Why did the School System Fail?
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Date: 2023-12-21
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tpsam
Your final idea of franchising school is brilliant to me
I personally thought instead of government testing institutions or facilities and no public schooling at all
Like at age 12 or something you need to get a general knowledge certification so you go to the testing institute that provides that whenever you feel like your children have the knowledge to ace that test and get the certificate you can obviously retake the test to get the high score you are aiming for
After that you can get whatever certification you want
Basically privatising learning so each person or household is responsible for their own children
But just leaving the government for test taking and scoring and certification for general knowledge
There would probably a second certification later on for higher education with a similar test to that for 12 years old first certificate but much more difficult so teens can use that certificate to try get scholarship form university or something
But also here is the main highlight
There would also be room for many not government affiliated testing institutions maybe sponsored by companies or made by retired former workers or something
To test and give certificates in their job fields
Like former mechanics being the ones running the testing institution that gives certification to people who are supposed to know how to fix a car
So all the kids that by the age of 12 or after that age who got the first certificate from the government for general knowledge can choose to learn whatever they want privately and go get the certificate for that specific job from that testing institution and the more certification you get that have good synergy with each other certifications the more you will look like a good job candidate for certain jobs applications
And as all these various testing institutions get more popular I guess the relatives private schools aimed to pass these tests for each institution with different certificates will also supply the demand of the market for this need
I just hope it doesn't create a loop in which the testing institutions don't get corrupted and they themselves teach how to pass their own testing they also provide
I envision that somehow the people who do the testing and the people who do the teaching are actually not associated and not getting paid by the same people
Because that's how I'm afraid things will break
And this also means eventually the market will start to show that some testing certificates from a certain institutions are more valid than others so like each testing institution will have to adapt to their competitors and show that their testing is more accurate and holds more credibility than the other competitors certificates from their institutions
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Your final idea of franchising school is brilliant to me
I personally thought instead of government testing institutions or facilities and no public schooling at all
Like at age 12 or something you need to get a general knowledge certification so you go to the testing institute that provides that whenever you feel like your children have the knowledge to ace that test and get the certificate you can obviously retake the test to get the high score you are aiming for
After that you can get whatever certification you want
Basically privatising learning so each person or household is responsible for their own children
But just leaving the government for test taking and scoring and certification for general knowledge
There would probably a second certification later on for higher education with a similar test to that for 12 years old first certificate but much more difficult so teens can use that certificate to try get scholarship form university or something
But also here is the main highlight
There would also be room for many not government affiliated testing institutions maybe sponsored by companies or made by retired former workers or something
To test and give certificates in their job fields
Like former mechanics being the ones running the testing institution that gives certification to people who are supposed to know how to fix a car
So all the kids that by the age of 12 or after that age who got the first certificate from the government for general knowledge can choose to learn whatever they want privately and go get the certificate for that specific job from that testing institution and the more certification you get that have good synergy with each other certifications the more you will look like a good job candidate for certain jobs applications
And as all these various testing institutions get more popular I guess the relatives private schools aimed to pass these tests for each institution with different certificates will also supply the demand of the market for this need
I just hope it doesn't create a loop in which the testing institutions don't get corrupted and they themselves teach how to pass their own testing they also provide
I envision that somehow the people who do the testing and the people who do the teaching are actually not associated and not getting paid by the same people
Because that's how I'm afraid things will break
And this also means eventually the market will start to show that some testing certificates from a certain institutions are more valid than others so like each testing institution will have to adapt to their competitors and show that their testing is more accurate and holds more credibility than the other competitors certificates from their institutions
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bsdims
I went to a school for the visually-impaired for middle & high school, seeing as I've fit the bill since birth. The teachers there were very nice & welcoming to everyone, mainly because in my experience, at most 6 students would be in a room at a time, so it'd make things very student focused if one needed help on something when need-be. I'll always remember this one time when I'd sent my computer science teacher a rant regarding school, how it didn't cater to my needs & such, & during the next day, she actually pulled me out of a free period to talk one-on-one with me about the matter. She was so concerned for me, she'd even told her SO about the matter, who'd then written me a letter regarding his two-cents. That moment alone will always ripple in my head, it almost makes me tear up how we need more teachers who care for their students, & who can cater their subjects to their individual interests.
