The Coming Population Crash
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Date: 2024-05-15
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goidogoi
It's simple. Stop worrying and wasting your time trying to convince people they need to reverse the trend blablabla to save Pax-Americana. Pax-Romanica, Pax-Britanica and all other Paxes can't be saved (i'm sure the people of those time were sounding the alarms and tried to arrest the collapse too, then the result will be no different for Pax-Americana. You know its going to crash and burn a matter of time. and you cannot awaken and save everybody even among your loved ones. Instead start thinking what is coming after it and how you going to interact with that new environment and survive its birthpangs.
I can tell you this much, shit like slavery going to return in that new era for starters. It's just a cyclical. And there in is the wisdom Islaam kept its Slavery Regulatory Laws intact knowing in advance this Civilization thing is cyclical and things abolished will eventually return back. Islaam is already prepare itself in advance for the collapse and that new environment to come.
We Religious people have extra information though about this particular history cycle.
For the Christians The Messiah must return by the 7th Day. Since his birth is considered the begining of the 5th Day, so he must return after 2 Days 30-33 years. Meaning 2030-2033.
The Yahuwd is about the same thing with some divergence. They got like about 216 years in general if left minus all the extricate details and calculations.
For Musliimiyn/Islaam we were given (told) our existence is a maximum of 1, 500 years (to cut the details and make shor, Islaam have only have about 66 years left before it dissappears for good.
Then a ALLAAH will break the history cycles forever never to repeat again since The Age of Prophets have ended (all 3 religions in agreement the Prophetic Age has ended. GOD is not going to fix the damage we inflicted on this world and ourselves again this time around.
Rather after a bried time, HE is going to destroy this current universe and reconstruct from scratch a new one from it with completely new Rules of Existence.
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It's simple. Stop worrying and wasting your time trying to convince people they need to reverse the trend blablabla to save Pax-Americana. Pax-Romanica, Pax-Britanica and all other Paxes can't be saved (i'm sure the people of those time were sounding the alarms and tried to arrest the collapse too, then the result will be no different for Pax-Americana. You know its going to crash and burn a matter of time. and you cannot awaken and save everybody even among your loved ones. Instead start thinking what is coming after it and how you going to interact with that new environment and survive its birthpangs.
I can tell you this much, shit like slavery going to return in that new era for starters. It's just a cyclical. And there in is the wisdom Islaam kept its Slavery Regulatory Laws intact knowing in advance this Civilization thing is cyclical and things abolished will eventually return back. Islaam is already prepare itself in advance for the collapse and that new environment to come.
We Religious people have extra information though about this particular history cycle.
For the Christians The Messiah must return by the 7th Day. Since his birth is considered the begining of the 5th Day, so he must return after 2 Days 30-33 years. Meaning 2030-2033.
The Yahuwd is about the same thing with some divergence. They got like about 216 years in general if left minus all the extricate details and calculations.
For Musliimiyn/Islaam we were given (told) our existence is a maximum of 1, 500 years (to cut the details and make shor, Islaam have only have about 66 years left before it dissappears for good.
Then a ALLAAH will break the history cycles forever never to repeat again since The Age of Prophets have ended (all 3 religions in agreement the Prophetic Age has ended. GOD is not going to fix the damage we inflicted on this world and ourselves again this time around.
Rather after a bried time, HE is going to destroy this current universe and reconstruct from scratch a new one from it with completely new Rules of Existence.
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brandon3231
21: 14 - 21: 32
I agree that this 90% Urban - 10% Rural arrangement can only continue to be sustained via genetically engineering the next generation of humans to be better adapted to urban living. It stands to reason that most of the natural humans would die out from not breeding, which will leave the urban-adapted gen-eng humans as the majority humans on Earth.
