What if Europe Was Wiped out by the Black Death?
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Date: 2022-07-15
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meudwy
I was wondering if you'd read The Years of rice and Salt when I clicked this video: ) Though I thought you were pretty harsh on it, it's a great read imo. Kim basically went for the world somehow goes on a very similar history time frame model without the Europeans (colonization, tech progress world wars etc) and you've gone for the world will totally stagnate without the Europeans. Since the laws of the the universe are still the same whether Europeans exist or not, I think many technological strides would eventually be made in this alternate universe given the right conditions and humans being human. Perhaps Kim kept to a similar timeline since he didn't want to write until 2300-2500 AD (a lot more pages in an already long book) which might have been a more realistic time frame for his altered world. Ultimately perhaps the key point of his book was to create a good thought provoking story, and he did a great job imo.
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I was wondering if you'd read The Years of rice and Salt when I clicked this video: ) Though I thought you were pretty harsh on it, it's a great read imo. Kim basically went for the world somehow goes on a very similar history time frame model without the Europeans (colonization, tech progress world wars etc) and you've gone for the world will totally stagnate without the Europeans. Since the laws of the the universe are still the same whether Europeans exist or not, I think many technological strides would eventually be made in this alternate universe given the right conditions and humans being human. Perhaps Kim kept to a similar timeline since he didn't want to write until 2300-2500 AD (a lot more pages in an already long book) which might have been a more realistic time frame for his altered world. Ultimately perhaps the key point of his book was to create a good thought provoking story, and he did a great job imo.
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Elaad
Geopolitics is often mentioned in these videos. Its basic premis states that the geography plays a major role in shaping politics and thus history. From this it follows that the powers that conquered Europe following the plague would evolve in a similar fashion to European nations in our TL. Maybe slightly later, maybe somewhat differently, but the pressure of fragmented European geography would lead to an ever divided political Europe. These conditions favor those who use trade as a strategy, leading to merchant nations or those who can achieve a technological edge for their military or logistics. Europe would have led exploration one way or the other, just with different people.
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Geopolitics is often mentioned in these videos. Its basic premis states that the geography plays a major role in shaping politics and thus history. From this it follows that the powers that conquered Europe following the plague would evolve in a similar fashion to European nations in our TL. Maybe slightly later, maybe somewhat differently, but the pressure of fragmented European geography would lead to an ever divided political Europe. These conditions favor those who use trade as a strategy, leading to merchant nations or those who can achieve a technological edge for their military or logistics. Europe would have led exploration one way or the other, just with different people.
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antwan1357
IF the black death really wiped out populations their would be a large area of Europe considered no man's land. Instead of countries moving in as they would be too afraid off their infrastructure collapsing. Instead the impoverished would migrate to create new countries from those lands creating new countries. With the old countries at first not contacting them in fear of catching something that could potentially wipe them out. Creating sibling countries with similar origins but with different government structures.
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IF the black death really wiped out populations their would be a large area of Europe considered no man's land. Instead of countries moving in as they would be too afraid off their infrastructure collapsing. Instead the impoverished would migrate to create new countries from those lands creating new countries. With the old countries at first not contacting them in fear of catching something that could potentially wipe them out. Creating sibling countries with similar origins but with different government structures.
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MassNssen
Awesome video. Btw Berbers are the majority in Morocco and are not and we're not opressed by any means, especially since we're not talking about a single coherent groups, there are different Berber speaking groups intermixed with different Arabic speaking groups who all exist within the same cultural continuum with only language being different, for example Berber and Arabic speakers from the north are closer to each other than any other group regardless of language.
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Awesome video. Btw Berbers are the majority in Morocco and are not and we're not opressed by any means, especially since we're not talking about a single coherent groups, there are different Berber speaking groups intermixed with different Arabic speaking groups who all exist within the same cultural continuum with only language being different, for example Berber and Arabic speakers from the north are closer to each other than any other group regardless of language.
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Pal
in around 1200-1300ad, southeast asian kingdom already amass bombard that having case ammo, named cetbang, that is the reason they advancing toward asia mainland. but was cut off by internal conflict. what if they didnt have conflict, and keeping moving toward asia. as at that time was the golden era of innovation in southeast asia.
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in around 1200-1300ad, southeast asian kingdom already amass bombard that having case ammo, named cetbang, that is the reason they advancing toward asia mainland. but was cut off by internal conflict. what if they didnt have conflict, and keeping moving toward asia. as at that time was the golden era of innovation in southeast asia.
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Deyone
At least, there is no communism because you know what they say. better dead than red
Nah but for real the world would be kinda boring because imagine if there was no western world like America to create all that huge entertainment industry. Oh my God, all those games and movies and memes, I would never know about
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At least, there is no communism because you know what they say. better dead than red
Nah but for real the world would be kinda boring because imagine if there was no western world like America to create all that huge entertainment industry. Oh my God, all those games and movies and memes, I would never know about
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Maddog
The rest of the world relies on colonialism and soldiers to draw the borders
America just needs a number 2 penicil and a ruler
(Imagine living in a country where people give numbers to pencils, just imagine having a number 1 toothbrush and a number 2 toothbrush
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The rest of the world relies on colonialism and soldiers to draw the borders
America just needs a number 2 penicil and a ruler
(Imagine living in a country where people give numbers to pencils, just imagine having a number 1 toothbrush and a number 2 toothbrush
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Frank
I thought the Years Of Rice And Salt was a very good read. I consider it well written, though I cant comment on the historical accuracy considering the book is mostly a speculative work of fiction. You should elaborate on what you mean by, historically inaccurate.
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I thought the Years Of Rice And Salt was a very good read. I consider it well written, though I cant comment on the historical accuracy considering the book is mostly a speculative work of fiction. You should elaborate on what you mean by, historically inaccurate.
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Benjamin
I have a slight different interpretation here the Muslim peoples and Mongols who come into Europe would develop a frontier culture and merchantile life and I think they might move back into China with that as stimulate China through Warfare probably
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I have a slight different interpretation here the Muslim peoples and Mongols who come into Europe would develop a frontier culture and merchantile life and I think they might move back into China with that as stimulate China through Warfare probably
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