Thunderbolts POST-CREDIT Scene BROKE Every MCU Rule
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Date: 2025-05-10
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BossMan_.
No one is mentioning this so I think I will. I don't think that is the Fantastic Four on that ship. Or at the very least, not the group we are about to see in a few months, though I doubt they would have 2 different versions of the fantastic four.
Anyways, in the First Steps trailers, we see different shots of the ship they use to go into space. We see a very slim ship with three legs to stand on when landed. We see it take off in one shot and floating in space in another. Both times it looks the same.
This is NOT the same ship we see in the post credit scene. That ship, while it is the same slim design, it has four legs to stand on instead of just three. Why Idk. Could be an error, but I doubt that. I think its possible that ship is from a different Fantastic Four. It could be how Doom arrives like suggested in the video, or maybe we see someone else. But why would the ship change between First Steps universe and main MCU universe
I could be, and probably am, completely wrong. But I don't recall Marvel making mistakes to small details like this especially about a movie coming in three months. I also don't think they would just spoil their own movie like that. Any thoughts or other details that relate to this
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No one is mentioning this so I think I will. I don't think that is the Fantastic Four on that ship. Or at the very least, not the group we are about to see in a few months, though I doubt they would have 2 different versions of the fantastic four.
Anyways, in the First Steps trailers, we see different shots of the ship they use to go into space. We see a very slim ship with three legs to stand on when landed. We see it take off in one shot and floating in space in another. Both times it looks the same.
This is NOT the same ship we see in the post credit scene. That ship, while it is the same slim design, it has four legs to stand on instead of just three. Why Idk. Could be an error, but I doubt that. I think its possible that ship is from a different Fantastic Four. It could be how Doom arrives like suggested in the video, or maybe we see someone else. But why would the ship change between First Steps universe and main MCU universe
I could be, and probably am, completely wrong. But I don't recall Marvel making mistakes to small details like this especially about a movie coming in three months. I also don't think they would just spoil their own movie like that. Any thoughts or other details that relate to this
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couriersix2443
Bucky's line to Walker about his wife not even wanting anything to do with him (which led to her having taken full custody their child & leaving him) was insanely brutal. Not in the brutally honest kind of way either. Just straight up like kicking someone while they're already down. Idk if he just held higher expectations for Walker as a hero (or felt like he was tough enough to handle it, so it'd hopefully be more motivational for him rather than incite bitterness/hopelessness. but he even says it himself: he's been in the same position as Walker & the rest of the group before. On top of just being a man out of time in general, which honestly has to take more of a toll than either he or Steve have ever let on. Though I suppose that's part of why Steve made the decision to live out a fulfilling life with Peggy after he returned the Infinity Stones & Mjolnir.
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Bucky's line to Walker about his wife not even wanting anything to do with him (which led to her having taken full custody their child & leaving him) was insanely brutal. Not in the brutally honest kind of way either. Just straight up like kicking someone while they're already down. Idk if he just held higher expectations for Walker as a hero (or felt like he was tough enough to handle it, so it'd hopefully be more motivational for him rather than incite bitterness/hopelessness. but he even says it himself: he's been in the same position as Walker & the rest of the group before. On top of just being a man out of time in general, which honestly has to take more of a toll than either he or Steve have ever let on. Though I suppose that's part of why Steve made the decision to live out a fulfilling life with Peggy after he returned the Infinity Stones & Mjolnir.
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Nobodykares17
What if they arent spoilinh the ending of the movie but the beginning of it.
The spaceship arrives and its only reed no one else with him, reed tells them that galactus destroyed the planet and he managed to escape and he convinces them to somehow let him travel back in time before the disaster happened.
Then through the entire movie we see reed being worried about galactus and thats why he is studying multiverse travel or something to try and beat galactus. Now here reed doesnt want to tell others about whats going to happen so they dont worry. after the galactus attack happens victor von doom gets really mad when he finds out reed knew about the threat and didnt tell him so he could help
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What if they arent spoilinh the ending of the movie but the beginning of it.