The scary thing is that the massive population collapse of natural humans has begun, and it seems that genetic engineering technology is not sophisticated enough to properly engineer these new urban-adapted humans. Can the technology develop quickly enough to begin engineering the new humans on time Would society be willing to adopt this new tech if it does develop quickly enough
Also, what are the consequences of having two distinct variations of humans: the natural ones, and the gen-eng ones
I don't know much about this, but in the very distant past, there existed different variations of humans like Neanderthals. It's my understanding these different variations all tried to wipe each other out, and only homo sapiens were left remaining. Will we have an interspecies war
Lastly, let's say the urban-adapted gen-eng humans win if there is an interspecies war, and natural humans are wiped out. What if something were to happen that destroys a lot of the world's cities A series of devastating natural disasters, maybe, caused by a drastically altered climate from global warming. These gen-eng humans would need to try to then live outside of the urban environments that they've been engineered to live in, in which case they'll face the same issue that we natural humans are facing currently: being in an evolutionarily different ecology that causes them to experience dysphoria and not want to breed. This issue will be compounded by this new hypothetical climate that's much harsher than today.
This all sounds like science fiction, but it seems like a genuine possibility for the course of the world moving forward
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21: 14 - 21: 32
I agree that this 90% Urban - 10% Rural arrangement can only continue to be sustained via genetically engineering the next generation of humans to be better adapted to urban living. It stands to reason that most of the natural humans would die out from not breeding, which will leave the urban-adapted gen-eng humans as the majority humans on Earth.
The scary thing is that the massive population collapse of natural humans has begun, and it seems that genetic engineering technology is not sophisticated enough to properly engineer these new urban-adapted humans. Can the technology develop quickly enough to begin engineering the new humans on time Would society be willing to adopt this new tech if it does develop quickly enough
Also, what are the consequences of having two distinct variations of humans: the natural ones, and the gen-eng ones
I don't know much about this, but in the very distant past, there existed different variations of humans like Neanderthals. It's my understanding these different variations all tried to wipe each other out, and only homo sapiens were left remaining. Will we have an interspecies war
Lastly, let's say the urban-adapted gen-eng humans win if there is an interspecies war, and natural humans are wiped out. What if something were to happen that destroys a lot of the world's cities A series of devastating natural disasters, maybe, caused by a drastically altered climate from global warming. These gen-eng humans would need to try to then live outside of the urban environments that they've been engineered to live in, in which case they'll face the same issue that we natural humans are facing currently: being in an evolutionarily different ecology that causes them to experience dysphoria and not want to breed. This issue will be compounded by this new hypothetical climate that's much harsher than today.
This all sounds like science fiction, but it seems like a genuine possibility for the course of the world moving forward
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michaeldavid6832
4B movement: This is a post hoc rationalization by post-wall XXs. Obviously. When XXs have 304'd their way through their 20s, they need a way to rationalize their mistakes which lead to their only state. It's called sour grapes and is among the most well-known defense mechanisms. You can't fire me, I quit!
You're still a young man so you may not understand this: they're solipsistic. They only live in the present moment -- as if the future doesn't exist. Why Because evolution only forced men to possess a long life history strategy -- to make plans and execute them with proper timing. An XX only cares about the now because babies need to be fed in the now and at no future time or they die.
The side effect of this present-time preference is that they put no weight on future consequences -- even if they know beyond doubt they're making a mistake. The future is of no import to their present -- even if they know the outcome of their choices is horrible.
Interestingly, a study just discovered this. It discovered that bad dating outcomes -- no matter how bad -- didn't stop them from making the same mistakes over and over again. Most men don't do this. We can't afford to -- the price is either deth or such losses as can't be sustained two times.
Unfortunately, since XXs have present-moment preference, they have no real principles or virtues. Both of those properties require placing heavy weight on the past and the future. All virtues are a form of deferral of gratification (preserving future options. All principles are about maintaining a continuity of self amid a social environment. Nobody can bargain fairly with a man who has principles. No organization can survive when populated by men bereft of principle -- not a government, not an army, not even a legal system. Even pirates had a code or they wouldnt' have survived as long as they did.
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4B movement: This is a post hoc rationalization by post-wall XXs. Obviously. When XXs have 304'd their way through their 20s, they need a way to rationalize their mistakes which lead to their only state. It's called sour grapes and is among the most well-known defense mechanisms. You can't fire me, I quit!
You're still a young man so you may not understand this: they're solipsistic. They only live in the present moment -- as if the future doesn't exist. Why Because evolution only forced men to possess a long life history strategy -- to make plans and execute them with proper timing. An XX only cares about the now because babies need to be fed in the now and at no future time or they die.