When it comes to my personal interests born out of self discovery, it was & still is tracker music at heart, something I wish a class catered itself over partially for me. Other interests were born out of hearing about them from others & reading/listening up on them if I chose to, as opposed to being forced to do assignments proving you did the thing that day. If anything, the assignments only devalued whatever was taught, & I'm only realizing now how interesting things like France's revolution were, like there was a mental cooldown period post-homework-submission. Socially, I was never really friends with anyone beyond those who shared interests with me, but beyond school & in more recent times, I've gained a ton of respect for those who stand up to themselves amidst their own fear, who're bold, who stood up when seemingly nobody else would, etc. A similar respect also goes to works of fiction & their creators that challenges their audience/bystanders, be it dark, horrifying, obscene, etc. In a more general sense, I respect those who pave their own path, who aren't afraid of backlash, & who understand that an audience will form around their work & its spirit. Why do I bring these up? It's my deeper interests/stances higher-education will never see due to how much it steps out of line in some aspects.
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I went to a school for the visually-impaired for middle & high school, seeing as I've fit the bill since birth. The teachers there were very nice & welcoming to everyone, mainly because in my experience, at most 6 students would be in a room at a time, so it'd make things very student focused if one needed help on something when need-be. I'll always remember this one time when I'd sent my computer science teacher a rant regarding school, how it didn't cater to my needs & such, & during the next day, she actually pulled me out of a free period to talk one-on-one with me about the matter. She was so concerned for me, she'd even told her SO about the matter, who'd then written me a letter regarding his two-cents. That moment alone will always ripple in my head, it almost makes me tear up how we need more teachers who care for their students, & who can cater their subjects to their individual interests.
When it comes to my personal interests born out of self discovery, it was & still is tracker music at heart, something I wish a class catered itself over partially for me. Other interests were born out of hearing about them from others & reading/listening up on them if I chose to, as opposed to being forced to do assignments proving you did the thing that day. If anything, the assignments only devalued whatever was taught, & I'm only realizing now how interesting things like France's revolution were, like there was a mental cooldown period post-homework-submission. Socially, I was never really friends with anyone beyond those who shared interests with me, but beyond school & in more recent times, I've gained a ton of respect for those who stand up to themselves amidst their own fear, who're bold, who stood up when seemingly nobody else would, etc. A similar respect also goes to works of fiction & their creators that challenges their audience/bystanders, be it dark, horrifying, obscene, etc. In a more general sense, I respect those who pave their own path, who aren't afraid of backlash, & who understand that an audience will form around their work & its spirit. Why do I bring these up? It's my deeper interests/stances higher-education will never see due to how much it steps out of line in some aspects.
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alanlight7740
34: 07 - of course most young people have never had an adult treat them like a real person. We have created an age segregated society in which men in particular do not interact with children because it has become very dangerous to show any interest in them. Even a clearly false accusation of impropriety can ruin a man's life, so _of course_ this is the result.
It seems to me that this was set in motion to completely divorce past from present, and to prevent older generations from passing on wisdom to the young - what is known now to most Americans as predation.
Which is why I sometimes say that if aliens had discovered humans and wanted to destroy us all with the least possible effort, they couldn't have come up with a better way of accomplishing this.
Also, as a general note, the school system has not failed. Quite the contrary, it has succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of the planners - who I suspect would regret what it has become if they could see the outcome. I don't think they had any clue how far their plan to dumb down the public _could_ succeed.
And since you mention that the best era for history writers was around World War II, I'll just say that after reading many older editions of books the best era for the quality of book editing and printing was around 1880 to 1920. Books of that era are frequently nearly flawless as far as the quality of the printing and the avoidance of obvious errors in the text go. There was a noticeable slip in quality by the 1930s, and books now typically have glaring errors every few pages. One scholarly book I came across from the early 1990s even managed to have a passage where a sentence got half way through its course before starting over and repeating itself before continuing through to the end - which was all the more glaring because it was the first sentence in the book.