The spaceship arrives and its only reed no one else with him, reed tells them that galactus destroyed the planet and he managed to escape and he convinces them to somehow let him travel back in time before the disaster happened.
Then through the entire movie we see reed being worried about galactus and thats why he is studying multiverse travel or something to try and beat galactus. Now here reed doesnt want to tell others about whats going to happen so they dont worry. after the galactus attack happens victor von doom gets really mad when he finds out reed knew about the threat and didnt tell him so he could help
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mattyboyb523
I’m Looking for to the full breakdown as I liked the movie but was disappointed with the lack of character development which could’ve been done with an additional 10 minutes of footage. It’s all we needed to complete to story and I do kind of agree with the criticism of Val but not with the actress it’s with the character. She’s a poorly written character going back a couple movies now and Marvel should’ve realized it. Classic situation where they cram a big name actor into a character and try to make it into something it’s not. Idk, maybe I better go see this movie again because o wasn’t as impressed as everyone seems to be
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I’m Looking for to the full breakdown as I liked the movie but was disappointed with the lack of character development which could’ve been done with an additional 10 minutes of footage. It’s all we needed to complete to story and I do kind of agree with the criticism of Val but not with the actress it’s with the character. She’s a poorly written character going back a couple movies now and Marvel should’ve realized it. Classic situation where they cram a big name actor into a character and try to make it into something it’s not. Idk, maybe I better go see this movie again because o wasn’t as impressed as everyone seems to be
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het2shah
Also most probably the fantastic4 had to go into another dimension, may be due to incursion or just a dimensional travel, to chase doom, to help or warn earth 616, something to guard their son franklin richards. Or a few members crashed into our dimension while being some accident in negative zone while finding ultimate nullifier
As reed invented dimensional travel very early into movie( reason to their power)
Alspo in new avengers initial chapters, during incursions one earth was blown by galactus thanks to his herald, saving both universes n feeding galactus hunger, that could be a massive plot in the movie connecting everything so far
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Also most probably the fantastic4 had to go into another dimension, may be due to incursion or just a dimensional travel, to chase doom, to help or warn earth 616, something to guard their son franklin richards. Or a few members crashed into our dimension while being some accident in negative zone while finding ultimate nullifier
As reed invented dimensional travel very early into movie( reason to their power)
Alspo in new avengers initial chapters, during incursions one earth was blown by galactus thanks to his herald, saving both universes n feeding galactus hunger, that could be a massive plot in the movie connecting everything so far
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joselorenzo1485
Man I still think that the secret villain in doomsday will be galactus it's weird that he is only going to be introduced and show only on one movie and all of a sudden the fantastic four are aware of doom being evil and all that stuff I still think Galactus will find a way to get himself in the mcu universe and that's where the fantastic four and Dr. Doom are in because they have face galactus before and they know what he is capable of in their world and doom probably wants a power that can rivals or outmatch and erased Galactus from existence like loki powers, but that's just my theory
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Man I still think that the secret villain in doomsday will be galactus it's weird that he is only going to be introduced and show only on one movie and all of a sudden the fantastic four are aware of doom being evil and all that stuff I still think Galactus will find a way to get himself in the mcu universe and that's where the fantastic four and Dr. Doom are in because they have face galactus before and they know what he is capable of in their world and doom probably wants a power that can rivals or outmatch and erased Galactus from existence like loki powers, but that's just my theory
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RoseCameron-h3p
I'm a little confused If Sam's issue with the new avengers group is that they follow the govt's orders then how is that any different to how he followed the army's orders (from the govt) for all those years that he was in the army, and then when he became cap America did he not think that there'd be people above him giving him orders Did he think the title gave him free reign Or is the issue that there's another group doing super stuff and it's not a group that he's leader of and that he got to pick and choose, and therefore he can't monopolise the whole super people group thing
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I'm a little confused If Sam's issue with the new avengers group is that they follow the govt's orders then how is that any different to how he followed the army's orders (from the govt) for all those years that he was in the army, and then when he became cap America did he not think that there'd be people above him giving him orders Did he think the title gave him free reign Or is the issue that there's another group doing super stuff and it's not a group that he's leader of and that he got to pick and choose, and therefore he can't monopolise the whole super people group thing
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1138prometheus
Its clearly the Comic-Con people interacting with these weak brained ego maniac Hollywood people that have completely ruined this genre. Why else would they imagine it would be profitable to fill a movie with scrub third level benchwarmer superheroes that only raise interest at Comic-Con The rest of us can only hope that after we get three underperformers in a row this summer they will rest the whole genre and then a few years from now hand it over to people who don't need to go to Comic-Con and have their egos stroked. Maybe then we'll get good superhero movies again.