The side effect of this present-time preference is that they put no weight on future consequences -- even if they know beyond doubt they're making a mistake. The future is of no import to their present -- even if they know the outcome of their choices is horrible.
Interestingly, a study just discovered this. It discovered that bad dating outcomes -- no matter how bad -- didn't stop them from making the same mistakes over and over again. Most men don't do this. We can't afford to -- the price is either deth or such losses as can't be sustained two times.
Unfortunately, since XXs have present-moment preference, they have no real principles or virtues. Both of those properties require placing heavy weight on the past and the future. All virtues are a form of deferral of gratification (preserving future options. All principles are about maintaining a continuity of self amid a social environment. Nobody can bargain fairly with a man who has principles. No organization can survive when populated by men bereft of principle -- not a government, not an army, not even a legal system. Even pirates had a code or they wouldnt' have survived as long as they did.
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innosam123
People don't really talk much about this because it's a difficult problem to solve, and there's no comparable movement like there is for Climate Change.
There are a few things we know should increase birth rates (of those that have been tried) that should be feasible:
1. Solve the Housing Crisis. Duh.
2. Encourage people to get married. No marriage = no kids.
3. Ban dating apps so people actually have to go outside to find partners instead of being swarmed by hundreds of date requests (really hard to find a mate when you're competing in such a giant pool and people only choose the top 10%. Dating apps also suck generally)
4. Pension reform to increase pension benefits based on the number of children they have. Children used to be a financial insurance policy, and this will make pensions more stable on the long run.
5. Stop trying to push women into full-time work and increase work benefits/flexibility for working mothers like Scandinavia does.
6. Ban abortion. Probably the most politically difficult, at least in the states. Most abortions are elective- so the vast majority of 'saved' babies just never end up being born (and a disproportionate number of the remainder have genetic defects, but still.
One thing to note though:
This is one case where technology might change things dramatically in the form of life extension.
Since tech CEOs and billionaires want to live forever, this is one field that gets tons of funding.
It's probably not one technology, but multiple, and will be disseminated in rich nations first.
That would change these dynamics dramatically.
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People don't really talk much about this because it's a difficult problem to solve, and there's no comparable movement like there is for Climate Change.
There are a few things we know should increase birth rates (of those that have been tried) that should be feasible:
1. Solve the Housing Crisis. Duh.
2. Encourage people to get married. No marriage = no kids.
3. Ban dating apps so people actually have to go outside to find partners instead of being swarmed by hundreds of date requests (really hard to find a mate when you're competing in such a giant pool and people only choose the top 10%. Dating apps also suck generally)
4. Pension reform to increase pension benefits based on the number of children they have. Children used to be a financial insurance policy, and this will make pensions more stable on the long run.
5. Stop trying to push women into full-time work and increase work benefits/flexibility for working mothers like Scandinavia does.
6. Ban abortion. Probably the most politically difficult, at least in the states. Most abortions are elective- so the vast majority of 'saved' babies just never end up being born (and a disproportionate number of the remainder have genetic defects, but still.
One thing to note though:
This is one case where technology might change things dramatically in the form of life extension.
Since tech CEOs and billionaires want to live forever, this is one field that gets tons of funding.
It's probably not one technology, but multiple, and will be disseminated in rich nations first.
That would change these dynamics dramatically.
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bruhmoment9009
This is literally capitalism. Property is enclosed behind increasingly worsening barriers because we value competition over human limitation.
It's hard to have kids because the resources to have them is slimming as the cost increases.
Price Gouges and Real Estate shenanigans are literally just competition and rational self interest.
Even the Nuclear Family an invention of the post depression US is an unsustainable alternative to the prosperous extended family. It was invented to make a broken set of chain links in the family easier to market to. They relegated elders to Homes so that they couldn't make their grandchildren aware of the 20s, when people had more autonomy. Nancy Reagan's consumer feminism made it so they could justify two workers to a family. Most of the things you hold as values played out under the thumb of capitalist parasitism, and this doesn't make families where women work impossible, in fact, unique families clog the machine because they're unpredictable. The Romans' standard for a family was a subservient, predictable entity that was easy to please. The Nuclear family was easy to market to. When feminism resisted the subservient conditions of the nuclear family, capitalists just had no choice but to absorb and reapropriate feminism. That's it. Whether queer people continue to live in the open, or end up under intense state surveillance, documented as an unholy abberation alongside the mentally ill the capitalist class will follow the wind, and find profit.
