The Anthropology of Karens
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Date: 2024-05-23
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Hardin9
Whatifalthist if you ever want to debate on the right of Right Wing and Left Wing to EXIST let me know, I think it should be an interesting debate. But as I'm sure you can guess already my position is very clear, the Right Wing and Left Wing SHOULD NOT EXIST. UNLESS. They go back to their original purpose they where created for, TO PUSH THEIR COMPETING ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHIES, AND STAY OUT OF SOCIAL ISSUES! Economic Philosophies Have No Relevance To Social Issues! The Right Wing and Left Wing Infringe on one's right to FREEDOM OF THOUGHT! They each do this by conglomerating together different subject matters that have no relevance to each other, subverting activism communities, and tell everyone in each activism community what to think on UNRELATED SUBJECT MATTERS, and have the damn audacity to you agree with the group on UNRELATED subject matters or be banished from the activist community! And again that is BOTH BOTH BOTH The Right Wing and Left Wing, BOTH BOTH BOTH The Right Wing and Left Are a THREAT to civilization that SHOULD NOT EXIST! And it would be totally justifiable for governments to declare WAR on the Right Wing and Left Wing!
If you're up for that debate let me know, but your job will be to justify the existence of BOTH the Right Wing and Left Wing, that's right defend BOTH, why such communities should be allowed to exist!
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Whatifalthist if you ever want to debate on the right of Right Wing and Left Wing to EXIST let me know, I think it should be an interesting debate. But as I'm sure you can guess already my position is very clear, the Right Wing and Left Wing SHOULD NOT EXIST. UNLESS. They go back to their original purpose they where created for, TO PUSH THEIR COMPETING ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHIES, AND STAY OUT OF SOCIAL ISSUES! Economic Philosophies Have No Relevance To Social Issues! The Right Wing and Left Wing Infringe on one's right to FREEDOM OF THOUGHT! They each do this by conglomerating together different subject matters that have no relevance to each other, subverting activism communities, and tell everyone in each activism community what to think on UNRELATED SUBJECT MATTERS, and have the damn audacity to you agree with the group on UNRELATED subject matters or be banished from the activist community! And again that is BOTH BOTH BOTH The Right Wing and Left Wing, BOTH BOTH BOTH The Right Wing and Left Are a THREAT to civilization that SHOULD NOT EXIST! And it would be totally justifiable for governments to declare WAR on the Right Wing and Left Wing!
If you're up for that debate let me know, but your job will be to justify the existence of BOTH the Right Wing and Left Wing, that's right defend BOTH, why such communities should be allowed to exist!
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Enjoymentboy
I used to be the manager for tv and Internet tech support and I LOVED it when a Karen would demand to speak with me because i Was the LAST manger they would want to interact with. I don't like people as a general rule so whenever I would encounter a Karen I would actively go out of my way to do the exact opposite of what they wanted unless it was directly against the rules my job required. I almost never was as I pretty much had free reign to decide how to deal with things On more than one occasion the Karen in question would threaten to cancel their business and I NEVER argued. In fact I would just tell them that I understood and to please hold on while I got my cancellations team on the line. I'd get the rep I needed and, with Karen on the line, advise the rep what had happened and that the customer has decided to cancel so please process an immediate cancellation Without question Karen would go on with you're not even going to TRY to stop me from cancelling to which I'd respond with You made your demands and I told you my options. You made it clear that my options were not acceptable and you were going to cancel so here we are. I have an agent ready to cancel your account and ask you need to do it clearly state that you wish to cancel and we will take care of everything else.
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I used to be the manager for tv and Internet tech support and I LOVED it when a Karen would demand to speak with me because i Was the LAST manger they would want to interact with. I don't like people as a general rule so whenever I would encounter a Karen I would actively go out of my way to do the exact opposite of what they wanted unless it was directly against the rules my job required. I almost never was as I pretty much had free reign to decide how to deal with things On more than one occasion the Karen in question would threaten to cancel their business and I NEVER argued. In fact I would just tell them that I understood and to please hold on while I got my cancellations team on the line. I'd get the rep I needed and, with Karen on the line, advise the rep what had happened and that the customer has decided to cancel so please process an immediate cancellation Without question Karen would go on with you're not even going to TRY to stop me from cancelling to which I'd respond with You made your demands and I told you my options. You made it clear that my options were not acceptable and you were going to cancel so here we are. I have an agent ready to cancel your account and ask you need to do it clearly state that you wish to cancel and we will take care of everything else.