I suspect that the best era for scholarship in the humanities may have been about the same time.
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34: 07 - of course most young people have never had an adult treat them like a real person. We have created an age segregated society in which men in particular do not interact with children because it has become very dangerous to show any interest in them. Even a clearly false accusation of impropriety can ruin a man's life, so _of course_ this is the result.
It seems to me that this was set in motion to completely divorce past from present, and to prevent older generations from passing on wisdom to the young - what is known now to most Americans as predation.
Which is why I sometimes say that if aliens had discovered humans and wanted to destroy us all with the least possible effort, they couldn't have come up with a better way of accomplishing this.
Also, as a general note, the school system has not failed. Quite the contrary, it has succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of the planners - who I suspect would regret what it has become if they could see the outcome. I don't think they had any clue how far their plan to dumb down the public _could_ succeed.
And since you mention that the best era for history writers was around World War II, I'll just say that after reading many older editions of books the best era for the quality of book editing and printing was around 1880 to 1920. Books of that era are frequently nearly flawless as far as the quality of the printing and the avoidance of obvious errors in the text go. There was a noticeable slip in quality by the 1930s, and books now typically have glaring errors every few pages. One scholarly book I came across from the early 1990s even managed to have a passage where a sentence got half way through its course before starting over and repeating itself before continuing through to the end - which was all the more glaring because it was the first sentence in the book.
I suspect that the best era for scholarship in the humanities may have been about the same time.
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swaggery
For my experience, I didn't entirely disagree with anything. What I disliked the most is just teaching subjects while not tying it to the real world anyway. The only goal is to internally compete to see high grades and because you know it's what will get you to the next grade or to university if you so chose to go there. The worst of this was English in high school and reading Mozart texts, where you need a translator to understand anything said in the text.
To teach you the value of education, your parents don't tell you anything, your teachers don't tell you anything. There's not really any hints of how anything could be applied until in university and the courses are focused and in depth in a particular topic enough you could at least see how a few people minimum could use it. And even if your teachers and parents for some reason don't want to spend a minute max explaining how education as a whole is valuable in some ways, there are courses that could do this with ease. In university by far I felt that economics was so useful. Everything is applied to the real world, you use math to try to model social relationships, it makes it clear way some politicians do what they do. This is just an introduction course. From that now statistics and calculus have clear value. Stuff like this should be the focus of high school if maintain the current education system is the way to go. But, I never had any gender study or racism talks in school, I guess it's just America is a weird country.
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For my experience, I didn't entirely disagree with anything. What I disliked the most is just teaching subjects while not tying it to the real world anyway. The only goal is to internally compete to see high grades and because you know it's what will get you to the next grade or to university if you so chose to go there. The worst of this was English in high school and reading Mozart texts, where you need a translator to understand anything said in the text.
To teach you the value of education, your parents don't tell you anything, your teachers don't tell you anything. There's not really any hints of how anything could be applied until in university and the courses are focused and in depth in a particular topic enough you could at least see how a few people minimum could use it. And even if your teachers and parents for some reason don't want to spend a minute max explaining how education as a whole is valuable in some ways, there are courses that could do this with ease. In university by far I felt that economics was so useful. Everything is applied to the real world, you use math to try to model social relationships, it makes it clear way some politicians do what they do. This is just an introduction course. From that now statistics and calculus have clear value. Stuff like this should be the focus of high school if maintain the current education system is the way to go. But, I never had any gender study or racism talks in school, I guess it's just America is a weird country.
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hornetguy9063
I think it s a massive issue that we ve basically turned education into by women, for women. As a Catholic, I hear stories about Catholic education back in the day, and it was no-nonsense. When I went to catholic elementary school, the nuns basically ruled with an iron fist, and you better not displease them.