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This is literally capitalism. Property is enclosed behind increasingly worsening barriers because we value competition over human limitation.
It's hard to have kids because the resources to have them is slimming as the cost increases.
Price Gouges and Real Estate shenanigans are literally just competition and rational self interest.
Even the Nuclear Family an invention of the post depression US is an unsustainable alternative to the prosperous extended family. It was invented to make a broken set of chain links in the family easier to market to. They relegated elders to Homes so that they couldn't make their grandchildren aware of the 20s, when people had more autonomy. Nancy Reagan's consumer feminism made it so they could justify two workers to a family. Most of the things you hold as values played out under the thumb of capitalist parasitism, and this doesn't make families where women work impossible, in fact, unique families clog the machine because they're unpredictable. The Romans' standard for a family was a subservient, predictable entity that was easy to please. The Nuclear family was easy to market to. When feminism resisted the subservient conditions of the nuclear family, capitalists just had no choice but to absorb and reapropriate feminism. That's it. Whether queer people continue to live in the open, or end up under intense state surveillance, documented as an unholy abberation alongside the mentally ill the capitalist class will follow the wind, and find profit.
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philipmcniel4908
I think it would be interesting to see a breakdown of the US birthrate and demographic pyramid for each of the Nine Nations of North America, which you referenced in an earlier video. My prediction is that the US birthrate collapse appears less serious because the Empty Quarter is propping it up. Contrary to popular belief, only a fraction of the conservative, rural Empty Quarter is Mormon; the rest is populated by a combination of cowboys, loggers, and miners with a notable population of homeschooling Christian homesteaders with 8-10 kids each. I think you got really close to saying this exact thing at a few points in this video, and I think it would be interesting to see you make the video How the Empty Quarter Will Save Western Civilization or something like that.
Which really should also include the State of Jefferson region, which encompasses the rural Oregon/California borderlands between the urban/liberal population centers of Cascadia and the SF Bay Area; as a side note, this also means that if each of these Nine Nations were actually its own separate nation-state, the Empty Quarter would not be landlocked.
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I think it would be interesting to see a breakdown of the US birthrate and demographic pyramid for each of the Nine Nations of North America, which you referenced in an earlier video. My prediction is that the US birthrate collapse appears less serious because the Empty Quarter is propping it up. Contrary to popular belief, only a fraction of the conservative, rural Empty Quarter is Mormon; the rest is populated by a combination of cowboys, loggers, and miners with a notable population of homeschooling Christian homesteaders with 8-10 kids each. I think you got really close to saying this exact thing at a few points in this video, and I think it would be interesting to see you make the video How the Empty Quarter Will Save Western Civilization or something like that.
Which really should also include the State of Jefferson region, which encompasses the rural Oregon/California borderlands between the urban/liberal population centers of Cascadia and the SF Bay Area; as a side note, this also means that if each of these Nine Nations were actually its own separate nation-state, the Empty Quarter would not be landlocked.
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Teddy_Bullmoose
Rudyard I want you to look into this but my hypothesis is that mouse utopia won't happen when a society stays religious (I'm bias so Id say the Christian god. If a society can somehow make sure it stays religious all the time they can bypass mouse utopia
Im with you that you can see mouse utopia in our society, however I only see that with the secular parts of society. The religious parts of our society seem to rage against the decline and stay healthy.
That brings me into the last point I want you to consider. This connects to the culture war-in that it's not left vs right or even college educated or not as you propose, I argue it's secularism vs religion (in the US's case Christianity. ALL the battles of the culture war are self constructed secular moralities clashing with the Christian interpretation of the objective morality. You kinda hinted at this in some of your vids tho.
Anyways the answer to alot of things is we must cling to God. The country needs more God not less. I refuse to elaborate. Also Christ is king
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Rudyard I want you to look into this but my hypothesis is that mouse utopia won't happen when a society stays religious (I'm bias so Id say the Christian god. If a society can somehow make sure it stays religious all the time they can bypass mouse utopia
Im with you that you can see mouse utopia in our society, however I only see that with the secular parts of society. The religious parts of our society seem to rage against the decline and stay healthy.
