LGR - Using an IBM Model M on a Smartphone
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Date: 2022-04-14
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Jenny
What a great idea! I also love those old IBM keyboards. as someone who learnt typing on my grandmother's electric typewriter at age 10 back in the 1980s and was my high school representative for the Olympia Typing Contest I type 100wpm on a desktop computer or electric typewriter; only maybe half that speed on a laptop without an attached keyboard, or on my Nokia; maybe 10 wpm on an ipad; and I CAN'T TYPE AT ALL ON A TOUCH-SCREEN PHONE. Which is why I still stick with an All-In-One desktop at home with a Oker Marvo Touch Wisdom gaming keyboard and dragon mouse at home (for Ph. D. editing and emails, no games. same like that IBM, with the same feel and sound, but updated with glowing mouse and LED lights, and cost only 500 Thai baht for keyboard and mouse set and easy to buy here at any big computer shop. (Some of the 24-hour Internet cafes here have them. that's how I found out about gaming keyboards)
When I go to the university, I use whatever student's laptop (they usually have a mouse) and carry my keyboard with me to use. (I hadn't known before that big size keyboards could be used with laptops, until I saw them being used in the computer lab at the international school I worked at in Myanmar in this manner) And a normal Nokia phone for calls and texts is the only phone I use! To the great chagrin of the Chinese and Thai students here who complain they have to pay 15 satang for a call or 1. 50b for a text to get in touch with me when I'm not on my computer (and yet will gladly pay 7b for a bottle of drinking water when they could get four times that amount for 1b from a water machine, or order a 75b coffee in a cafe for the privilege of using their own laptop for a couple of hours there with WiFi, when they could go to a normal internet cafe for only 10b an hour and then buy a normal coffee for 10-14b and a snack for 5b)
I had an LG A T&T phone with a slide-out keyboard that I bought in the USA in 2010 the only year I was back there. The only cellphone I could find then that would work in my area in the Appalachian mountains in Georgia and make international calls and work everywhere in the USA. It had a great camera and video and allowed me to use Yahoo mail at low cost, but normal Internet was $12 for 30 minutes, and signal for calls was often insufficient. Pitiful compared to the standards for cellphones in Sri Lanka, Malaysia, and Thailand even then. It was a locked phone, and that was before there was any publicity about locked SIMs, so I was able to use it only as a camera, video maker, and recorder after I left the USA. It got stolen in 2014 in Thailand. Phones with keyboards were out of fashion then, so I didn't try to get another advanced phone for another few years.
Then, last year in Bangkok, I found a 4G Android phone with a keyboard made by the Thailand company TrueMove, also with a locked SIM, that had a metal keyboard. So I bought that and used it for a few months. then, sadly, it fell on the green painted cement floor on my place and the screen got damaged and got covered with white lines. So that was the end of that experiment! Got totally damaged in a light fall that would have never heard any of my four Nokias, or that previous LG phone. Was also disappointed with how short a time the battery lasted, as compared to my previous phone, and with how difficult it was to use the SD card to save and copy large numbers of photos. And with the inconsistency of the memory as to which photos, videos, and recordings it would display, as the Android worked different than Windows or Mac OS in this regard. And it was highly interrupting and distracting, could not finish my daily activities. So went back to just my desktop computer and my Nokia!
