interrogator knows the final question (about the 2nd digit being 1) will give them the answer. If they dont, there are many more possible answers for what the interrogator thinks the box is, if the chefs answer to that question is Yes (81, 216, 512, 1156. That makes this impossible to solve.
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This solution assumes the interrogator knows the final question (about the 2nd digit being 1) will give them the answer. If they dont, there are many more possible answers for what the interrogator thinks the box is, if the chefs answer to that question is Yes (81, 216, 512, 1156. That makes this impossible to solve.
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Sahaj
What if the answer to is it greater than 500 was no. It would also make the kidnappers think 216. Again, in that case, we will still be stuck with either 64 or 729. We still do not know which one it would be. I believe that there is no unique solution to the riddle.
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What if the answer to is it greater than 500 was no. It would also make the kidnappers think 216. Again, in that case, we will still be stuck with either 64 or 729. We still do not know which one it would be. I believe that there is no unique solution to the riddle.
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kezia
4: 18 no one knows how the sausage gets made, we just assume that it happens. - the room where it happened, hamilton
4: 22 take a break - take a break, hamilton
i just listened to hamilton song before this so dont blame me
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4: 18 no one knows how the sausage gets made, we just assume that it happens. - the room where it happened, hamilton
4: 22 take a break - take a break, hamilton
i just listened to hamilton song before this so dont blame me
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Patrick
As their top spy, your skills range from infiltration to subterfuge, to safecracking and reading faces for signs for deception.
Her: can read faces
Also Her: cant lip read
ok understandable. buh-bye!
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As their top spy, your skills range from infiltration to subterfuge, to safecracking and reading faces for signs for deception.
Her: can read faces
Also Her: cant lip read
ok understandable. buh-bye!
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AceTheWorrior
How does the person know that someone is lying, cant hear, but still knows if the hostage said
Yes or no
To any of the asked questions?
This is a big flaw in telling the riddle.
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How does the person know that someone is lying, cant hear, but still knows if the hostage said
Yes or no
To any of the asked questions?
This is a big flaw in telling the riddle.
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J. T.
The problem here is that you dont know if hes saying yes or no to the square or cube questions. All you told us was that he lied but he couldve said yes or no and still been lying.
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The problem here is that you dont know if hes saying yes or no to the square or cube questions. All you told us was that he lied but he couldve said yes or no and still been lying.
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