That brings me into the last point I want you to consider. This connects to the culture war-in that it's not left vs right or even college educated or not as you propose, I argue it's secularism vs religion (in the US's case Christianity. ALL the battles of the culture war are self constructed secular moralities clashing with the Christian interpretation of the objective morality. You kinda hinted at this in some of your vids tho.
Anyways the answer to alot of things is we must cling to God. The country needs more God not less. I refuse to elaborate. Also Christ is king
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mcburcke
We will not have to wait long to see the next great reset of human society. There is a global massive disaster cycle that is going to happen around 2040 (/-) caused by the collapse of the earth's magnetic field strength (currently underway) followed by a solar micro-nova blast. This is not tinfoil-hat lunacy, it is real, and the cycle has already started. Happens every 12, 000 years like clockwork. It has been 12, 000 years since the last disaster, so its due now. This disaster cycle has only been clearly recognized over the last 75 years or so, but it is going to happen soon, without any doubt. The good news, I guess, is that some small fraction of the human population has survived each of the disaster cycles. We're still here, and there will be a few left standing after the event of the 2040s. Not many, mind you (probably about 1-2% survivors) but they will get to start it all over again nonetheless. Be ready. It is not going to be pretty.
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We will not have to wait long to see the next great reset of human society. There is a global massive disaster cycle that is going to happen around 2040 (/-) caused by the collapse of the earth's magnetic field strength (currently underway) followed by a solar micro-nova blast. This is not tinfoil-hat lunacy, it is real, and the cycle has already started. Happens every 12, 000 years like clockwork. It has been 12, 000 years since the last disaster, so its due now. This disaster cycle has only been clearly recognized over the last 75 years or so, but it is going to happen soon, without any doubt. The good news, I guess, is that some small fraction of the human population has survived each of the disaster cycles. We're still here, and there will be a few left standing after the event of the 2040s. Not many, mind you (probably about 1-2% survivors) but they will get to start it all over again nonetheless. Be ready. It is not going to be pretty.
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666PANDEMONIUM
There is nothing inherently wrong with a population crash unless you view young people merely as wage slaves who are meant to support your government pension while you sit around in retirement. As long as we can produce enough goods and services to live comfortably there is nothing wrong with the population on Earth decreasing. Most people are worthless sacks of sht who don't contribute anything to civilization anyway. We could get all of the work that needs to be done completed with far less people than we currently have. The purpose of human life is not to grow the economy perpetually.
The economy exists for the people, not the other way around. The economy does not need to continue producing junk for the sake of growing infinitely. It should be put to work to make our lives better. A shrinking population only scares people who are not pulling their own weight in society because it means that the will not be able to mooch off of others.
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There is nothing inherently wrong with a population crash unless you view young people merely as wage slaves who are meant to support your government pension while you sit around in retirement. As long as we can produce enough goods and services to live comfortably there is nothing wrong with the population on Earth decreasing. Most people are worthless sacks of sht who don't contribute anything to civilization anyway. We could get all of the work that needs to be done completed with far less people than we currently have. The purpose of human life is not to grow the economy perpetually.
The economy exists for the people, not the other way around. The economy does not need to continue producing junk for the sake of growing infinitely. It should be put to work to make our lives better. A shrinking population only scares people who are not pulling their own weight in society because it means that the will not be able to mooch off of others.
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toronylako
I live in Hungary, where religion is a hotbed of corruption, and religion is one of the bases of reference for political power. in the last ten years, from a political point of view, Christianity was roughly forced, while the press was full of pedophile scandals and abuses. The country's youth emigrated from the country in response to the poor economic situation. The elderly form the voting base of the political elite, and there are too few young people because most of them have emigrated. Religion is used by the elderly as a weapon against the young, in my own case, for example, in the way that my own in-laws wanted to prevent my marriage because my wife was not religious, and with that they turned me against religion as well. They didn't even come to the wedding, and they died without being interested in our child either, because we didn't baptize him. With such an attitude, religion is the cause of the collapse, not a protective factor.