Now, you can t even really punish kids for misbehavior, because it might result in unequal punishment by race. But you can punish a kid for sharing the wrong opinion. Like if a teacher goes off about the advancements of sub-Saharan African civilizations and you ask well why could almost none of them stand up to foreign invaders thousands of miles from their homes in an era where news could take weeks to reach the decision makers? , have fun dealing with that wrath. You ll probably end up in some sort of re-education program.
At this point, we d probably have better conversations about the world with plumbers than teachers. At least the former is full of men who managed to deprogram from the matrix, at least to a point where they opted for career training over mindless pursuit of education.
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I think it s a massive issue that we ve basically turned education into by women, for women. As a Catholic, I hear stories about Catholic education back in the day, and it was no-nonsense. When I went to catholic elementary school, the nuns basically ruled with an iron fist, and you better not displease them.
Now, you can t even really punish kids for misbehavior, because it might result in unequal punishment by race. But you can punish a kid for sharing the wrong opinion. Like if a teacher goes off about the advancements of sub-Saharan African civilizations and you ask well why could almost none of them stand up to foreign invaders thousands of miles from their homes in an era where news could take weeks to reach the decision makers? , have fun dealing with that wrath. You ll probably end up in some sort of re-education program.
At this point, we d probably have better conversations about the world with plumbers than teachers. At least the former is full of men who managed to deprogram from the matrix, at least to a point where they opted for career training over mindless pursuit of education.
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whatifalthist
This is what happened in my country regarding trying to improve our education system. Whenever I pointed out how homeschooling gets better results than public schooling, the bureaucrats in charge of education policies get so enraged to the point they vowed to make homeschooling illegal. Any new policies to reform the education system that's pushed by elected Ministers are literally rubbished by the entrenched bureaucrats. Heck! Even the suggestions from professional industrial bodies who need well-educated manpower for their businesses are summarily rejected by them! Which is why we worked together with some of the professional industrial bodies to come up with industrial apprenticeship programs (the only option to resolve the lack of accreditation issue under such programs. However, there are still many professional industrial bodies that are somehow still believe in the failing public education system despite their endless complaints about how useless the outputs coming from such system
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This is what happened in my country regarding trying to improve our education system. Whenever I pointed out how homeschooling gets better results than public schooling, the bureaucrats in charge of education policies get so enraged to the point they vowed to make homeschooling illegal. Any new policies to reform the education system that's pushed by elected Ministers are literally rubbished by the entrenched bureaucrats. Heck! Even the suggestions from professional industrial bodies who need well-educated manpower for their businesses are summarily rejected by them! Which is why we worked together with some of the professional industrial bodies to come up with industrial apprenticeship programs (the only option to resolve the lack of accreditation issue under such programs. However, there are still many professional industrial bodies that are somehow still believe in the failing public education system despite their endless complaints about how useless the outputs coming from such system
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vorynrosethorn903
A lot of ideas like industrial education and teaching to the test are widespread within education, but honestly they aren't very useful to reform, they are standards and it is very very clear within education that the teachers and academics want an end to them because they want to get rid of standards and expectations. They talk about teacher professionalism for example, but want it means is basically total autonomy and a demand for prestige without any standards being applied.
Also the pedagogy of the oppressed is one of the key textbooks for teacher training.
Honestly I think what we have now is not salvageable, we'll have to start again from the bottom. And at least until that point I will stress that home education is the only way to protect your children, things within education are a great deal worse than people think.
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A lot of ideas like industrial education and teaching to the test are widespread within education, but honestly they aren't very useful to reform, they are standards and it is very very clear within education that the teachers and academics want an end to them because they want to get rid of standards and expectations. They talk about teacher professionalism for example, but want it means is basically total autonomy and a demand for prestige without any standards being applied.
Also the pedagogy of the oppressed is one of the key textbooks for teacher training.
Honestly I think what we have now is not salvageable, we'll have to start again from the bottom. And at least until that point I will stress that home education is the only way to protect your children, things within education are a great deal worse than people think.