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davidthomas3826
I also believe deindustrialization plays a part in the growth of bureaucracy too. More government and state sector jobs were needed to prevent crippling levels of unemployment occurring due to all the factory closures. A part of Maynard Keynes economic philosophy is governments should be allowed to run up big debts to employ people to do pointless jobs. Keynes himself said: It is better to pay men to dig holes and fill them in again rather than them do nothing. Civil servants and politicians like this economic philosophy because they can grow government, which give them more powers, and tackles unemployment. Banks like it because they lend more money. A lot of big corporations like this arrangement because governments give them money to provide services. In effect, employees of thesd corporations are effectively government workers. The billionaires who own the banks and corporations definitely like the corporate/state complex because it rewards them riches and power. The problem is that this system impoverishes, isolates, and disempowers ordinay working people
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I also believe deindustrialization plays a part in the growth of bureaucracy too. More government and state sector jobs were needed to prevent crippling levels of unemployment occurring due to all the factory closures. A part of Maynard Keynes economic philosophy is governments should be allowed to run up big debts to employ people to do pointless jobs. Keynes himself said: It is better to pay men to dig holes and fill them in again rather than them do nothing. Civil servants and politicians like this economic philosophy because they can grow government, which give them more powers, and tackles unemployment. Banks like it because they lend more money. A lot of big corporations like this arrangement because governments give them money to provide services. In effect, employees of thesd corporations are effectively government workers. The billionaires who own the banks and corporations definitely like the corporate/state complex because it rewards them riches and power. The problem is that this system impoverishes, isolates, and disempowers ordinay working people
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detch01
Karen's aren't a new phenomena. They have always existed and they are ubiquitous in the female gender. The difference is that in years past they were considered immature complainers that no one in their right mind paid any attention to unless they did the unwise thing and pushed their demands to the point where they became a problem. Once they did, the problem was fixed by whatever means necessary or to hand. Feminist ideologies changed that and put feminism on top of the social hierarchy. What we're seeing today isn't feminism but the results of it. At its core feminism is adolescent, immature and believes itself immune from reality.
In some respects it is kind of personally sad that I'm old. I won't be around to see women in general turn on their feminist goddesses in an attempt to find some sort of safety for themselves once the barbarians do take over - and they are coming. That will be quite funny in a cruel and brutal sort of way. What goes around indeed does come around.
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Karen's aren't a new phenomena. They have always existed and they are ubiquitous in the female gender. The difference is that in years past they were considered immature complainers that no one in their right mind paid any attention to unless they did the unwise thing and pushed their demands to the point where they became a problem. Once they did, the problem was fixed by whatever means necessary or to hand. Feminist ideologies changed that and put feminism on top of the social hierarchy. What we're seeing today isn't feminism but the results of it. At its core feminism is adolescent, immature and believes itself immune from reality.
In some respects it is kind of personally sad that I'm old. I won't be around to see women in general turn on their feminist goddesses in an attempt to find some sort of safety for themselves once the barbarians do take over - and they are coming. That will be quite funny in a cruel and brutal sort of way. What goes around indeed does come around.
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rexradar9297
Definitely issues with Karens, but its not leftist ajendas that support them. Its large corperate adgendas that support them, and the establishished burocracy that manitains the enforcement. The arguments should be framed vertically, not horizontally.
Karens support the overall economy by getting families to keep up with the Joneses, focusing business to keep the service level unrealisticly high (there by incrementally improving, and driving men to the grave through exessive work to pay for everything, reducing personal choice by ensuring that everything has homogeneity so precived differences in lifestyle are minimized (most Karens by shear number are middleclass, but want to live as if they are upper class. All of which supports large businesses.
As far as printing money goes, that has very little to do with Karens, but is worth a deep dive series on. Economy's has issues, but the money printing the US does is only about a 1/3 of the problem.
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Definitely issues with Karens, but its not leftist ajendas that support them. Its large corperate adgendas that support them, and the establishished burocracy that manitains the enforcement. The arguments should be framed vertically, not horizontally.
Karens support the overall economy by getting families to keep up with the Joneses, focusing business to keep the service level unrealisticly high (there by incrementally improving, and driving men to the grave through exessive work to pay for everything, reducing personal choice by ensuring that everything has homogeneity so precived differences in lifestyle are minimized (most Karens by shear number are middleclass, but want to live as if they are upper class. All of which supports large businesses.
As far as printing money goes, that has very little to do with Karens, but is worth a deep dive series on. Economy's has issues, but the money printing the US does is only about a 1/3 of the problem.
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Kalahridudex
When WIAH is based, he is giga based, when he is cringe, he is giga cringe.