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I live in Hungary, where religion is a hotbed of corruption, and religion is one of the bases of reference for political power. in the last ten years, from a political point of view, Christianity was roughly forced, while the press was full of pedophile scandals and abuses. The country's youth emigrated from the country in response to the poor economic situation. The elderly form the voting base of the political elite, and there are too few young people because most of them have emigrated. Religion is used by the elderly as a weapon against the young, in my own case, for example, in the way that my own in-laws wanted to prevent my marriage because my wife was not religious, and with that they turned me against religion as well. They didn't even come to the wedding, and they died without being interested in our child either, because we didn't baptize him. With such an attitude, religion is the cause of the collapse, not a protective factor.
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whatifalthist
14: 44 I would submit that there's also a potential alternative too limited numbers and we might actually be close to that now because what Fostered trust and reciprocity in the small communities besides the obvious benefits of cooperation and inability to be completely independent was communal living and shared spaces where there wasn't much opportunities to keep secrets as conniving and conspiring against others takes place in secret behind closed doors and away from prying eyes and ears so it could theoretically be accomplished in a world with no privacy and we're almost there now but that is the relative equivalent to transparency and accountability and might be a reasonable although not really preferred substitute at least not for another generation or two at which point they're likely would no longer be a big need for it after the population collapse but no one really knows for sure what the future holds with 100% certainty
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14: 44 I would submit that there's also a potential alternative too limited numbers and we might actually be close to that now because what Fostered trust and reciprocity in the small communities besides the obvious benefits of cooperation and inability to be completely independent was communal living and shared spaces where there wasn't much opportunities to keep secrets as conniving and conspiring against others takes place in secret behind closed doors and away from prying eyes and ears so it could theoretically be accomplished in a world with no privacy and we're almost there now but that is the relative equivalent to transparency and accountability and might be a reasonable although not really preferred substitute at least not for another generation or two at which point they're likely would no longer be a big need for it after the population collapse but no one really knows for sure what the future holds with 100% certainty
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ANONAAAAAAAAA
Car dependency is one of the primary factors which are pushing urbanization IMO.
I was born in a car dependent rural area in Japan, and living there as a child who can't drive was, kinda miserable, since there were not much places I could go without cars.
The urban areas in Japan are pretty walkable but rural areas are not so much, it's not so rare to see elementally schoolers commuting to schools by walking in narrow sidewalks where lots of cars run by with high speeds.
Car dependency or city planning which are actively penalizing pedestrians are really harming people outsides of cars, notably children, and once such children move to urban areas, I suspect many of them don't want to go back, at least, this is the case for me.
I just want walk to grocery stores on the daily basis as an exercise and for refreshing, however this is a luxury only city dwellers are allowed to have.
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Car dependency is one of the primary factors which are pushing urbanization IMO.
I was born in a car dependent rural area in Japan, and living there as a child who can't drive was, kinda miserable, since there were not much places I could go without cars.
The urban areas in Japan are pretty walkable but rural areas are not so much, it's not so rare to see elementally schoolers commuting to schools by walking in narrow sidewalks where lots of cars run by with high speeds.
Car dependency or city planning which are actively penalizing pedestrians are really harming people outsides of cars, notably children, and once such children move to urban areas, I suspect many of them don't want to go back, at least, this is the case for me.
I just want walk to grocery stores on the daily basis as an exercise and for refreshing, however this is a luxury only city dwellers are allowed to have.
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1994khalid24
tbh an account like HoeMath is about one of the worst one could listen to as far as feminist movements go. He's automatically gonna give a manosphere style redpill slant to whatever these movements are saying, which. agree or disagree with these movements, taking someone with a bias view on the issue is giving an inaccurate perception. Now, as for the 4B movement in particular, I disagree with their methods though understand their concerns, the worry with these policies and pushes is that it could help justify and encourage gender discrimination and can lead to heavily patriarchal societies that would take women's rights back decades. Now, I disagree with the 4Bs in that their methodology will only create radicalization and worsen gender relations as a whole, but also ignoring their concerns is exactly how these movements get emboldened to begin with.