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twistedsteeltv6130
The education system in the USA and UK are setup to create obedient workers for the Capitalist system. They implement a similar order of activities to the workplace. When you can eat, when you work etc. The dumbing down of education, especially in the USA seems to be coming from the desire to have uneducated people that do not question the religious messages being pushed onto them by their parents and the republican party. Then we get into funding or lack of it which then stretches the limited resources for teaching. I think education should be teaching practical skills, physical skills as well as understanding political and economic sciences. We should all be educated to the best level so we can progress the our species forward and not backwards as seems to be the case currently.
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The education system in the USA and UK are setup to create obedient workers for the Capitalist system. They implement a similar order of activities to the workplace. When you can eat, when you work etc. The dumbing down of education, especially in the USA seems to be coming from the desire to have uneducated people that do not question the religious messages being pushed onto them by their parents and the republican party. Then we get into funding or lack of it which then stretches the limited resources for teaching. I think education should be teaching practical skills, physical skills as well as understanding political and economic sciences. We should all be educated to the best level so we can progress the our species forward and not backwards as seems to be the case currently.
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Sparrow24847
The obvious away from this is if I have children I am 100% homeschooling them.
The point about how much less intelligent we are then 100 years ago is so true. I remember struggling with classical literature as a child and being humbled by the fact that books by Charles Dickens were originally read for enjoyment.
I may have to try out some of your book recomendations. In general I find older history books more enjoyable to read because they are actually written with passion and personality. Edward Gibbon writes an insane amount of detail which is hard to absorb (especially on early Christianity) but I love his confidence and ability to make actual judgements that would get you cancelled if written today.
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The obvious away from this is if I have children I am 100% homeschooling them.
The point about how much less intelligent we are then 100 years ago is so true. I remember struggling with classical literature as a child and being humbled by the fact that books by Charles Dickens were originally read for enjoyment.
I may have to try out some of your book recomendations. In general I find older history books more enjoyable to read because they are actually written with passion and personality. Edward Gibbon writes an insane amount of detail which is hard to absorb (especially on early Christianity) but I love his confidence and ability to make actual judgements that would get you cancelled if written today.
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janstephen2861
Sorry, but the average person you meet in Africa, when you live there, is nearly retarded by our standards.
Yes, you can meet some bright sparks. That's how the bell curve works.
Maybe not IQ 60, as the tests suggests, but the average can't be over 80 my my reckoning.
Now, liberals like to muddy the waters by saying it's not genetic.
That's as maybe. I do believe the culture is the leading factor.
Men spending all their money on booze and girlfriends, and leaving their kids to be raised on flour and water, is not going to lead to the same intelligence as well-fed kids.
But culture or DNA is splitting hairs. The IQs are what they are regardless.
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Sorry, but the average person you meet in Africa, when you live there, is nearly retarded by our standards.
Yes, you can meet some bright sparks. That's how the bell curve works.
Maybe not IQ 60, as the tests suggests, but the average can't be over 80 my my reckoning.
Now, liberals like to muddy the waters by saying it's not genetic.
That's as maybe. I do believe the culture is the leading factor.
Men spending all their money on booze and girlfriends, and leaving their kids to be raised on flour and water, is not going to lead to the same intelligence as well-fed kids.
But culture or DNA is splitting hairs. The IQs are what they are regardless.
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dr. woozie7500
The downfall of public schooling has only been exacerbated by smartphones and social media. During my last year of high school, TikTok came out. You had people dancing around in the middle of class during a lesson and opening disrespecting teachers. The teachers had zero authority to take away the kids phones, even parents will say it s a violation of their rights. Most students cannot go 40 minutes without looking at their smartphone. This may not be the case for every school but at my inner city public high school, it could literally see the downward spiral happening before my eyes. The movie Idiocracy wasn t satire, in fact it was an understatement.