I agree with 95% of what you said, but then you had to bring up replacement theory. Even if a contingent of truly nutty woketards are motivated by racist hatred and resentment towards white people, it's clearly not the driving force behind immigration. As I like to put it, refugees welcome. no human is illegal. brown people clean the toilet much cheaper.
It is one thing to want to preserve your culture's values, especially as those are the values that made us the richest civilization in all of history. I very much think that if immigrants vote with their feet they should vote the same way with their hearts and assimilate. But why care about race and ethnicity at all You've lived in a bunch of different countries and had a great time. What motivates you to think about humans like we're breeds of dogs
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When WIAH is based, he is giga based, when he is cringe, he is giga cringe.
I agree with 95% of what you said, but then you had to bring up replacement theory. Even if a contingent of truly nutty woketards are motivated by racist hatred and resentment towards white people, it's clearly not the driving force behind immigration. As I like to put it, refugees welcome. no human is illegal. brown people clean the toilet much cheaper.
It is one thing to want to preserve your culture's values, especially as those are the values that made us the richest civilization in all of history. I very much think that if immigrants vote with their feet they should vote the same way with their hearts and assimilate. But why care about race and ethnicity at all You've lived in a bunch of different countries and had a great time. What motivates you to think about humans like we're breeds of dogs
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joemccarthy4270
Where does bureaucracy come from How long has academia been around, what are it's boundaries(if any), is Caesarism a natural inclination of academia Who or what is the queen of heaven Places of academia are prone to promote the nourishing mother narrative but is that really the inclination of academia. The Atlantic slave trade in the U. S. colonies did not involve the wasting of a very expensive farm implement like slaves, only 1% of the U. S. population owned slaves during and after the colonial time. People seem to have selective memory as President Trump revealed himself when he told Hillary Clinton if I were in charge you'd be in jail then when won he admitted he was not in charge when he said he was going to make sure Hillary did not go to jail as if he ever even wanted to put Hillary in jail.
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Where does bureaucracy come from How long has academia been around, what are it's boundaries(if any), is Caesarism a natural inclination of academia Who or what is the queen of heaven Places of academia are prone to promote the nourishing mother narrative but is that really the inclination of academia. The Atlantic slave trade in the U. S. colonies did not involve the wasting of a very expensive farm implement like slaves, only 1% of the U. S. population owned slaves during and after the colonial time. People seem to have selective memory as President Trump revealed himself when he told Hillary Clinton if I were in charge you'd be in jail then when won he admitted he was not in charge when he said he was going to make sure Hillary did not go to jail as if he ever even wanted to put Hillary in jail.
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MuseseekerMan
Introverts deal with their inadequacies differently than extroverts. What makes sense to extroverts is to go out and fake it (pretend they are adequate and may enjoy their lives like those who are actually endowed to do so) or get drunk and hookup to confirm that they have what it takes. This is repulsive to the introverts because they could never imagine themselves living their lives in such an embarrassing way. They don't want to be like what they don't respect. But introverts deal with their inadequacies by staying home and working on themselves, believing that one day they will have increased their value enough to be worthy of a great partner, which may or may never happen. The extroverts call the introverts losers, and the introverts call the extroverts degenerates.
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Introverts deal with their inadequacies differently than extroverts. What makes sense to extroverts is to go out and fake it (pretend they are adequate and may enjoy their lives like those who are actually endowed to do so) or get drunk and hookup to confirm that they have what it takes. This is repulsive to the introverts because they could never imagine themselves living their lives in such an embarrassing way. They don't want to be like what they don't respect. But introverts deal with their inadequacies by staying home and working on themselves, believing that one day they will have increased their value enough to be worthy of a great partner, which may or may never happen. The extroverts call the introverts losers, and the introverts call the extroverts degenerates.
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AB-un4io
You are a brilliant young man. I’m so impressed by your ability to put these highly informative videos out so consistently. I don’t comment often as I’ll admit to being a bit intimidated but I had to comment on this one. It’s another spot-on analysis. I am considered a Karen on paper, lol. In real life though I can’t stand them! I was raised by a bunch of ignorant boomers and I’ve spent a lot of years trying to correct many learned but unwanted coping mechanisms with varying degrees of success. I’m a deep thinker and an introvert; both of which are decidedly not celebrated in this society.
This was fabulous, Rudyard, and I hope it gets many views and likes. But I hope even more that it is real food for thought for people. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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You are a brilliant young man. I’m so impressed by your ability to put these highly informative videos out so consistently. I don’t comment often as I’ll admit to being a bit intimidated but I had to comment on this one. It’s another spot-on analysis. I am considered a Karen on paper, lol. In real life though I can’t stand them! I was raised by a bunch of ignorant boomers and I’ve spent a lot of years trying to correct many learned but unwanted coping mechanisms with varying degrees of success. I’m a deep thinker and an introvert; both of which are decidedly not celebrated in this society.