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tbh an account like HoeMath is about one of the worst one could listen to as far as feminist movements go. He's automatically gonna give a manosphere style redpill slant to whatever these movements are saying, which. agree or disagree with these movements, taking someone with a bias view on the issue is giving an inaccurate perception. Now, as for the 4B movement in particular, I disagree with their methods though understand their concerns, the worry with these policies and pushes is that it could help justify and encourage gender discrimination and can lead to heavily patriarchal societies that would take women's rights back decades. Now, I disagree with the 4Bs in that their methodology will only create radicalization and worsen gender relations as a whole, but also ignoring their concerns is exactly how these movements get emboldened to begin with.
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Teddy3inDC
Only thing that I've noticed so far is that you're considering America and other locations where nations lie, as homogenous. As in America, I don't think all demographics are failing and not producing.
For instance, the black population in the USA is still having children, and the previous mass deaths of black americans is primarily attributed to government sponsored abortion clinics. That is changing and our population is swiftly moving in the birthing direction, while others are waning.
I don't think that less humans worldwide is a bad thing either. It is a matter of perspective.
The global elites want less people and they have been hard at work ensuring it, so none of this should be a surprise.
This does mean that in 200 years the population will look different, and from those of my ilk, it is decidedly less white.
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Only thing that I've noticed so far is that you're considering America and other locations where nations lie, as homogenous. As in America, I don't think all demographics are failing and not producing.
For instance, the black population in the USA is still having children, and the previous mass deaths of black americans is primarily attributed to government sponsored abortion clinics. That is changing and our population is swiftly moving in the birthing direction, while others are waning.
I don't think that less humans worldwide is a bad thing either. It is a matter of perspective.
The global elites want less people and they have been hard at work ensuring it, so none of this should be a surprise.
This does mean that in 200 years the population will look different, and from those of my ilk, it is decidedly less white.
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therealkillerb7643
This is a fascinating analysis. However, some considerations; (1) this depends upon assuming the truth of environmental determinism, (2) it assumes that the social characteristics of rats can accurately model humans (2) it assumes that religion, ideas, philosophies, etc. are merely the rationalizations of environmental imperatives. In the sociology of religion, this approach was known as Functionalism that religion merely functions to serve some often hidden environmental needs of the culture. Personally, I think people are more complex than rats, that the environment, though a powerful force, is not the only factor and that ideas in general, but religion in particular has a far greater effect on determining values, which in turn, affects how limited resources are used. Having said that, good stuff and appreciated.
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This is a fascinating analysis. However, some considerations; (1) this depends upon assuming the truth of environmental determinism, (2) it assumes that the social characteristics of rats can accurately model humans (2) it assumes that religion, ideas, philosophies, etc. are merely the rationalizations of environmental imperatives. In the sociology of religion, this approach was known as Functionalism that religion merely functions to serve some often hidden environmental needs of the culture. Personally, I think people are more complex than rats, that the environment, though a powerful force, is not the only factor and that ideas in general, but religion in particular has a far greater effect on determining values, which in turn, affects how limited resources are used. Having said that, good stuff and appreciated.
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whatifalthist
I currently live in a rural area and I grew up in a city. Most of the people in this rural area, not all but most of them have children but a lot of those children leave for the cities so this area has a declining population. One thing I've noticed though is even though I don't know my neighbors sadly, the people in this rural are by and large are more friendly and personable than people in cities. Strangers easily strike up random conversations, people are more willing to help others, etc. In cities i've been in, everyone ignores everyone and keeps to themselves. i'm not surprised city people have less kids when most younger people are just constantly working and keeping to themselves. Also getting rid of pets and pet ownership would probably be the best thing to happen to our world in my opinion.
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I currently live in a rural area and I grew up in a city. Most of the people in this rural area, not all but most of them have children but a lot of those children leave for the cities so this area has a declining population. One thing I've noticed though is even though I don't know my neighbors sadly, the people in this rural are by and large are more friendly and personable than people in cities. Strangers easily strike up random conversations, people are more willing to help others, etc. In cities i've been in, everyone ignores everyone and keeps to themselves. i'm not surprised city people have less kids when most younger people are just constantly working and keeping to themselves. Also getting rid of pets and pet ownership would probably be the best thing to happen to our world in my opinion.