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What a great idea! I also love those old IBM keyboards. as someone who learnt typing on my grandmother's electric typewriter at age 10 back in the 1980s and was my high school representative for the Olympia Typing Contest I type 100wpm on a desktop computer or electric typewriter; only maybe half that speed on a laptop without an attached keyboard, or on my Nokia; maybe 10 wpm on an ipad; and I CAN'T TYPE AT ALL ON A TOUCH-SCREEN PHONE. Which is why I still stick with an All-In-One desktop at home with a Oker Marvo Touch Wisdom gaming keyboard and dragon mouse at home (for Ph. D. editing and emails, no games. same like that IBM, with the same feel and sound, but updated with glowing mouse and LED lights, and cost only 500 Thai baht for keyboard and mouse set and easy to buy here at any big computer shop. (Some of the 24-hour Internet cafes here have them. that's how I found out about gaming keyboards)
When I go to the university, I use whatever student's laptop (they usually have a mouse) and carry my keyboard with me to use. (I hadn't known before that big size keyboards could be used with laptops, until I saw them being used in the computer lab at the international school I worked at in Myanmar in this manner) And a normal Nokia phone for calls and texts is the only phone I use! To the great chagrin of the Chinese and Thai students here who complain they have to pay 15 satang for a call or 1. 50b for a text to get in touch with me when I'm not on my computer (and yet will gladly pay 7b for a bottle of drinking water when they could get four times that amount for 1b from a water machine, or order a 75b coffee in a cafe for the privilege of using their own laptop for a couple of hours there with WiFi, when they could go to a normal internet cafe for only 10b an hour and then buy a normal coffee for 10-14b and a snack for 5b)
I had an LG A T&T phone with a slide-out keyboard that I bought in the USA in 2010 the only year I was back there. The only cellphone I could find then that would work in my area in the Appalachian mountains in Georgia and make international calls and work everywhere in the USA. It had a great camera and video and allowed me to use Yahoo mail at low cost, but normal Internet was $12 for 30 minutes, and signal for calls was often insufficient. Pitiful compared to the standards for cellphones in Sri Lanka, Malaysia, and Thailand even then. It was a locked phone, and that was before there was any publicity about locked SIMs, so I was able to use it only as a camera, video maker, and recorder after I left the USA. It got stolen in 2014 in Thailand. Phones with keyboards were out of fashion then, so I didn't try to get another advanced phone for another few years.
Then, last year in Bangkok, I found a 4G Android phone with a keyboard made by the Thailand company TrueMove, also with a locked SIM, that had a metal keyboard. So I bought that and used it for a few months. then, sadly, it fell on the green painted cement floor on my place and the screen got damaged and got covered with white lines. So that was the end of that experiment! Got totally damaged in a light fall that would have never heard any of my four Nokias, or that previous LG phone. Was also disappointed with how short a time the battery lasted, as compared to my previous phone, and with how difficult it was to use the SD card to save and copy large numbers of photos. And with the inconsistency of the memory as to which photos, videos, and recordings it would display, as the Android worked different than Windows or Mac OS in this regard. And it was highly interrupting and distracting, could not finish my daily activities. So went back to just my desktop computer and my Nokia!
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Loenne555
Haha, Clint you truly are the brother at heart. I did exactly this just yesterday, but not with an IBM Keyboad, but with an old Cherry ML 4700 PS/2 Numpad. I do the taxes for my friends, and my prefered taxes app runs on Android these days, so I conveniently use this decades old numpad to hack all the numbers into my Galaxy Tab S2. Works like a charm, and also doesn-t consume too much energy. I complete my mini tax workstation using a Logitech K480 Bluetooth keyboard, which also works as a tablet stand, and makes this a perfectly portable workstation without the hassle of heavy notebook power supplies, cable connections and bulky notebook carrying cases. thanks for your (as usual) great and very interesting video!
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Haha, Clint you truly are the brother at heart. I did exactly this just yesterday, but not with an IBM Keyboad, but with an old Cherry ML 4700 PS/2 Numpad. I do the taxes for my friends, and my prefered taxes app runs on Android these days, so I conveniently use this decades old numpad to hack all the numbers into my Galaxy Tab S2. Works like a charm, and also doesn-t consume too much energy. I complete my mini tax workstation using a Logitech K480 Bluetooth keyboard, which also works as a tablet stand, and makes this a perfectly portable workstation without the hassle of heavy notebook power supplies, cable connections and bulky notebook carrying cases. thanks for your (as usual) great and very interesting video!
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Pfitz
He makes jokes about the laptop but honestly keyboards plus phones are gonna be standard for just about everything in the tech field soon. I'm an electronics systems technician and we work with programmable logic controllers all the time to write and alter code and processes. If we had the ability to run all of our software through our phone it would make things a lot easier since just about everyone carries a phone at all times. Throwing a keyboard in your toolbox would be second nature where as carrying around a laptop in a work environment like that isn't something techs generally do unless absolutely necessary.
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He makes jokes about the laptop but honestly keyboards plus phones are gonna be standard for just about everything in the tech field soon. I'm an electronics systems technician and we work with programmable logic controllers all the time to write and alter code and processes. If we had the ability to run all of our software through our phone it would make things a lot easier since just about everyone carries a phone at all times. Throwing a keyboard in your toolbox would be second nature where as carrying around a laptop in a work environment like that isn't something techs generally do unless absolutely necessary.