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Its clearly the Comic-Con people interacting with these weak brained ego maniac Hollywood people that have completely ruined this genre. Why else would they imagine it would be profitable to fill a movie with scrub third level benchwarmer superheroes that only raise interest at Comic-Con The rest of us can only hope that after we get three underperformers in a row this summer they will rest the whole genre and then a few years from now hand it over to people who don't need to go to Comic-Con and have their egos stroked. Maybe then we'll get good superhero movies again.
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BlahDepartment
The F4 ship in the trailer has 3 wings, and the post credits one has 4 wings, also the trailer one has no F4 branding which might mean it's the prototype one in which F4 crew first went to space without powers and that destroying of earth was the other earth where they got their galactic powers and then became F4 and then branded everything, resulting in this post credit ship, however that still spoils the F4 movie as you've mentioned, but marvel will take 1. 5 secs to deceive the audience, so idk what's going on lol
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The F4 ship in the trailer has 3 wings, and the post credits one has 4 wings, also the trailer one has no F4 branding which might mean it's the prototype one in which F4 crew first went to space without powers and that destroying of earth was the other earth where they got their galactic powers and then became F4 and then branded everything, resulting in this post credit ship, however that still spoils the F4 movie as you've mentioned, but marvel will take 1. 5 secs to deceive the audience, so idk what's going on lol
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LetsGoTheRoShow
Title: Thunderbolts Post Credit Scene Broke Every MCU rule.
Describes entire movie and post credit scene. Then says:
So in a lot of ways the thunderbolts broke every rule in the MCU
How! What rules! You can’t just repeat the title at the end and act like it explains anything!
We’ve had post credit scenes that were directed by different directors than the film, that were literal scenes from the next film, that seemingly spoiled stuff. Like what did this do different than other post credit scenes
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Title: Thunderbolts Post Credit Scene Broke Every MCU rule.
Describes entire movie and post credit scene. Then says:
So in a lot of ways the thunderbolts broke every rule in the MCU
How! What rules! You can’t just repeat the title at the end and act like it explains anything!
We’ve had post credit scenes that were directed by different directors than the film, that were literal scenes from the next film, that seemingly spoiled stuff. Like what did this do different than other post credit scenes
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eyezuh_
I think there's a nice metatextual thing going on with the lady in the grocery store. Because she is sort of us. Like the people in universe, they've been burned, manipulated, and been shown atrocity after atrocity (or in our case, mediocre movies. Of course they're skeptical. They just got shown this new team they didn't even know existed and now they're supposed to be the avengers Obviously they don't have faith in it.
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I think there's a nice metatextual thing going on with the lady in the grocery store. Because she is sort of us. Like the people in universe, they've been burned, manipulated, and been shown atrocity after atrocity (or in our case, mediocre movies. Of course they're skeptical. They just got shown this new team they didn't even know existed and now they're supposed to be the avengers Obviously they don't have faith in it.
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canadian_lad
I think the dynamic between Yelena and Bucky is that Yelena is the leader, and Bucky is the advisor. We've seen time and time again that Yelena has the drive and capacity to become a good leader but she's still inexperienced in that part. Out of all of them Bucky is the only one who worked with a proper team under Steve Rogers nonetheless, so he fills in Yelena's shortcomings for now.
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I think the dynamic between Yelena and Bucky is that Yelena is the leader, and Bucky is the advisor. We've seen time and time again that Yelena has the drive and capacity to become a good leader but she's still inexperienced in that part. Out of all of them Bucky is the only one who worked with a proper team under Steve Rogers nonetheless, so he fills in Yelena's shortcomings for now.