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steelerfaninperu
Saying things like you aren't convinced of climate change just make me want to stop coming back. Like, it's one thing to discuss to what degree it'll impact things, but it's another to just not outright say it is real. History is objective, and if you believe the books you read then why can't you believe hard data that shows that there's more CO2 and a rising global temperature and it's increasing in direct proportion to human activity The climate has changed in our lifetime way beyond what's normal, historically speaking. It's kind of insane.
I actually think that it'll be a major driver of the very population collapse you're talking about. It's going to force more migrations and stress global economics. That exacerbates the whole not enough quality of living for people to care problem.
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Saying things like you aren't convinced of climate change just make me want to stop coming back. Like, it's one thing to discuss to what degree it'll impact things, but it's another to just not outright say it is real. History is objective, and if you believe the books you read then why can't you believe hard data that shows that there's more CO2 and a rising global temperature and it's increasing in direct proportion to human activity The climate has changed in our lifetime way beyond what's normal, historically speaking. It's kind of insane.
I actually think that it'll be a major driver of the very population collapse you're talking about. It's going to force more migrations and stress global economics. That exacerbates the whole not enough quality of living for people to care problem.
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whatifalthist
1: 46 if you go back about 60, 000 years the global population went from hundreds of thousands or possibly even Millions down to as few as a few thousand individuals as we almost went extinct as well as erased all of the genetic diversity that accumulated up until that point which is why I mentioned regressive rather than Progressive in my previous comment because the way we conquered the world in less than 50, 000 years after first walking out of Africa wasn't through Warfare and competition but rather cooperation which is our claim to fame and our key to success which we abandoned about 10000 years ago with the rise of agriculture and civilization and we've been going backwards ever since
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1: 46 if you go back about 60, 000 years the global population went from hundreds of thousands or possibly even Millions down to as few as a few thousand individuals as we almost went extinct as well as erased all of the genetic diversity that accumulated up until that point which is why I mentioned regressive rather than Progressive in my previous comment because the way we conquered the world in less than 50, 000 years after first walking out of Africa wasn't through Warfare and competition but rather cooperation which is our claim to fame and our key to success which we abandoned about 10000 years ago with the rise of agriculture and civilization and we've been going backwards ever since
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michaeldavid6832
You don't seem to understand modern war. Past wars were about scarcity and population growth. Current wars are all banker's wars -- optional wars of choice that are based largely on denying resources to others. The US didn't need to start or participate in any war except those on its borders. Those we joined were all based on false flags, lies, and money.
WWI and WWII were unambiguously banker's wars. When money became the prime medium of exchange, wars couldn't be fought without bankers backing them with loans.
We live in a world post global banking. Wars aren't wars unless they're paid for -- either in the fomenting or the executing.
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You don't seem to understand modern war. Past wars were about scarcity and population growth. Current wars are all banker's wars -- optional wars of choice that are based largely on denying resources to others. The US didn't need to start or participate in any war except those on its borders. Those we joined were all based on false flags, lies, and money.
WWI and WWII were unambiguously banker's wars. When money became the prime medium of exchange, wars couldn't be fought without bankers backing them with loans.
We live in a world post global banking. Wars aren't wars unless they're paid for -- either in the fomenting or the executing.
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mattsreptileroom
My good man, you neglect to reiterate the intentionality of this population collapse. Or at the very least the willful negligence. We are being poisoned, en masse, through a whole host of different mechanisms, be it plastics, pesticides and food, medications and vaccines or the social and psychological aspects you are focusing on.
I love this video, but the mechanisms and means of our destruction and resurrection through technology is unprescidented in recorded history.
We are being led off a cliff, on purpose, to usher in Aldous huxley's a brave new world It's f up and insane but it's 100% what's happening
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My good man, you neglect to reiterate the intentionality of this population collapse. Or at the very least the willful negligence. We are being poisoned, en masse, through a whole host of different mechanisms, be it plastics, pesticides and food, medications and vaccines or the social and psychological aspects you are focusing on.
I love this video, but the mechanisms and means of our destruction and resurrection through technology is unprescidented in recorded history.
We are being led off a cliff, on purpose, to usher in Aldous huxley's a brave new world It's f up and insane but it's 100% what's happening
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