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baylinkdashyt
There's a video floating around elsewhere on YT where someone puts a BT adapter and cell battery -inside the model M-.
And I spent most of the first half of this video watching you hovering that 3 pound keyboard above that 3 ounce phone and waiting for you to drop it.
BTW: You know what the 'M' stands for?
Right! -Murder weapon-.
Someone breaks into your office, you just pick up the keyboard and whack em in the head with it. Problem solved.
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There's a video floating around elsewhere on YT where someone puts a BT adapter and cell battery -inside the model M-.
And I spent most of the first half of this video watching you hovering that 3 pound keyboard above that 3 ounce phone and waiting for you to drop it.
BTW: You know what the 'M' stands for?
Right! -Murder weapon-.
Someone breaks into your office, you just pick up the keyboard and whack em in the head with it. Problem solved.
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strangersound
Call me weird, but all that clicking is highly annoying. I can understand the desire for nice tactile response, but all that racket is ear tweaking torture. I prefer a nice quiet keyboard. I hate to plug Dell, since I hate that company more than any other, but they made nice quiet keys models I enjoyed. I know, it's blasphemy, but this audio engineer spent too many years listening to tape transports and developed an aversion to that type of racket. :)
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Call me weird, but all that clicking is highly annoying. I can understand the desire for nice tactile response, but all that racket is ear tweaking torture. I prefer a nice quiet keyboard. I hate to plug Dell, since I hate that company more than any other, but they made nice quiet keys models I enjoyed. I know, it's blasphemy, but this audio engineer spent too many years listening to tape transports and developed an aversion to that type of racket. :)
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FULL
LGR, can you help me out? I'm trying to find the reasonable market value of a brand new, never used model M 1392595, born in 1995 with the rj45 connector. In my research I can find one in used condition for 185 USD plus shipping. I would assume a new un-used one would go for more but I don't know if the above price is reasonable or not to begin with. Thank you.
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LGR, can you help me out? I'm trying to find the reasonable market value of a brand new, never used model M 1392595, born in 1995 with the rj45 connector. In my research I can find one in used condition for 185 USD plus shipping. I would assume a new un-used one would go for more but I don't know if the above price is reasonable or not to begin with. Thank you.
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Andrew
I had no idea the Alt-Tab keyboard shortcut worked in Android.
The chargeable cable on the keyboard is pretty cool, but if I remember correctly AT and keyboard PS/2 were electronically the same. So doing something like that in the transition timeframe was probably smart.
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I had no idea the Alt-Tab keyboard shortcut worked in Android.
The chargeable cable on the keyboard is pretty cool, but if I remember correctly AT and keyboard PS/2 were electronically the same. So doing something like that in the transition timeframe was probably smart.
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DoctorX17
I love my Model M, but I think I'm gonna leave it on my desktop.
I also don't feel like shutting it down so I can safely unplug it to try this XD But I assume it'll work, if I can find my PS/2 to USB adapter again. I lost it after going to a new machine with PS/2
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I love my Model M, but I think I'm gonna leave it on my desktop.
I also don't feel like shutting it down so I can safely unplug it to try this XD But I assume it'll work, if I can find my PS/2 to USB adapter again. I lost it after going to a new machine with PS/2
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The
Wrong on that! A lot more than three people have tried it. And I beat you to it years ago. But anyhow, nice video as always, and stop plugging unicomp because wasd is where it's at. Unicomp just puts out hollow-sounding keyboards that don't actually click; they just clunk.
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Wrong on that! A lot more than three people have tried it. And I beat you to it years ago. But anyhow, nice video as always, and stop plugging unicomp because wasd is where it's at. Unicomp just puts out hollow-sounding keyboards that don't actually click; they just clunk.
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Chozo
I wonder just how much more of a scientific monstrosity this type of setup would look like with a Model F Keyboard!
An AT (or XT) to PS/2 adapter
A PS/2 to USB Adapter
A USB to Micro-USB Adapter
I must see this happen! -
-typed on my 1993 IBM Model M: 3
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I wonder just how much more of a scientific monstrosity this type of setup would look like with a Model F Keyboard!
An AT (or XT) to PS/2 adapter
A PS/2 to USB Adapter
A USB to Micro-USB Adapter
I must see this happen! -
-typed on my 1993 IBM Model M: 3
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