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The downfall of public schooling has only been exacerbated by smartphones and social media. During my last year of high school, TikTok came out. You had people dancing around in the middle of class during a lesson and opening disrespecting teachers. The teachers had zero authority to take away the kids phones, even parents will say it s a violation of their rights. Most students cannot go 40 minutes without looking at their smartphone. This may not be the case for every school but at my inner city public high school, it could literally see the downward spiral happening before my eyes. The movie Idiocracy wasn t satire, in fact it was an understatement.
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urbanoteal6334
That s why I loved my German (the language) professor. He had high standards and was quite ruthless when grading. My grades were middling, even bad, when compared to other schools in my city but our class was full of people who spoke German proficiently whereas those from other schools could barely form sentences they hadn t learned beforehand.
I still see him from time to time and not only does he recognise me, he asks me how I m doing in a genuine way.
Also, my friends and I were often discussing how little sense most of the school subjects made. We made an argument that the best pupil is a teacher or someone who wants to be one.
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That s why I loved my German (the language) professor. He had high standards and was quite ruthless when grading. My grades were middling, even bad, when compared to other schools in my city but our class was full of people who spoke German proficiently whereas those from other schools could barely form sentences they hadn t learned beforehand.
I still see him from time to time and not only does he recognise me, he asks me how I m doing in a genuine way.
Also, my friends and I were often discussing how little sense most of the school subjects made. We made an argument that the best pupil is a teacher or someone who wants to be one.
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whatifalthist
I was the gifted kid in school who hated school work and I was bullied for being a weak know it all.
Today I m less brazen about my intelligence, and I ve expanded my range while focusing on my own personal growth. Today the weak boy who got picked on can run a marathon, has fought in a war, and became a trained firefighter. Instead of following a path of debt enslavement and i just continued taking community college classes on everything and anything. I ve read 9 books on two people I became obsessed with this year in order to write a novel about them. My path today could not have been predicted by the school aged me.
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I was the gifted kid in school who hated school work and I was bullied for being a weak know it all.
Today I m less brazen about my intelligence, and I ve expanded my range while focusing on my own personal growth. Today the weak boy who got picked on can run a marathon, has fought in a war, and became a trained firefighter. Instead of following a path of debt enslavement and i just continued taking community college classes on everything and anything. I ve read 9 books on two people I became obsessed with this year in order to write a novel about them. My path today could not have been predicted by the school aged me.
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whatifalthist
We're now at the rate of technological growth of the 1600's today. I stopped there. Just go and have a think about what you just said. Patents per capita mean nothing. Patents per year that remain alive for more than 5 years is probably more relevant. That is exponentially growing. AI - on the cusp of AGI and superhuman intelligence. Basic sciences - all of the easy stuff has been discovered and explained - and yes we do seem to be regressing there with this idea of variable truth and cultural sensitivity to myths and traditions. Silly us. But the overall pace of change from every perspective is fast and getting faster.
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We're now at the rate of technological growth of the 1600's today. I stopped there. Just go and have a think about what you just said. Patents per capita mean nothing. Patents per year that remain alive for more than 5 years is probably more relevant. That is exponentially growing. AI - on the cusp of AGI and superhuman intelligence. Basic sciences - all of the easy stuff has been discovered and explained - and yes we do seem to be regressing there with this idea of variable truth and cultural sensitivity to myths and traditions. Silly us. But the overall pace of change from every perspective is fast and getting faster.
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NuclearFalcon146
Taking a Japanese class I have noticed the difference between English teachers who were a product of our system and a Japanese teacher that got her first degree in Kyoto and is a product of the Japanese educational system and teaches in a Japanese manner. It is a massive difference, no wokeness and standards are held fast. You either learn the material or you fail and even though the instructor is polite she is very firm on the standards. Even though it is a class in an American college it gives a glimpse of what education in Japan is like compared to ours. No wonder on objective metrics they are beating us.
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Taking a Japanese class I have noticed the difference between English teachers who were a product of our system and a Japanese teacher that got her first degree in Kyoto and is a product of the Japanese educational system and teaches in a Japanese manner. It is a massive difference, no wokeness and standards are held fast. You either learn the material or you fail and even though the instructor is polite she is very firm on the standards. Even though it is a class in an American college it gives a glimpse of what education in Japan is like compared to ours. No wonder on objective metrics they are beating us.