This was fabulous, Rudyard, and I hope it gets many views and likes. But I hope even more that it is real food for thought for people. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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user-yz4tx7ig9e
I liked this one. I don't agree 100%, but it's been really great watching your videos and seeing you grow as a presenter and as a thinker. It reminds me of what I liked best when I was a teacher.
One thing I think that could be tied into the rise of the Karens is the need of the bureaucratic state as it exists currently is the need for a consumer class. Anti-intellectualism has always been an undercurrent in American society. But what is unique about the current incarnation is that our economy will indeed work on fiat currency as long as no one challenges it. This necessitates a class that is essentially enslaved to the system whose only true function is to accumulate debt and consume.
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I liked this one. I don't agree 100%, but it's been really great watching your videos and seeing you grow as a presenter and as a thinker. It reminds me of what I liked best when I was a teacher.
One thing I think that could be tied into the rise of the Karens is the need of the bureaucratic state as it exists currently is the need for a consumer class. Anti-intellectualism has always been an undercurrent in American society. But what is unique about the current incarnation is that our economy will indeed work on fiat currency as long as no one challenges it. This necessitates a class that is essentially enslaved to the system whose only true function is to accumulate debt and consume.
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nickvoelker7180
You left out the part where sociology is a complete joke. For my degree field, I had to take a handful of sociology courses. Minimal effort, maximum score. I even got published in sociology journal, presented my paper at a symposium, and won awards. I just did my average work, if that. There's also those professors that submitted ever increasingly ridiculous papers to see what would get published in a sociology journal. Turns out there is no limit. It's sad, I'd like to study in sociology and explore fitness culture. But, with the dominance of the left, I have no desire to study that in the context of this neo-Marxist struggle session they've created.
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You left out the part where sociology is a complete joke. For my degree field, I had to take a handful of sociology courses. Minimal effort, maximum score. I even got published in sociology journal, presented my paper at a symposium, and won awards. I just did my average work, if that. There's also those professors that submitted ever increasingly ridiculous papers to see what would get published in a sociology journal. Turns out there is no limit. It's sad, I'd like to study in sociology and explore fitness culture. But, with the dominance of the left, I have no desire to study that in the context of this neo-Marxist struggle session they've created.
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IchigoGyuunyu
Something I've noticed in modern Western society is that since it is so feminized there is a perverted opportunity cost apply to what men do, especially Young men. In normal terms; the opportunity cost is the opportunity missed out on by one choice being taken. For example if you go to a basketball game on the same night as a baseball game you miss out on seeing the baseball game.
To a femini society, the opportunity cost of a young man improving himself is that the young man isn't improving things for others. It's a very selfish mindset, not to mention a very destructive one.
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Something I've noticed in modern Western society is that since it is so feminized there is a perverted opportunity cost apply to what men do, especially Young men. In normal terms; the opportunity cost is the opportunity missed out on by one choice being taken. For example if you go to a basketball game on the same night as a baseball game you miss out on seeing the baseball game.
To a femini society, the opportunity cost of a young man improving himself is that the young man isn't improving things for others. It's a very selfish mindset, not to mention a very destructive one.
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edwardanenberg349
Karenizim eventually worked is way into my career through HR a a hierarchy dominated by Karens. Fortunately for me my retirement coincided with the final takeover. My post retirement life, motorcycling on road and off almost totally Karen free combined with Freemasonry an institution that totally excludes women, and a wonderful totally based wife. I’ve mostly left this crap behind. Notwithstanding Karen attempting to bend society to their will. as Americans wake up these concerns should be left by the wayside
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Karenizim eventually worked is way into my career through HR a a hierarchy dominated by Karens. Fortunately for me my retirement coincided with the final takeover. My post retirement life, motorcycling on road and off almost totally Karen free combined with Freemasonry an institution that totally excludes women, and a wonderful totally based wife. I’ve mostly left this crap behind. Notwithstanding Karen attempting to bend society to their will. as Americans wake up these concerns should be left by the wayside
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FLAWATN
Very good breakdown but I think you may have a slight blindspot. I had Boomer parents and I am more of a Xennial but helicopter parents they were not and I don't witness it as much in Appalachia. My immigrant wife and other young and middle aged moms of her culture are way bigger helicopter moms. I will admit your general observations are probably correct it just seems to be less observable in areas of the south but as there has been a big migration of west coasters to our area I do see it more and more.