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steveglover6411
I still contend that Deadpool & Wolverine should not be confused for Deadpool 3 per se. The real third movie, should they take this route, ought to include his regular squad of Deadpool universe characters and involve them in a real sense and not just a few short scenes. I might be alone in thinking this, but I also think it should be considered.
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I still contend that Deadpool & Wolverine should not be confused for Deadpool 3 per se. The real third movie, should they take this route, ought to include his regular squad of Deadpool universe characters and involve them in a real sense and not just a few short scenes. I might be alone in thinking this, but I also think it should be considered.
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ForburyLion
I don’t think this fits and I don’t think this is what happens, but what if the Fantastic 4 got their powers after their ship went though a multidimensional rift. That would mean this end credit was the start of the F4 movie and and not the end. Like I said, it doesn’t fit in with what we know but until we see the film we don’t actually know.
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I don’t think this fits and I don’t think this is what happens, but what if the Fantastic 4 got their powers after their ship went though a multidimensional rift. That would mean this end credit was the start of the F4 movie and and not the end. Like I said, it doesn’t fit in with what we know but until we see the film we don’t actually know.
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canadian_lad
I, too, do have some problems with this, mainly Bucky not being invested in the main Bob storyline and just acting as a buffer, but I still enjoyed it very much. Defo better than DPnW. But Taskmaster should have died better, mainly because, just as Yelena said, she had a hard life. A good death is the least a person deserves.
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I, too, do have some problems with this, mainly Bucky not being invested in the main Bob storyline and just acting as a buffer, but I still enjoyed it very much. Defo better than DPnW. But Taskmaster should have died better, mainly because, just as Yelena said, she had a hard life. A good death is the least a person deserves.
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steveglover6411
This really was one of the greatest MCU movies to date.
The cloak and dagger is almost as good as the new season of Andor which is an expertly crafted spy thriller in three distinct parts.
The emotionality is off the charts and I loved it.
I had doubts about calling them the New Avengers but now I get it.
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This really was one of the greatest MCU movies to date.
The cloak and dagger is almost as good as the new season of Andor which is an expertly crafted spy thriller in three distinct parts.
The emotionality is off the charts and I loved it.
I had doubts about calling them the New Avengers but now I get it.
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CrooklynBrawl3r
From the clips I've seen from the movie so far, it looks awesome. It has a very dark color scheme to it. I feel like it makes the vibe of dark times are here for our heros and they need to find a way to save us and themselves. I love visual/mental plays like this nice move from the director.
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From the clips I've seen from the movie so far, it looks awesome. It has a very dark color scheme to it. I feel like it makes the vibe of dark times are here for our heros and they need to find a way to save us and themselves. I love visual/mental plays like this nice move from the director.
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rtz4806
i loved the look of US agents shield, the ware and tare on it gives it a ton of character compared to the always prestine cap shield (and yes i get that its proto adamantium and thats why its presitine) i just mean the scratches and the like give it a more used look and the like
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i loved the look of US agents shield, the ware and tare on it gives it a ton of character compared to the always prestine cap shield (and yes i get that its proto adamantium and thats why its presitine) i just mean the scratches and the like give it a more used look and the like
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Xolarflare
10: 40 I mean they basically did the same for ant man and the wasp. The post credit scene showed Scott getting stuck in the quantum realm and spoiled how Scott would get to the future and bring all the other avengers to the past with their eventual time travel
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10: 40 I mean they basically did the same for ant man and the wasp. The post credit scene showed Scott getting stuck in the quantum realm and spoiled how Scott would get to the future and bring all the other avengers to the past with their eventual time travel
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sinteleon
On hindsight, I do NOT think the F4 ship is the first ship warping in. It wouldn't be a space crisis if it was the first after all. We might be seeing a full refugee crisis from multiple universes, with the F4 being just the latest ship entering the field.
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On hindsight, I do NOT think the F4 ship is the first ship warping in. It wouldn't be a space crisis if it was the first after all. We might be seeing a full refugee crisis from multiple universes, with the F4 being just the latest ship entering the field.
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