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candlelarbra5212
It's amazing how he can ne so wrong and miss so many obvious contradictions to his points in almost every paragraph.
We are at the rate of technological growth of the 1600s. Seriously? Never mind smartphones, hundreds of thousands of apps, millions of pieces of software, billions of lines of code. Oh yeah AI and all its derivatives. And that's just in one field.
As the breadth and depth of human knowledge has grown so to has our specialisation. You say we've gotten dumber but the average person today would have far deeper knowledge on their specialisation than at any time in history.
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It's amazing how he can ne so wrong and miss so many obvious contradictions to his points in almost every paragraph.
We are at the rate of technological growth of the 1600s. Seriously? Never mind smartphones, hundreds of thousands of apps, millions of pieces of software, billions of lines of code. Oh yeah AI and all its derivatives. And that's just in one field.
As the breadth and depth of human knowledge has grown so to has our specialisation. You say we've gotten dumber but the average person today would have far deeper knowledge on their specialisation than at any time in history.
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jhfdhgvnbjm75
I told my parents I was getting a crap education in high school and learning nothing, they didn't belive me and told me how wrong I was, 15 years on and they are starting to belive me now: ( Ironically the only time I learned anything at high school was at the end of one year, when they'd run out of 'lessons' and got the old 70's English grammar exercise books out, THEN I actually learned something. Sadly I've been beaten down by life so much now I've become very agreeable to survive and am now just like the teachers you described; smart, articulate and resentful: (
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I told my parents I was getting a crap education in high school and learning nothing, they didn't belive me and told me how wrong I was, 15 years on and they are starting to belive me now: ( Ironically the only time I learned anything at high school was at the end of one year, when they'd run out of 'lessons' and got the old 70's English grammar exercise books out, THEN I actually learned something. Sadly I've been beaten down by life so much now I've become very agreeable to survive and am now just like the teachers you described; smart, articulate and resentful: (
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bungalowlogic7676
My current reading (books within arms reach) include Max Weber (Protestant Ethic) JS Mill (On Liberty) JK Galbraith (New Industrial State) mind you, College Drop out 30 yrs ago, working in mostly menial jobs. I have no business chewing on these dense volumes which serve me no purpose beyond satisfying a ravenous curiosity.
12 years of formative Catholic Schools gave me just enough basis and language fundamentals to pursue lifelong learning.
Some strive to always learn, while most wallow and sink back into barbarism.
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My current reading (books within arms reach) include Max Weber (Protestant Ethic) JS Mill (On Liberty) JK Galbraith (New Industrial State) mind you, College Drop out 30 yrs ago, working in mostly menial jobs. I have no business chewing on these dense volumes which serve me no purpose beyond satisfying a ravenous curiosity.
12 years of formative Catholic Schools gave me just enough basis and language fundamentals to pursue lifelong learning.
Some strive to always learn, while most wallow and sink back into barbarism.
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Angl0sax0nknight
I was a horrible student in school so much so that in 7th grade the school made me take an IQ test. They were surprised that I was above average (117) yet I just couldn t get motivated to do the work. This character flaw has haunted me throughout life. Dropped out of high school, got my GED and even went to college but dropped out. Yet I taught myself automotive mechanics. I took an online IQ test in my late 30s (125) few points over 20 years. What s odd to me is my son was a straight A (4. 4 gpa) honor student. Go figure
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I was a horrible student in school so much so that in 7th grade the school made me take an IQ test. They were surprised that I was above average (117) yet I just couldn t get motivated to do the work. This character flaw has haunted me throughout life. Dropped out of high school, got my GED and even went to college but dropped out. Yet I taught myself automotive mechanics. I took an online IQ test in my late 30s (125) few points over 20 years. What s odd to me is my son was a straight A (4. 4 gpa) honor student. Go figure
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