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Very good breakdown but I think you may have a slight blindspot. I had Boomer parents and I am more of a Xennial but helicopter parents they were not and I don't witness it as much in Appalachia. My immigrant wife and other young and middle aged moms of her culture are way bigger helicopter moms. I will admit your general observations are probably correct it just seems to be less observable in areas of the south but as there has been a big migration of west coasters to our area I do see it more and more.
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aliasjones6381
There used to be another word for managers, and that word is steward. It is not the managerial class itself that is the problem, it is the godless and unaccountable mindset behind it.
Everything in my life, even the things that I own, even my very life, I am merely the steward of. I was born with certain talents, and when I die they will go back from whence they came, and I will be held accountable for how I treated the things I owned. I am only a steward, and one day the King will return.
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There used to be another word for managers, and that word is steward. It is not the managerial class itself that is the problem, it is the godless and unaccountable mindset behind it.
Everything in my life, even the things that I own, even my very life, I am merely the steward of. I was born with certain talents, and when I die they will go back from whence they came, and I will be held accountable for how I treated the things I owned. I am only a steward, and one day the King will return.
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castirondude
One time I had this Karen lady go nuclear and call the cops on me. The cop came and just went uhuh. uhuh. okay. and kind of rolled his eyes. When the Karen lady realized they weren't going to be doing anything she left so me and the cop hung out and had a fun time for 20 minutes after that. Like Rudyard says with the Leviathans, they have no real power. They only have power through intimidation and manipulation. If people see through it and refuse to go along then they are completely powerless.
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One time I had this Karen lady go nuclear and call the cops on me. The cop came and just went uhuh. uhuh. okay. and kind of rolled his eyes. When the Karen lady realized they weren't going to be doing anything she left so me and the cop hung out and had a fun time for 20 minutes after that. Like Rudyard says with the Leviathans, they have no real power. They only have power through intimidation and manipulation. If people see through it and refuse to go along then they are completely powerless.
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gavinkirk4787
As of recent, this one girl, I briefly dated, (whom has mental/ emotional and physical health issues[7 meds]) asked whom was the youngest person Ive been with. I said 18 while I was 26.
She then said and I quote, 4, whose parents brought me this toddler to pleasure. I quickly, very uncomfortably changed the conversation and eventually left. I brought up her statement over text, she said she must have been wasted when stating this. I certainty look at her differently. Should I report this
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As of recent, this one girl, I briefly dated, (whom has mental/ emotional and physical health issues[7 meds]) asked whom was the youngest person Ive been with. I said 18 while I was 26.
She then said and I quote, 4, whose parents brought me this toddler to pleasure. I quickly, very uncomfortably changed the conversation and eventually left. I brought up her statement over text, she said she must have been wasted when stating this. I certainty look at her differently. Should I report this
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whatifalthist
Look at the men who appear to be the most toxically masculine in our society, and you’ll likely see they are overwhelmingly raised by single women. Usually the same type of women that complain about toxic masculinity.
As to the Karen phenomena. I believe they come from women that had nothing to offer society but their appearance and when it wears thin and men stop putting them first, they can’t handle it.
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Look at the men who appear to be the most toxically masculine in our society, and you’ll likely see they are overwhelmingly raised by single women. Usually the same type of women that complain about toxic masculinity.
As to the Karen phenomena. I believe they come from women that had nothing to offer society but their appearance and when it wears thin and men stop putting them first, they can’t handle it.
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sparkychan123
Wow, I didn't realize just how different I am to modern day women.
But I have to say, the only reason I don't particularly like my husband watching porn (though I don't enforce a ban with an iron fist, its because I don't want him getting a kink for something I'm not comfortable with. He knows my boundaries, and I don't want to disappoint him if I'm not willing to go as far as he's fantasized.
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Wow, I didn't realize just how different I am to modern day women.
But I have to say, the only reason I don't particularly like my husband watching porn (though I don't enforce a ban with an iron fist, its because I don't want him getting a kink for something I'm not comfortable with. He knows my boundaries, and I don't want to disappoint him if I'm not willing to go as far as he's fantasized.
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Oldhogleg
I always saw them as neurotic control freaks. In a way it's a form of paranoia schizophrenia because they believe people are scheming against them and that they must lash back at those evil doers. Micro managing over petty minutias is the ultimate in exercising power. Decades ago they were seen as busybodies always more interested in meddling in other people's business rather than their own.
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I always saw them as neurotic control freaks. In a way it's a form of paranoia schizophrenia because they believe people are scheming against them and that they must lash back at those evil doers. Micro managing over petty minutias is the ultimate in exercising power. Decades ago they were seen as busybodies always more interested in meddling in other people's business rather than their own.
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