Why coffee drinkers live longer
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The antioxidant hypothesis has been a favorite of marketing people for a couple of decades, but there really isn t, that I have seen, much good evidence that antioxidant consumption really reduces disease or promotes health or longevity. Yes, foods that are higher in antioxidants happen to correlate with better health, but there are way too many confounding variables to pin the benefits on antioxidants. e. g. Spinach seems to be good for us, but is that because it has antioxidants or because it doesn t have animal fats and does have vegetable fiber?
Date: 2022-01-23
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Imbes
Source? Source? Source? Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't.
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Source? Source? Source? Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't.
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Ahmed
As an Egyptian red tea and coffe are my drinks of choice (I'm actually addicted to caffeine that I can't function without my morning caffeine shoot tea or coffee )
however most Egyptians drink a ton of sugar with tea and coffee. Me, I used to do that in the past (like 8 years ago) but I trained myself to cut sugar out of my drinks and foods bit by bit
mow I drink black coffee and tea with no sugar (actually adding sugar is rebulsive to me know)
I belive every one can do it, it was pretty easy
just do it gradually and on a long period (if you add 2 tea spoons of sugar for example, add one and a half and do it for a few months, then one, then half, and so.
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As an Egyptian red tea and coffe are my drinks of choice (I'm actually addicted to caffeine that I can't function without my morning caffeine shoot tea or coffee )
however most Egyptians drink a ton of sugar with tea and coffee. Me, I used to do that in the past (like 8 years ago) but I trained myself to cut sugar out of my drinks and foods bit by bit
mow I drink black coffee and tea with no sugar (actually adding sugar is rebulsive to me know)
I belive every one can do it, it was pretty easy
just do it gradually and on a long period (if you add 2 tea spoons of sugar for example, add one and a half and do it for a few months, then one, then half, and so.
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food
A few points:
Caffeine itself appears to have anti-inflammatory effects, particularly in neurodegerative diseases, through being a A2a adenosine receptor antagonist. It also appears to be a mild AMPK activator.
Dark roast coffees lose some coffee bean native antioxidants, but gain melanoidins with similar and in some cases more potent effects. There's a good case that darker roasts offer better protection against DNA damage.
French press will mean more of the cholesterol raising diterpenes cafestol and kahweol. Paper filtered coffees remove most of this.
I drink medium and dark caffinated roast, brewed with a Chemex, and black.
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A few points:
Caffeine itself appears to have anti-inflammatory effects, particularly in neurodegerative diseases, through being a A2a adenosine receptor antagonist. It also appears to be a mild AMPK activator.
Dark roast coffees lose some coffee bean native antioxidants, but gain melanoidins with similar and in some cases more potent effects. There's a good case that darker roasts offer better protection against DNA damage.
French press will mean more of the cholesterol raising diterpenes cafestol and kahweol. Paper filtered coffees remove most of this.
I drink medium and dark caffinated roast, brewed with a Chemex, and black.
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Looping
Correlation does not imply causation. There's a correlation between waking up with your shoes on and having a bad hangover, but the shoes ain't causing that hungover of yours. One of the most misunderstood and easily abused statistical terms that one should be very careful about.
Adam, do these researches you mentioned investigate the causation or not? If not, then you're literally making an untrue claim.
A simpler explanation might be that if you cannot afford a couple of coffees per day, you're probably gonna live shorter due to being poor and not you missing out on some of the supposed benefits of drinking coffee.
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Correlation does not imply causation. There's a correlation between waking up with your shoes on and having a bad hangover, but the shoes ain't causing that hungover of yours. One of the most misunderstood and easily abused statistical terms that one should be very careful about.
Adam, do these researches you mentioned investigate the causation or not? If not, then you're literally making an untrue claim.
A simpler explanation might be that if you cannot afford a couple of coffees per day, you're probably gonna live shorter due to being poor and not you missing out on some of the supposed benefits of drinking coffee.
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Some
Hooray. A very short video which was at least 50% ad. And the rest of it could have been stated in less than 2 minutes. And was still just correlation without any explanation of other habits or lifestyle or economics or class or basically anything else. These studies fail to account for a lot of variables, and you really should have mentioned that, but I'm at least glad you did your research, as usual.
I'm glad you pointed out this was an ad right off the bat, but holy crap was it almost nothing more than an ad. Most blatant cash-grab you've done since that highly-questionable vitamin thing.
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Hooray. A very short video which was at least 50% ad. And the rest of it could have been stated in less than 2 minutes. And was still just correlation without any explanation of other habits or lifestyle or economics or class or basically anything else. These studies fail to account for a lot of variables, and you really should have mentioned that, but I'm at least glad you did your research, as usual.
I'm glad you pointed out this was an ad right off the bat, but holy crap was it almost nothing more than an ad. Most blatant cash-grab you've done since that highly-questionable vitamin thing.
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daffyrwt
I genuinely don't understand people's addiction to coffee. I consider myself a casual coffee drinker, over the past year I started drinking coffee more regularly than before and found that I just couldn't handle feeling like my heart is gonna beat right out of my chest. I never considered myself sensitive to caffeine as I drank a lot of pop as a kid and never felt the affects. I did get off of pop bout 12-14 years ago. I understand the utility of drinking coffee to wake you up, but how do people handle the jittery and anxious feeling all the time?
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I genuinely don't understand people's addiction to coffee. I consider myself a casual coffee drinker, over the past year I started drinking coffee more regularly than before and found that I just couldn't handle feeling like my heart is gonna beat right out of my chest. I never considered myself sensitive to caffeine as I drank a lot of pop as a kid and never felt the affects. I did get off of pop bout 12-14 years ago. I understand the utility of drinking coffee to wake you up, but how do people handle the jittery and anxious feeling all the time?
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Spave
It's weird that so many comments are suggesting that the benefits of coffee drinking are more due to socioeconomic status. I doubt anyone who's drinking 6 cups of coffee a day is going to Starbucks 6 times a day. They're probably mostly making their own. And coffee is super cheap when you make it yourself, under 10 cents a cup if you drink cheap crap, and even the fancier coffee in this ad is 30 cents a cup. Lots of places in the world have even cheaper coffee. Sure, not everyone can afford coffee, but it's a pretty low economic barrier.
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It's weird that so many comments are suggesting that the benefits of coffee drinking are more due to socioeconomic status. I doubt anyone who's drinking 6 cups of coffee a day is going to Starbucks 6 times a day. They're probably mostly making their own. And coffee is super cheap when you make it yourself, under 10 cents a cup if you drink cheap crap, and even the fancier coffee in this ad is 30 cents a cup. Lots of places in the world have even cheaper coffee. Sure, not everyone can afford coffee, but it's a pretty low economic barrier.
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J r me
I enjoyed this format, but I was slightly disturbed with it as well. You wiggled around the this is a sponsored video line so frequently that it might have drowned out the facts. You are usually a beacon of sanity and science-backed facts, which you still are, don't get me wrong, but this format somehow felt a little. off? Had it not been you, had it not been about coffee, I probably would've questioned things a lot more.
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I enjoyed this format, but I was slightly disturbed with it as well. You wiggled around the this is a sponsored video line so frequently that it might have drowned out the facts. You are usually a beacon of sanity and science-backed facts, which you still are, don't get me wrong, but this format somehow felt a little. off? Had it not been you, had it not been about coffee, I probably would've questioned things a lot more.
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food
so if one is gonna start drinking more coffee, one should make sure each cup is more expensive, although the studies probably didnt quality control the coffees used. nice ad, but work on the tactics. maybe make the case as an occasional treat or variation to reel people in. people can get satisfied and complacent with trash coffee, so it isn't really a life quality booster in that sense to trade up (with trade.
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so if one is gonna start drinking more coffee, one should make sure each cup is more expensive, although the studies probably didnt quality control the coffees used. nice ad, but work on the tactics. maybe make the case as an occasional treat or variation to reel people in. people can get satisfied and complacent with trash coffee, so it isn't really a life quality booster in that sense to trade up (with trade.
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